In post 21, Aureal wrote:
No! How else am I supposed to pocket you!
you should know by now you don't need to try. I exist to be in your pocket. kinda like a baby kangaroo. it's my happy place
Generic trying to read and solve already is probably a good sign?
I dont count that as solving. I have a positive opinion of two people, ironically the only two known female players to me, so maybe im just being chivalrous?
cool, here we have our first townslip! (probably!)
I'd imagine that scum would have a quick discussion about the setup and the mech in the scum PT after they receive their role PM's. That usually happens in newbie games at least.
Nope, I’m afraid to burst the bubble but that was me attempting sarcasm… through text… like a moron.
Don’t town clear me off the lamest of attempts at humour please.
In post 129, Dannflor wrote:
[T3, CCGeek]
[Generic]
[CCS, Aureal, Dunnstral] - null
[iamveryhappy]
[Black]
I think this is about where I'm at
iamveryhappy I just didn't really like how they randomly popped in to be like "I don't like E-2s"
Wow I’m high up that list.
Are you feeling okay?
"In mafia, I've learned to always be wary of yes men. It's also a good idea to always be wary of Generic, because you never know what he's going to try to do."
In post 201, Black wrote:
my natural reaction is to get defensive when someone is wrong about me. that's just how my brain works. i realize that may seem scummy but it's something i do naturally regardless of alignment
what are your thoughts on Generic? and can you elaborate on 158?
The OMGUS certainly puts you in an even worse light that’s for sure.
But I’m more than happy to thunderdome day 1.
there's a dissonance here. the evolution from "ill reevaluate" to "let's thunderdome!" is jarring. using OMGUS as the excuse doesn't make sense to me since townies use OMGUS all the time
Generic wrote:I’m afraid you are so wrong it’s tragic.
there's dissonance here too. Generic is trying to convince me i'm wrong about him even though he's convinced i'm scum
Since I have no idea who the mafia players are why would I be certain to the point I wouldn’t speak to you as a neutral until you flip?
And also I’m not sure you realise this but other people are reading the game too. I know right? Spooky stuff. So comments I make when talking to you might also be providing others with how poor your claimed reading of me is. Because if you are town you’re now in confbias where everything I post you will twist to a scum logic you arre inventing. Well it had to be invention because otherwise you are going to be one of those players who after being shown up as completely wrong will just go ‘not my fault, they played to the scum meta i rigidly stick to because I have no other way of reading the player’. I assume with your record you aren’t that 1 dimensional.
And yeah I just took a gamble and popcorn arrived! :cheers:
"In mafia, I've learned to always be wary of yes men. It's also a good idea to always be wary of Generic, because you never know what he's going to try to do."
In post 228, Generic wrote:
Since I have no idea who the mafia players are why would I be certain to the point I wouldn’t speak to you as a neutral until you flip?
In post 149, Generic wrote:
Just so everyone knows, I refuse to townread black for the rest of the game. Short of a mod clear or a cop check I will be assuming she is mafia. And is currently where my vote will be going.
When I flip town, what’s your gambit to save yourself from the chop day 2? Because clinging to ‘FAKE READS FAKE READS’ isn’t going to wash when it’s proven nonsense.
"In mafia, I've learned to always be wary of yes men. It's also a good idea to always be wary of Generic, because you never know what he's going to try to do."
I’m sure it’s very disappointing to have an ego over your mafia game after some wins, only for you to be found out on day 1 this time. I remember when I was younger and took these games so seriously. My record was 12 mafia wins in 13, and that was across just 20 or so games. Not an easy thing to win at when you start to be noticed as always randing mafia… let alone the number of times I had to endgame for the team.
One thing you can do for me black. Bookmark this one for your future meta opinions of me. I flip flop and free think when town. Especially without a PR. Because I’ve got nothing to lose. It’s the main reason I don’t get day 1 nuked. And night 1 nuked a lot of the time.
And if I have to lay this game down to make that statement to this new generation of MSers then I’m comfortable with that. It will be a learngin curve for you cool kids.
"In mafia, I've learned to always be wary of yes men. It's also a good idea to always be wary of Generic, because you never know what he's going to try to do."
Oh look, every post is scummy, whatever will you have to say for yourself when I flip…
"In mafia, I've learned to always be wary of yes men. It's also a good idea to always be wary of Generic, because you never know what he's going to try to do."
In post 201, Black wrote:
my natural reaction is to get defensive when someone is wrong about me. that's just how my brain works. i realize that may seem scummy but it's something i do naturally regardless of alignment
what are your thoughts on Generic? and can you elaborate on 158?
I doubt generic is scum. His posting feels very very natural.
As for 158 your read there just didn’t seem real. I think town!you would have more self-doubt in that scenario.
In post 213, Black wrote:
my gut townread of T3 has faded a bit. i can see him being a Generic partner after his last two posts were basically run in, shade me, run out
You’re right - my attention has been divided today so I haven’t been reading as in-depth as I’d like to be.
I never bluff on intent. I had my suspicions in black and even said I would vote them. They chose to OMGUS so the thunderdome seemed a great place to head to, I love a thunderdome because it stops the scum from hiding from the limelight and stops their buddies trying to undermine the push.
People have to commit. And also another point. Why would I claim vanilla town? A very sacrificial role on day 1. There’s no wifom to be had. I would rather be flipped than spend several day phases having to go through the same arguments. So if I’m seriously a major suspect here is the opportunity.
Otherwise I want to flip black and feel smug about my early call on her or eat humble pie if I fucked up her intent since I called suspicion on her. Either way the popcorn is out
"In mafia, I've learned to always be wary of yes men. It's also a good idea to always be wary of Generic, because you never know what he's going to try to do."
Thunderdomes are pretty awful for the town. if you really are town here then the wolves are having a great time laughing about this in the PT. you won't be able to weasel your way out of getting faded D2 and town will already be down 3 members assuming the NK goes through
Actually, if you are of the belief black is town (and my confbias from my little verbal duel with her has left me blinkered) you need to flip me today.
Seriously, think about it. You keep black alive and if she is town you have a strong player alive and she will cope with the day 2 backlash. If mafia they will have to cope with a tough day 2 anyway with my flip so the scrutiny makes her life harder to manipulate the game.
Because unless she is mafia I will be used as the weapon by the wolves to get a 2nd town yeet. They will keep me alive because it leaves me looking suspicious and they don’t hit a PR with me. The water is muddied.
So unless you are absolutely sure black is your prime suspect you need to flip me. And then remember to use some wagonomics.
"In mafia, I've learned to always be wary of yes men. It's also a good idea to always be wary of Generic, because you never know what he's going to try to do."
In post 239, Black wrote:
Thunderdomes are pretty awful for the town. if you really are town here then the wolves are having a great time laughing about this in the PT. you won't be able to weasel your way out of getting faded D2 and town will already be down 3 members assuming the NK goes through
You came after me. You were certain I was a Wolf. You accused my lack of certainty over your alignment as further proof.
So what is this now? Sounds like a lack of certainty black.
Don’t be a hypocrite when you have spent the entire push on me point to inconsistency as my main scum tell this game.
"In mafia, I've learned to always be wary of yes men. It's also a good idea to always be wary of Generic, because you never know what he's going to try to do."
Every single post I’ve made you have created some weird logic for why it proves I’m scum. And you want to claim I’m misrepping your certainty?
"In mafia, I've learned to always be wary of yes men. It's also a good idea to always be wary of Generic, because you never know what he's going to try to do."
In post 202, Generic wrote:
The OMGUS certainly puts you in an even worse light that’s for sure
i disagree. OMGUS isn't inherently scummy. i think you know that though and are just grasping at straws to try and make me look worse
In post 202, Generic wrote:
But I’m more than happy to thunderdome day 1.
this is something i suggest when i'm scum to make me look townier XD
In post 206, Black wrote:
so you were cool with being patient and letting the day play out until i pushed you, now suddenly you call for thunderdome and are rallying everyone to vote?
yeah, Generic is probably just scum here. i'm fine going first though. i'm at e-1 anyway
In post 208, Black wrote:
wow, i'm right about the thunderdome tactic aren't i? that's twice now you brought up 203. what's funny is i wasn't even reading you there, i was laughing at the irony that a potential wolf is using one of my wolf tactics. that comment led you to call me an amateur and say that I "shit my pants". i guess i would be triggered too if someone sniffed my plan out as i was proposing it
In post 213, Black wrote:
my gut townread of T3 has faded a bit. i can see him being a Generic partner after his last two posts were basically run in, shade me, run out
In post 201, Black wrote:
my natural reaction is to get defensive when someone is wrong about me. that's just how my brain works. i realize that may seem scummy but it's something i do naturally regardless of alignment
what are your thoughts on Generic? and can you elaborate on 158?
The OMGUS certainly puts you in an even worse light that’s for sure.
But I’m more than happy to thunderdome day 1.
there's a dissonance here. the evolution from "ill reevaluate" to "let's thunderdome!" is jarring. using OMGUS as the excuse doesn't make sense to me since townies use OMGUS all the time
Generic wrote:I’m afraid you are so wrong it’s tragic.
there's dissonance here too. Generic is trying to convince me i'm wrong about him even though he's convinced i'm scum
In post 230, Black wrote:
you can't keep your fake reads organized
In post 233, Black wrote:
you knew 231 was scummy so you had to follow up with a condescending 232 to correct your tone lol
Yeah, these all read with so much doubt don’t they.
"In mafia, I've learned to always be wary of yes men. It's also a good idea to always be wary of Generic, because you never know what he's going to try to do."
i'm pointing out the possible scum perspective behind some of the things you are doing. that's one of the fundamental concepts of Mafia, and people don't generally get accused of misrepping if they are wrong about someone's alignment
what you just did was blatantly misrepresent my stance on your alignment. maybe this wasn't intentional, but you have a belief in your head that i've been certain you're scum when my words say otherwise
Not to me they don’t. And I would argue what you are doing here is twisting the narrative. Because you spent all this time going ‘see, he’s scum’ and when you read something that to you looked like I was trying to convince you I was town you went ‘look, not certain of his read’.
Make your mind up. Are you convinced I’m scum or not? Because I’ve already said the logical play here is to flip me.
Win win for me. If you are mafia I read you perfectly day 1. If you are town I get to educate you in this actually being town generic. And town more importantly don’t lose a PR. Because you are clearly a veteran of the game. If uou were a or you wouldn’t even hint at it until it was absolutely necessary. But I’m a safe bet.
So. Your move. White always goes first, now it’s blacks turn.
"In mafia, I've learned to always be wary of yes men. It's also a good idea to always be wary of Generic, because you never know what he's going to try to do."
In post 202, Generic wrote:
The OMGUS certainly puts you in an even worse light that’s for sure
i disagree. OMGUS isn't inherently scummy. i
think
you know that though and are just grasping at straws to try and make me look worse
In post 202, Generic wrote:
But I’m more than happy to thunderdome day 1.
this is something i suggest when i'm scum to make me look townier XD
In post 206, Black wrote:
so you were cool with being patient and letting the day play out until i pushed you, now suddenly you call for thunderdome and are rallying everyone to vote?
yeah, Generic is
probably
just scum here. i'm fine going first though. i'm at e-1 anyway
In post 208, Black wrote:
wow, i'm right about the thunderdome tactic
aren't i
? that's twice now you brought up 203. what's funny is i wasn't even reading you there, i was laughing at the irony that a potential wolf is using one of my wolf tactics. that comment led you to call me an amateur and say that I "shit my pants". i guess i would be triggered too if someone sniffed my plan out as i was proposing it
In post 213, Black wrote:
my gut townread of T3 has faded a bit.
i can see him being
a Generic partner after his last two posts were basically run in, shade me, run out
these all indicate i'm not sure here, but i'm sure you'll find some way to argue that they don't XD
In post 246, Generic wrote:
Make your mind up. Are you convinced I’m scum or not? Because I’ve already said the logical play here is to flip me.
my mind has never changed. i'm rarely convinced someone is scum
In post 246, Generic wrote:
Because you are clearly a veteran of the game. If uou were a or you wouldn’t even hint at it until it was absolutely necessary. But I’m a safe bet.
i've been playing since January. you're the veteran here, not me
In post 33, Generic wrote:
"In mafia, I've learned to always be wary of yes men. It's also a good idea to always be wary of Generic, because you never know what he's going to try to do."
