Open 886 | Trust Fall | Postgame

[Malakittens]

i know I was taking a risk that this is scum black
but the more that the game is going on
the more i'm confident that this is town black
and i made the right decision

now its my turn to prove that i'm town to her
and we will live happily ever after~

[Malakittens]

YESSSSSSSS THAT PAGETOP

[Merlyn]

I had you pinned down in the last game we played. I'm not confident I'll be able to do it again though

oh, in the one with merlyn? newbie? yeah, you did
that game was a fuckign dumpster fire i hate it

yeah, there were some awful folx in that game. Some awesome folx too but also some awful folx

[Merlyn]

hey mala! if someone else you think is town asks you to fall will you do it or is it only black?

[Black]

I feel like I'm going to have a hard time getting people to trust me

I trust black

Always trust my fellow umbreon.

i trust black

YOLO

you know what YOLOOOOO

I trust Black

I trust Black

btw

you know what YOLOOOOO

I trust Black

GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM MY GURL

NONONONOOO

I trust Black

i trust black

dont wanna feel left out

[Alianna]

I trust Black.

[Black]

i know I was taking a risk that this is scum black
but the more that the game is going on
the more i'm confident that this is town black
and i made the right decision

now its my turn to prove that i'm town to her
and we will live happily ever after~

[Klick]

Another thing that frustrates me about this setup: we don't get much information as the game progresses, at least not particularly helpful information unless we screw up

[Doctor Drew]

Ok I kinda don't trust Mala anymore.

Probably good call Black by not trusting back right away, imo.

[Klick]

I trust Doctor Drew

Let's play hardball

[Black]

[Doctor Drew]

I trust Doctor Drew

Let's play hardball

Ooh spicy play by Klick.

But you need to wine and dine me a bit before I agree to dance(callbacks ftw).

[Doctor Drew]

Black

Alianna
Sky
Klick
Nurse
Nuke
Merlyn


Mala

Kinda where I am at, Black is the only solid town read, Mala is the only solid scum read.

Nurse is the null line, I forgot they were even in the game tbh. Nuke is someone if I had experience I feel I would be scum reading, but trying to give their play style the benefit of the doubt for now. Merlyn is definitely a vibe read of lean scum.

Alianna will always start at the top of the town list, if she doesn't start Alianna-ing up, then she may slide.

Sky is just Sky lol, Klick is someone I now realize I always am distrusting of but realize it is their serious demeanor, which I see here, so they can be lean town for now.

[Black]

I think I feel good about Drew so far

[Black]

I still feel like mala and Merlyn are kinda scummy for being the first to throw out a trust, even when I take personalities into consideration

Merlyn less so I guess because hers seemed like a test to sort me coming out of it

[Doctor Drew]

I still feel like mala and Merlyn are kinda scummy for being the first to throw out a trust, even when I take personalities into consideration

Merlyn less so I guess because hers seemed like a test to sort me coming out of it

There is a tin foil thought that you and Mala are scum and this was done to clear you. But most of the rest of my brain just says that is general Mafia paranoia lol.

But either way I do agree it is scummy of Mala, and even basically spent most of the pre trust fall period trying to butter you up.

[Klick]

I don't think Mala/Black S/S makes sense. If Mala is scum then the goal with her play just now has been to flat-out get herself trusted

Scum have a simple objective - get both members trusted by someone. Mala's play would get Black townread, but at the expense of Mala being less likely to be trusted. It doesn't make sense

[Klick]

The only scum motivation I can see for Mala's play is if she thought she wouldn't get trusted if she didn't do something like this

I don't feel confident but I kinda think it makes Mala likely town

[Doctor Drew]

I don't think Mala/Black S/S makes sense. If Mala is scum then the goal with her play just now has been to flat-out get herself trusted

Scum have a simple objective - get both members trusted by someone. Mala's play would get Black townread, but at the expense of Mala being less likely to be trusted. It doesn't make sense

The only scum motivation I can see for Mala's play is if she thought she wouldn't get trusted if she didn't do something like this

I don't feel confident but I kinda think it makes Mala likely town

Hmm, that is a good point. They both have to leave to win.

One caveat is that, from what I understand, most of us haven't played this setup and not know the best strategy.

[Black]

The only scum motivation I can see for Mala's play is if she thought she wouldn't get trusted if she didn't do something like this

I don't feel confident but I kinda think it makes Mala likely town

Why couldn't the motivation be to just try and do a quick exit? I said before the voting period opened that the only reason I didn't accept mala's offer was because I couldn't yet. She could have taken that seriously and thought it might work once voting opened up

[Black]

I feel like I'm going to have a hard time getting people to trust me

I trust black

Always trust my fellow umbreon.

I trust black

Always trust my fellow umbreon.

Boo that's what I was going to do

Klick, why though? What's there to go by?

Only thing that comes to my mind is that Malakittens and Black are probably not both Mafia together, because otherwise even though Black not accepting might make him look towny; it's the opposite for Malakittens.

A second thought that comes to mind is the possibility of Klick trying to make Malakittens look good, but maybe there's some player meta knowledge with regards to Black to I'm unaware of?

I didn't accept because we can't trust fall for 24 hours, otherwise I'd totally be outta here with mala on page 1

Like I think there's a world where scum!mala sees this and thinks she has a shot

[Doctor Drew]

The only scum motivation I can see for Mala's play is if she thought she wouldn't get trusted if she didn't do something like this

I don't feel confident but I kinda think it makes Mala likely town

Why couldn't the motivation be to just try and do a quick exit? I said before the voting period opened that the only reason I didn't accept mala's offer was because I couldn't yet. She could have taken that seriously and thought it might work once voting opened up

Also hold up, I didn't let it sink in when I first read it.

Isn't the primary scum motivation for Black to trust Mala and scumMala exits the game??

Pretty much what you said Black, but Klick has some splaining to do.

[Klick]

The only scum motivation I can see for Mala's play is if she thought she wouldn't get trusted if she didn't do something like this

I don't feel confident but I kinda think it makes Mala likely town

Why couldn't the motivation be to just try and do a quick exit? I said before the voting period opened that the only reason I didn't accept mala's offer was because I couldn't yet. She could have taken that seriously and thought it might work once voting opened up

I see these as equivalent?
The idea being that she thought a quick exit would be her best odds

[Black]

Rereading it, they do seem somewhat equivalent yeah. I guess I don't see why this makes mala likely town

[Klick]

The only scum motivation I can see for Mala's play is if she thought she wouldn't get trusted if she didn't do something like this

I don't feel confident but I kinda think it makes Mala likely town

Why couldn't the motivation be to just try and do a quick exit? I said before the voting period opened that the only reason I didn't accept mala's offer was because I couldn't yet. She could have taken that seriously and thought it might work once voting opened up

Also hold up, I didn't let it sink in when I first read it.

Isn't the primary scum motivation for Black to trust Mala and scumMala exits the game??

Pretty much what you said Black, but Klick has some splaining to do.

I'm not really sure what you mean by this

Like obviously, the goal would be for Mala!scum to get Black to accept. But what I was talking about was more the /why/, the planning of it. If Mala is scum, why is THIS the route she has chosen. And you kinda have to assume she thought doing this gave her a better chance than, well, not doing this.