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Post Post #1675 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:02 pm

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A no elim plan just seems like a courtesy call tbh

And I’m trying to get flips.
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Post Post #1676 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:03 pm

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Like just take the slot out does the same thing
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Post Post #1677 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:03 pm

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I’m also not risking a kill on me and y’all letting Snivy slip.

So yeah, I’m just staying with my plan because it works, and it fades today.
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Post Post #1678 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:05 pm

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Any No kill play just makes it so that Snivy/Python either can make a kill or no kill play, and we already solved that with the block on Python last night.
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Post Post #1679 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:06 pm

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So 100% not into courtesy call no fade play.

Just fade Snivy and it’s the same thing
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Post Post #1680 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:07 pm

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It’s literally game over.

I just let a game slip by where I solved and people were dumb and didn’t listen until phases after, and whattya know, i was right.

Paranoia shouldn’t exist with this because it’s literally a sure victory.
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Post Post #1681 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:11 pm

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In post 1616, Flavor Leaf wrote: I don't see Drew EVER role copping STD as SK here, over like me.
Why couldn't Drew have Rolecopped STD N1?
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Post Post #1682 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2023 10:04 pm

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In post 1681, usesPython wrote:
In post 1616, Flavor Leaf wrote: I don't see Drew EVER role copping STD as SK here, over like me.
Why couldn't Drew have Rolecopped STD N1?
why would he role cop STD as scum here....over anyone else in this game.

and Drew still loses this game if he's SK, so why does it matter?
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Post Post #1683 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2023 10:04 pm

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sorry i just dont buy he does that as scum here.
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Post Post #1684 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2023 10:05 pm

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and even so, he's caught in my plan if he is scum. we're just talking to talk at this point. there's no wiggle room for any of the 4 with my exact path.
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Post Post #1685 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2023 10:05 pm

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snivy was already scum forfeiting earlier, it's obv. just vote Snivy.
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Post Post #1686 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2023 10:58 pm

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In post 1682, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1681, usesPython wrote:
In post 1616, Flavor Leaf wrote: I don't see Drew EVER role copping STD as SK here, over like me.
Why couldn't Drew have Rolecopped STD N1?
why would he role cop STD as scum here....over anyone else in this game.

and Drew still loses this game if he's SK, so why does it matter?
Why should he be rolecopping someone specific n1, we can easily see it being a random check
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Post Post #1687 (ISO) » Thu Aug 24, 2023 10:59 pm

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And no it's not a mech solve because Drew can roleblock Blue and shoot depending on what Alianna says
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Post Post #1688 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:00 am

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Okay, I think I found a mechanical victory that is 100% guaranteed to work no matter if the SK is roeblocker, strongman, BP etc.
But first let me fully explain how my role works. I am a combined vigilante and loyal bodyguard, meaning my shot gors through whether I target town or scum, but if I target town I die instead of them.

Now here's my plan:

We no lim today, snake blocks Drew, Snivy checks Pytho, and I shoot infinity.

Then based on who dies we have enough clears tomorrow to auto win.

1. If nobody dies - Drew is clear (cause they can't roeblock both me and snake), and based on Snivy's results it's either a 1v1 between snivy and Python (cause infinity can't block me and snivy) or a 1v1 between snivy and infinity (if snivy got a green check).

2. If infinity dies then they were SK and it's a GG.

3. If only I die and Snivy gets a red check, it's a 1v1 between snivy and Python (since infinity couldn't both roleblock me and snivy).

4. If only I die and snivy gets a green check, then we have 3 mech clears (Python, FL, Snek) and then we no lim again and block Drew and Infinity while Snivy checks Drew. If Snivy dies then it's Drew versus Infi with 3 clears, otherwise snivy gets a result and it's a 1v1 between snivy and his guilty / last unchecked person (with his inno being mech cleared leaving 3 mech clears again)

5. If I and one of the conftowns die, then Infinity is clear and depending on Snivy's result it's either a 1v1 with Drew or with Python. This is 3 mech clears vs 2 non cleared which is a win.

6. If I and a PoE player dies then Infinity is clear and we have one less PoE player to worry about and it's so easy that I won't even mention this situation.

7. If one of FL/Snek dies and nobody else then Drew is clear cause they couldn't roleblock me, snivy gets a result and it's again a 1v1 but with 4 clears
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Post Post #1689 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:03 am

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But basically limming a claimed cop is really stupid because the cop solves the game.
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Post Post #1690 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:04 am

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VOTE: No Elimination
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Post Post #1691 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:05 am

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Actually I'll let people ask questions and clarifications, but this is a mathematically guaranteed win.
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Post Post #1692 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:05 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1693 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:38 am

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In post 1688, DragonEater70 wrote: 1. If nobody dies - Drew is clear (cause they can't roeblock both me and snake)
Drew can Roleblock Blue and Doctor DE, You shoot Infinity and BG them but dont die because of the heal
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Post Post #1694 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:44 am

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I checked with mod, doctor can't heal me
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Post Post #1695 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:45 am

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@Mod - would doctoring a bodyguard's target prevent the bodyguard from activating?
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Post Post #1696 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:45 am

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I think the answer is no from how the mod answered so far but we'll see
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Post Post #1697 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:59 am

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In post 1696, DragonEater70 wrote: I think the answer is no from how the mod answered so far but we'll see
From the wiki:
A Bodyguard is a role who can target a player at Night to protect them. However, if the protected player is supposed to be killed, the Bodyguard is killed instead ("taking the bullet" for them, as it were).
Drew could Doctor Infinity to force a no-death
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Post Post #1698 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 2:20 am

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If it works, it works. Idk why it matters personally
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Post Post #1699 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 2:22 am

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Like i do not care.

No elim just slows the game down and trying to kill as little people as possible.

If Snivy is scum, they lie about it, and it takes just as much time to get there with no elim

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