In post 59, OopsieDaisy wrote:
Hmm maybe I do need to look at the people voting me more closely then.
idk is mr k being the third vote on you rather than the second really that different?
No it's not, I just thought Dunn was scummier for the omission of a vote/push at the time because I didn't realise I was already at E-2. With that reasoning out of the way, and with me still wanting to look at the people vocally pushing me right now, I was left with Mr. K and you to look at.
For the time being I feel fine keeping my vote on Daisy. Her case against me feels sort of made up. I mean her own version of the event chain was that Infinity voices an actual reason to vote her, and I jump on it. While I agree, that a scum would certainly welcome this sort of an easy chance to slip in an additional vote, what should a townie do if they agree with Infinity's thoughts (the thoughts that Daisy seemed to agree made sense)? Not vote her and rather keep the random vote? This doesn't really add up to me.
Cook's town read on KittyTacky feels off to me, unless it's somehow based on their previous games. I don't see anything at all that Kitty's done that would warrant a town read specifically, even if it's a light one.
In post 59, OopsieDaisy wrote:
Purplemango - Anyone you like/dislike in the game so far now that we're moving into some more alignment-indicative stuff?
1. It makes sense to me that you're a town, but the "its why people suspect me in other games" was kinda weird to me
i don't know the way of playing of any of you so its not really based on anything, i'll try later To look more carefully at things written so that I have something to base suspects on
2. What 'townspew' means?
1) What's weird about me recognising that the reasons players are suspecting me this game are similar to those that have come from townier sources in other games?
2) Townspewing is basically when someone goes on some sort of ramble/shows a natural train of thought that to certain players clearly show that player is town. At least, I think this is something close to the definition? Couldn't find anything about it on the wiki w/ a quick search.
I'm not sure, when suspicions are raised about you and then being like "They said this about me before and it wasn't true then, so it's not true now either" doesn't sit well with me, But not to the extent that I will vote for you or suspect you, so it's a bit annoying for me (from the point of view of having no one to vote for, not against you)
In post 63, KittyTacky wrote:
Like would I just say "huh I guess we played before"? Dann, honest question, what would you expect such a response to look like?
In post 77, Mr.K wrote:
For the time being I feel fine keeping my vote on Daisy. Her case against me feels sort of made up. I mean her own version of the event chain was that Infinity voices an actual reason to vote her, and I jump on it. While I agree, that a scum would certainly welcome this sort of an easy chance to slip in an additional vote, what should a townie do if they agree with Infinity's thoughts (the thoughts that Daisy seemed to agree made sense)? Not vote her and rather keep the random vote? This doesn't really add up to me.
Cook's town read on KittyTacky feels off to me, unless it's somehow based on their previous games. I don't see anything at all that Kitty's done that would warrant a town read specifically, even if it's a light one.
how would you expect Daisy to distinguish between you hopping onto her wagon as scum versus as town?
like you self admit that the circumstances would be welcome for scum, why is Daisy supposed to give you the benefit of the doubt here?
In post 63, KittyTacky wrote:
Like would I just say "huh I guess we played before"? Dann, honest question, what would you expect such a response to look like?
In post 81, Dannflor wrote:
how would you expect Daisy to distinguish between you hopping onto her wagon as scum versus as town?
like you self admit that the circumstances would be welcome for scum, why is Daisy supposed to give you the benefit of the doubt here?
I see it the other way around. There's a justifiable (in her eyes, based on her reaction) accusation made towards her. Another person agrees with that accusation. How does that make him scum? If we agree that the vote could be viable for both scum and townie, and we know there's more townies than scum in the game, I don't see it as giving me the benefit of a doubt if she's town - especially when she wasn't under the hammer or anything. I'd see it as town making an educated decision that they'll probably change when they realize she's probably town.
In post 83, Dannflor wrote:
and i kind of have a theory that the fact that pretty much everyone else just ignored my post about kitty points towards kitty being town
something about how I lead with pretty weak reasoning and I thought scum would be very hesitant to sheep that but also wouldn't want to challenge it either because a townie scum reading another townie confidently is always good yeah?
I do seriously scum read Gamma Emerald because it doesn't seem like he actually cares about sorting purplemango's alignment, he parked a vote there and even though purplemango has posted since there's not really any further attempt to engage with him. it feels like gamma parked a vote there because it seemed like a target no one would question a vote on.
i think 65 is weirdly shallow for Gamma and I think it's rather common habit for scum to throw out a weak town read on big early wagons on town
69 is a post I myself make as scum a lot where I point out objective inconsistencies even though they don't really have a bearing on alignment. It just looks good and is easy to do.
I'll admit most of this stuff is on the weaker side but so far gamma has given me the biggest impression of trying to look town without actually being towny
In post 88, Dannflor wrote:
I do seriously scum read Gamma Emerald because it doesn't seem like she actually cares about sorting purplemango's alignment, she parked a vote there and even though purplemango has posted since there's not really any further attempt to engage with him. it feels like gamma parked a vote there because it seemed like a target no one would question a vote on.
i think 65 is weirdly shallow for Gamma and I think it's rather common habit for scum to throw out a weak town read on big early wagons on town
69 is a post I myself make as scum a lot where I point out objective inconsistencies even though they don't really have a bearing on alignment. It just looks good and is easy to do.
I'll admit most of this stuff is on the weaker side but so far gamma has given me the biggest impression of trying to look town without actually being towny
I think you're reading a bit much into 65/69
Of course my reads are gonna be shallow, there's very little to go on, and even when there is I tend to have a handful of reads that are shallow still
and I wasn't just pointing out an inconsistency, I was asking about it. There's a difference.
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something about how I lead with pretty weak reasoning and I thought scum would be very hesitant to sheep that but also wouldn't want to challenge it either because a townie scum reading another townie confidently is always good yeah?
In post 90, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I think you're reading a bit much into 65/69
Of course my reads are gonna be shallow, there's very little to go on, and even when there is I tend to have a handful of reads that are shallow still
and I wasn't just pointing out an inconsistency, I was asking about it. There's a difference.
maybe!
ig also im a little surprised you didn't try to engage more with oopsie or the people scum reading her if you were finding yourself town reading her
In post 81, Dannflor wrote:
how would you expect Daisy to distinguish between you hopping onto her wagon as scum versus as town?
like you self admit that the circumstances would be welcome for scum, why is Daisy supposed to give you the benefit of the doubt here?
I see it the other way around. There's a justifiable (in her eyes, based on her reaction) accusation made towards her. Another person agrees with that accusation. How does that make him scum? If we agree that the vote could be viable for both scum and townie, and we know there's more townies than scum in the game, I don't see it as giving me the benefit of a doubt if she's town - especially when she wasn't under the hammer or anything. I'd see it as town making an educated decision that they'll probably change when they realize she's probably town.
I wanted to vote within the people pushing me (at the time that was Kitty, Dunn, Infinity & You) since with little to go on, looking at the people pushing you is a good start. Originally I was gunning for Dunn since I struggling to follow his thought process with the lack of vote, but then after the explanation from him that was cleared up and I felt better about the slot. Kitty's vote on me wasn't much of a worry so I didn't feel the need to pressure there. That left Infinity and you, so whilst I do agree that the observation itself I think is fairly townie, the fact remains Infinity was the one who made that observation and you just followed/sheeped it, hence I think you're scummier than Infinity and so I'm voting you.
When i open this game, and starting read, i immediatly close it because i starting strongly consider self last townie alive and others are just jesters.
When i open this game, and starting read, i immediatly close it because i starting strongly consider self last townie alive and others are just jesters.
In post 63, KittyTacky wrote:
Like would I just say "huh I guess we played before"? Dann, honest question, what would you expect such a response to look like?
When i open this game, and starting read, i immediatly close it because i starting strongly consider self last townie alive and others are just jesters.
When i open this game, and starting read, i immediatly close it because i starting strongly consider self last townie alive and others are just jesters.
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