Open 880 - Normal Idea Mafia - Postgame

[camelCasedSnivy]

last pagetop?

[Flavor Leaf]

One thing that could mess things up is a BlueSnake flake and no action on DrewSK tbh

Well lucky for us there is no DrewSK.

You get my reasoning for why I don’t think DrewSK rolecops STD here? Like imo, it just doesn’t feel that impactful.

Nothing against STD, but really just not worth it.

+ your guilty wasnt even strong enough to conftown you, so it just objectively didn’t make sense for you to be scum here.

I’ve always thought it was one of the other three, and they get taken care of by end of Day 5.

[camelCasedSnivy]

well you were pretty confident it was me to the point of you saying

you did well Snivy. I think scum dying so fast screwed you here.

i could also tell you were hiding behind Python and I yesterday, and with your Day 1 and Day 2 also having scumminess to it.

so not sure if the reads this game are that on par

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s more of a means to an end with you.

I was right with Uno and Bianco very early, and I even successfully felt STD was town after initially thinking they were scum before giving in there.

Right now, I’m leaning it’s Infinity, but idk. I kinda shut my mind off with it since my setup doesn’t require me to know it, just requires the net not having holes in it.

[Doctor Drew]

One thing that could mess things up is a BlueSnake flake and no action on DrewSK tbh

Well lucky for us there is no DrewSK.

You get my reasoning for why I don’t think DrewSK rolecops STD here? Like imo, it just doesn’t feel that impactful.

Nothing against STD, but really just not worth it.

+ your guilty wasnt even strong enough to conftown you, so it just objectively didn’t make sense for you to be scum here.

I’ve always thought it was one of the other three, and they get taken care of by end of Day 5.

If I was gonna fakeclaim and wanted to get someone limmed, it probably would have been tailored to making python look bad. And even if it was on std, like you said I would have found something to conf town myself in the process.

I don't fuck around on my fake claims lol.

Pre Edit: Infinity is my gut 'this is the person that's gonna fuck us aren't they' read tbh

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m leaning Infinity too, and probably could have faded them today, but Dragon Eater seems like they wanted to shoot there, so didn’t think about the possibility of fading Infinity shooting Python (testing a BP + possibility Python already got shot)

Idk.

Always fade Python tomorrow, we double block if games not over

[DragonEater70]

Just noting that if I die and infinity doesn't, infinity could still be a BP SK so needs to be killed at some point.

Now I'm going back to sleep since I didn't sleep enough and it's Saturday so I get to sleep more.

[Alianna]

I am aware that there have been some questions directed at me. I will not be able to get to them tonight, but will post the flip now and go through the thread to answer those questions tomorrow. Apologies for any inconvenience.

[Alianna]

BlueSnakelet is being prodded and must respond to the nightstart PM within 24 hours. The deadline will freeze at 24 hours if a replacement is needed.

[Alianna]

4.FINAL

Votecount 4.FINAL

camelCasedSnivy (EXECUTED): Doctor Drew, Flavor Leaf, camelCasedSnivy, usesPython
usesPython (1): Infinity 324, usesPython

Not Voting (2): BlueSnakelet, DragonEater70

With 7 players alive, it took 4 votes to secure an execution.

[Alianna]

camelCasedSnivy has been executed. He was a

Town Loyal Checker

.

Spoiler: Role PM

camelCasedSnivy

Welcome, camelCasedSnivy, to Open 880!

You are a

Town Loyal Checker

.

Personal Abilities:

Loyal Checker - Each night, you may target another player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will be informed that your action succeeded. Your action will be treated as roleblocked if your target does not belong to the same faction as you.

Factional Abilities:

You have no factional abilities.

Win Condition:

You win if all players not aligned with the town are dead and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Please confirm by replying with the name of your role.

It is now Night 4. The night deadline is in (expired on 2023-08-28 03:49:36).

The night can end early if all living players request it.

[Alianna]

What happens if you roleblock the person roleblocking you? Do both players end up roleblocked, under Normal rules?

@Alianna?

Normal rules (or rather, NAR) don't have one clear way to resolve this situation and it is somewhat left up to mod discretion. I would resolve this so that the roleblocks mutually fail, and in situations like the below where one or both roleblockers have access to other actions, said actions go through.

What happens if you roleblock the person roleblocking you? Do both players end up roleblocked, under Normal rules?

@Alianna?

More specifically: If

Multitasking Serial Killer Doctor Rolecop Roleblocker

and

Town Combined Roleblocker Friendly Neighbor

roleblocked each other and the SK shot someone else, would the kill go off?

Yes.

@Mod - would doctoring a bodyguard's target prevent the bodyguard from activating?

I think the answer is no from how the mod answered so far but we'll see

From the wiki:

A Bodyguard is a role who can target a player at Night to protect them. However, if the protected player is supposed to be killed, the Bodyguard is killed instead ("taking the bullet" for them, as it were).

Drew could Doctor Infinity to force a no-death

Python's answer is correct, the doctor could prevent the BG activating in that situation. I realize my previous answer might have been a bit misleading, I thought you were referring only to a case where the other protective role targets the dying BG.

[Alianna]

BlueSnakelet has not picked up his prod and is being replaced.

The night deadline is being reset to 24 hours and is frozen until a replacement is found.

[Alianna]

Yimmy replaces BlueSnakelet.

The night deadline has been unfrozen. The new deadline is in (expired on 2023-08-29 00:57:29).

[Alianna]

DragonEater70 has been killed. He was a

Town Combined Vigilante Loyal Bodyguard

.

Spoiler: Role PM

DragonEater70

Welcome, DragonEater70, to Open 880!

You are a

Town Combined Vigilante Loyal Bodyguard

.

Personal Abilities:

Combined - You perform both of your night actions on a single target.
Vigilante - Each night, you may target another player. Assuming no interference with your action, your target will die.
Loyal Bodyguard - If your target belongs to the same faction as you, they will also be protected from one kill that night (including your vigilante shot) and you will be killed in their place. The bodyguard component of your role will be treated as roleblocked if your target does not belong to the same faction as you.

Factional Abilities:

You have no factional abilities.

Win Condition:

You win if all players not aligned with the town are dead and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Please confirm by replying with the name of your role.

Yimmy has been killed. They were a

Town Combined Roleblocker Friendly Neighbour

.

Spoiler: Role PM

Yimmy

Welcome, Yimmy, to Open 880!

You are a

Town Combined Roleblocker Friendly Neighbour

.

Personal Abilities:

Combined - You perform both of your night actions on a single target.
Roleblocker - Each night, you may target another player. Assuming no interference with your action, your target's active abilities will be blocked that night.
Friendly Neighbour - Your target will also receive a message from the moderator that states you are town-aligned. It will be made explicit that the information comes from a friendly neighbour role.

Factional Abilities:

You have no factional abilities.

Win Condition:

You win if all players not aligned with the town are dead and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Please confirm by replying with the name of your role.

It is now Day 5.

[Alianna]

5.00

Votecount 5.00

Not Voting (4): Doctor Drew, Flavor Leaf, usesPython, Infinity 324

With 4 players alive, it takes 3 votes to secure an execution or 2 votes to secure a no-execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-09-08 01:03:38).

[Flavor Leaf]

Neat

[Flavor Leaf]

How does 2 deaths happen?

[Flavor Leaf]

Here’s the thing—

I’m probably not voting Drew here.

I do believe it is in one of Python or Infinity.

I will spend some time on this tomorrow.

We have a ‘chance’ at getting through a misfade, but I will be shooting to win.

I don’t get how 2 kills went through, but I guess we talk about possibilities of that.

I am hoping Yimmy roleblocked Drew. Based on the last game I played with them, I feel that they would have done so and followed the plan had they seen.

Uhm…yeah

[Flavor Leaf]

Even-Night Compulsive Babysitter Odd-Night Jailkeeper Serial Killer [M]

I think…this is probably the role?

Dragon shoots Infinity, Infinity Babysits Yimmy, Infinity kills Dragon?

[Flavor Leaf]

Frankly, I will be playing like none of the players went rogue with the plan.

Drew is cleared from Roleblock.


Drew, confirm if you received the notification that Yimmy is town.

[usesPython]

Even-Night Compulsive Babysitter Odd-Night Jailkeeper Serial Killer [M]

I think…this is probably the role?

Dragon shoots Infinity, Infinity Babysits Yimmy, Infinity kills Dragon?

Multitasking Serial Killer Doctor Rolecop Roleblocker

Drew confirming the rb doesn't mean anything because he'll just lie. Assuming DE stuck with the plan what happened was that DE suicided by targetting Infinity and Drew roleblocked Yimmy and shot Yimmy.

VOTE: Drew

FL why are you still alive?

[Flavor Leaf]

oh thats right. hmm

[Flavor Leaf]

why wouldnt it be Python doing that, though?

[usesPython]

Like we don't decide to shoot the new person and go into an endgame where Infinity thinks we're BP SK by play and FL thinks Drew can't be the SK Roleblocker when shooting FL still forces a Drew/Python 1v1