Open 882: Over-Easy Mafia [Game Over]

[Doctor Drew]

Aureal I think RCE and Klazam are basically the same player this game. I find it difficult to see them paired together.

I just finished reading up, and kinda see what you mean about them being the same person.

I don't think this makes it

that

unlikely for them to be scum together. The RCE post I quoted earlier sounds like an acknowledgement of them being linked, like he wanted to get out ahead of anyone potentially accusing them of being partnered. So after that point they may as well play openly working together.

Though honestly with the way Drew is being here he's just increasing his partner equity with Klazam. But shhhhhhh that's not what I'm focusing on here!

No no, please expand on that if you want.

[Aureal]

OK, you start by expanding on what you have a problem with in my entrance. I left you a big prompt to explain what you apparently think I

should

be doing instead but you didn't.

For that matter, what exactly did you mean by the "town tend to give slots like that a long rope" line? I think I might have misinterpreted what you were saying there.

[T-Bone]

The secret sauce is that Drew has partner equity with everyone including Garlic Bread no explanation needed.

[Doctor Drew]

OK, you start by expanding on what you have a problem with in my entrance. I left you a big prompt to explain what you apparently think I

should

be doing instead but you didn't.

For that matter, what exactly did you mean by the "town tend to give slots like that a long rope" line? I think I might have misinterpreted what you were saying there.

Town tends to gives a long rope to a repp on a scum read slot, thought that was clear.

You do what you you want, I said how I felt. Why would I tell you what to do, and why is that an issue to you?

[Aureal]

The secret sauce is that Drew has partner equity with everyone including Garlic Bread no explanation needed.

Oh man, good point, I think Garlic Bread knows all our alignments.

OK, you start by expanding on what you have a problem with in my entrance. I left you a big prompt to explain what you apparently think I

should

be doing instead but you didn't.

For that matter, what exactly did you mean by the "town tend to give slots like that a long rope" line? I think I might have misinterpreted what you were saying there.

Town tends to gives a long rope to a repp on a scum read slot, thought that was clear.

So you do mean giving my slot a long rope, then. That's what I eventually figured, but I was reading it at first as saying that as town I should be giving the slot I'm pushing a long rope.

You do what you you want, I said how I felt. Why would I tell you what to do, and why is that an issue to you?

Why would you tell me what to do? Because I asked you to tell me what you think I should do given those circumstances?
And why is that an issue? Because:
1) You seem to have a problem with what I'm doing but I do not understand why, because I do not understand what you think a less problematic approach would be
2) You seem to be trying to discredit my push by shading me for ???? reasons rather than engaging with the substance of my arguments

[Alianna]

UNVOTE:

Feeling a bit meh about the Bone wagon.

[Alianna]

\And the pushback on Merlyn's lack of vote likewise is not towny at all, in contrast to RCE's attempt to portray it as such. It comes off as an attempt to

look

unconcerned with the votes on him, but why should Klazam be so focused on a lack of voting him when there was already a large wagon on him? "Why

aren't

people voting me?" doesn't seem like the line of thought a townie is likely to have here, it seems like a way to discredit someone else and look like you're selflessly scum hunting. Merlyn hadn't expressed nearly enough suspicion to warrant such an early hammer; if she'd voted in the post he took issue with that would've been e-1 and shortly thereafter a hammer. See my sig for supporting material on the concept of people not wanting wagons hammered early.

I'll get caught up on the most recent pages later.

I liked that post from Klazam when I first read it but somehow did not realize he was at E-1 when he said that. That...probably changes some things.

[Flower]

T-Bone do you think Drew is town in a world where both of us are town?

Memes about hero solves aside my reads on players are mostly independent of one another with some caveats. I'm not preflipping anyone. Drew being town or not doesn't have anything to do with your alignment or vise versa, that's not how town reads work. You're only linked if one of you flips scum.

I'm asking cause the Drew/T-Bone fight isn't giving us TvT vibes but if you're willing to vouch for him we're fine with just townbinning him

[Flower]

I feel like we're doing too many partner solves, should probably just flip the scummiest and go from there

[Flower]

Drew's been consistently making a lot of sense this game, I'm not used to this

I'm gonna assume that this means you think Drew's post there made sense. Because it didn't, and that's been how you've acted this whole game.

Like really, what is this thought process of Drew's? Player replaces into game, sees their slot and another are the top wagons, reads some of game and comes up with different scumreads and figures the other wagon is town and so... A townie does what, exactly, here? Sit down to enjoy some tea and crumpets?

I don't think you're doing anything scummy it's just that Merlyn was pretty scummy and the instinct is to just give that a pass cause of the rep in

[Flower]

We're fine sheeping Alianna inside Klazam/Aureal/T-Bone rn

[Flower]

UNVOTE:

[RCEnigma]

I feel like we're doing too many partner solves, should probably just flip the scummiest and go from there

+1

[RCEnigma]

Aureal I feel like you are setting me up here to take the fall regardless of klazams alignment and I’m not gonna lie, it’s not my jam.

[RCEnigma]

Also the more partner equity I accrue with klazam is just going to make me double down on hard reading klazam as town.

[RCEnigma]

Ahhh well actually idk because I could be town reading scum!klazam and their partner pushes the partner angle to make me a mislim the moment klazam flips.

[RCEnigma]

Not pinning you specifically as scum in both scenarios. I think the latter probably makes you town given the klazam vote.

[T-Bone]

T-Bone do you think Drew is town in a world where both of us are town?

Memes about hero solves aside my reads on players are mostly independent of one another with some caveats. I'm not preflipping anyone. Drew being town or not doesn't have anything to do with your alignment or vise versa, that's not how town reads work. You're only linked if one of you flips scum.

I'm asking cause the Drew/T-Bone fight isn't giving us TvT vibes but if you're willing to vouch for him we're fine with just townbinning him

This feels like a question for someone else since you're voting for me. What?

[Flower]

T-Bone do you think Drew is town in a world where both of us are town?

Memes about hero solves aside my reads on players are mostly independent of one another with some caveats. I'm not preflipping anyone. Drew being town or not doesn't have anything to do with your alignment or vise versa, that's not how town reads work. You're only linked if one of you flips scum.

I'm asking cause the Drew/T-Bone fight isn't giving us TvT vibes but if you're willing to vouch for him we're fine with just townbinning him

This feels like a question for someone else since you're voting for me. What?

If you're town and you think the Drew fight is TvT we're fine with sheeping your Drew read

If you're scum then solving the Drew fight as SvT is good enough for us and we can worry about it later if we're both still alive by endgame

[Garlic Bread Society]

VC 1.05

T-Bone (2):

Doctor Drew, Save The Dragons

Aureal (2):

yessiree, Klazam

Flower (1):

T-Bone

Klazam (1):

Aureal

Not Voting (3):

Alianna, RCEnigma, Flower

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to hit someone with the beam.
There are (expired on 2023-09-15 22:57:07) left in the deadline.

Remember this game is Geriatric. You have 20 posts per 24 hours before you start draining your coffers.

[Save The Dragons]

noo the bone wagon is dissolving

[Save The Dragons]

and i don't really have anyone else i want to vote for so i guess i'll stay

[T-Bone]

Shame!

[Aureal]

Drew's been consistently making a lot of sense this game, I'm not used to this

I'm gonna assume that this means you think Drew's post there made sense. Because it didn't, and that's been how you've acted this whole game.

Like really, what is this thought process of Drew's? Player replaces into game, sees their slot and another are the top wagons, reads some of game and comes up with different scumreads and figures the other wagon is town and so... A townie does what, exactly, here? Sit down to enjoy some tea and crumpets?

I don't think you're doing anything scummy it's just that Merlyn was pretty scummy and the instinct is to just give that a pass cause of the rep in

I didn't ask anyone for a pass. And Drew just said he wasn't scumreading Merlyn. So why's he suddenly concerned that other people might?

As far as your read on Merlyn goes, try imagining her posts coming from Black- does that change how you think of them? Having recently finally seen a whole town game from Merlyn, I think they have some commonalities; and after reading five pages of this game I had a read on her alignment and was not at all surprised to receive a town PM.

[Aureal]

Aureal I feel like you are setting me up here to take the fall regardless of klazams alignment and I’m not gonna lie, it’s not my jam.

How's that? If Klazam flipped town, obviously you're not scum partners. You could be scum white knighting a distressed townie I guess, but I don't see that I've said anything to that effect before this.

Great, now your preemptive defensiveness is making me consider that possibility. Thanks. :/