Mini Normal 2310 | Day 7

[Flavor Leaf]

Because I believe in almost every situation here, you are the obvious choice for scum this game.

My plan of action here is:

Doctor Drew today

If game continues, you can fade me for your own security.

And then you get put into a 50/50 with Klazam/Davesaz.

I don’t believe it passes Drew, and I actively take the loss as scum with this plan, so it makes no sense for me to push it like that.


I’ll do one better

I believe Doctor Drew is exactly a Multitasking Even Night Roleblocker.

[Klazam]

Because I believe in almost every situation here, you are the obvious choice for scum this game.

My plan of action here is:

Doctor Drew today

If game continues, you can fade me for your own security.

And then you get put into a 50/50 with Klazam/Davesaz.

I don’t believe it passes Drew, and I actively take the loss as scum with this plan, so it makes no sense for me to push it like that.


I’ll do one better

I believe Doctor Drew is exactly a Multitasking Even Night Roleblocker.

Why is it Dave over abnegation in that scenario in particular?

[Klazam]

Ok I misunderstood your statement I think. Just want to make it clear we only have three day phases with one being a no-elim.

6 -> 4 -> 3

[Klazam]

But I’m still curious to why you didn’t mention abnegation over me/Dave.

[Flavor Leaf]

Abnegation is close to mech cleared, why would we go Abneg?

[Flavor Leaf]

They have to be exactly a Multitasking Ninja Roleblocker if they are scum, and there wasn’t a claimed Role Block on Night 3, which doesn’t make sense unless scum didn’t have a roleblock that night OR they wanted to get tracked and went nowhere. Drew was the one we were talking about getting tracked, and they didn’t go anywhere Night 3.

Geraint claimed No Result on Klazam in Neighborhood, just so we’re on same page.

[Flavor Leaf]

Ok I misunderstood your statement I think. Just want to make it clear we only have three day phases with one being a no-elim.

6 -> 4 -> 3

Damn. Okay.

Well, I think the game just always ends with Drew here, and I think the analysis is there to back it up frankly.

[Flavor Leaf]

We know there is a roleblocker in play because Nono claimed No Result on Night 2 targeting Abneg.

Abneg claimed to have been targeted by Geraint, so they knew this was the case. This makes Abneg not Ascetic.

Geraint tracked Abneg nowhere on Night 2, the night Nono got roleblocked.

Abnegation can’t be scum unless they are a Multitasking Ninja Roleblocker.

Geraint got a No Result Night 4, and Snivy died, meaning scum can block and kill same night unless Klazam is an Ascetic Roleblocker or Multitasking Roleblocker exactly. (Bar a few variations stemming from that).

I talked about how you claiming Miller when a Cop was about to die is a really weird play overall as scum, and I agreed with a lot of your association tells and agreed that both me and Drew *should* be the main ones in the POE.

I also feel that my play has been very town indicative, specifically my Day 2 Twilight calling out Hu Tao as bussing Kitty and highlighting why I didn’t think Nono would be scum going after Hu Tao in a scenario where Kitty partner would be bussed.

On top of that, I feel my flip on Ame to town read them and pushing for mass claim the day that Hu Tao was rushing to end day phase is also showing that Hu Tao and I are not aligned.

[davesaz]

It took me a couple times reading that to see why Abnegation should be ruled out by mech unless it's that specific role.

Drew or Klaz I think. I think I've only played Minecraft with Klaz, don't know if claiming miller as 3rd scum just to do something that "scum him shouldn't do" is within his range.
I know that FL is capable of doing exactly that list of things as scum, especially in a game where there isn't another overwhelming town presence. But it doesn't feel that way. Doing it is one thing, saying he's done it is another.

[Klazam]

I hate hate hate self analysis.

I'm starting to lean Drew - I think my analysis the previous day also points that way.

Gera, Dave, really really want to hear from you.

PEDIT I dont think I'd honestly ever claim miller as scum. I think i come from a time where miller claims do NOT go to ELO, but well lol. One thing for your consideration - would Hu Tao counterclaim me as a scumbuddy?

[Abnegation]

In the neighborhood last night, Snivy was pretty down to be on the same page, so it's possible Geraint saw and wanted to take that out. Bussing that way from Geraint's side is just weird, though, and for them to be scum, it requires them to be Multitasking Roleblocker Loud (Insert Role Here), where Loud only effects the 2nd role.

i really don't think it's that complicated, most of the other roles have been pretty simple.

[Abnegation]

But I’m still curious to why you didn’t mention abnegation over me/Dave.

you posted 1068 earlier and leaf agreed with you, so why ask this?

[Klazam]

Because I wanted to know why he didn’t mention you in that post.

Tbh the fact FL mentions me in that grouping makes me feel better about FL overall. I was worried that he was just trying to say “good things” about me to help tilt my mindset to not going for him.

[Doctor Drew]

Because I believe in almost every situation here, you are the obvious choice for scum this game.

My plan of action here is:

Doctor Drew today

If game continues, you can fade me for your own security.

And then you get put into a 50/50 with Klazam/Davesaz.

I don’t believe it passes Drew, and I actively take the loss as scum with this plan, so it makes no sense for me to push it like that.


I’ll do one better

I believe Doctor Drew is exactly a Multitasking Even Night Roleblocker.

It will pass Drew.

Are you prepared to accept being faded tomorrow?

I know Drew is exactly a Vanilla Townie.

Let's see if that is the case

VOTE: Drew

[Klazam]

Alright. I think I have nothing else to discuss on my end.

Gera town, abneg looks to be mechanically cleared, and Dave is not scum.

Leaving just these two FL and Drew.

I’m going to

VOTE: Doctor Drew


PEdit: the fuck is with all these self votes in this site meta? Changes nothing for me.

[Abnegation]

Because I wanted to know why he didn’t mention you in that post.

Tbh the fact FL mentions me in that grouping makes me feel better about FL overall. I was worried that he was just trying to say “good things” about me to help tilt my mindset to not going for him.

i thought it was pretty obvious why i wasn't mentioned there.
i don't really think you're scum, just don't understand this line of questioning from you.

p-edit: yay, wifom.

[Klazam]

Interesting note though.

I actually think FL would be arrogant enough to believe he can manipulate this all the way to a scum win.

I’m now getting massive gut pings that my vote on drew is wrong.

[Klazam]

Ugh I gotta do this

Gotta iso free to just see where I am on that

[Klazam]

*drew

[Doctor Drew]

Alright. I think I have nothing else to discuss on my end.

Gera town, abneg looks to be mechanically cleared, and Dave is not scum.

Leaving just these two FL and Drew.

I’m going to

VOTE: Doctor Drew


PEdit: the fuck is with all these self votes in this site meta? Changes nothing for me.

Flavor has it all figured out, I am scum right?

No way he is acting like Python in a previous game saying that mech wise I have to be scum.....nope Flavor wouldn't do that.......and no way Python was scum when doing that.....nope can't be.

Even with the only evidence out there was ger saying I never went anywhere, but has to be another explanation instead of Drew being VT.

I veered off Flavor when Ame seemed so scummy, that was my mistake, I then stuck to my stubborn belief of not sorting him on D1 even when he was scummy. And ya I don't have much of a read on Dave and Ger, but I have a big read on Flavor.

So go ahead and vote me, see where Flavor is wrong(that doesn't make him scum tbf), and then go back and look at our D1 interaction.

[Klazam]

I will shave my head if Ame is town.

This made me chuckle.

UNVOTE:

Drew’s iso actually makes me feel differently.

People who are NOT flavorleaf- please look at Drew’s iso posts 9 to 11 (talking with Hu Tao)

Do you think that is a scum to scum conversation? I don’t feel like it is.

VOTE: Flavor

[Klazam]

Alright. I think I have nothing else to discuss on my end.

Gera town, abneg looks to be mechanically cleared, and Dave is not scum.

Leaving just these two FL and Drew.

I’m going to

VOTE: Doctor Drew


PEdit: the fuck is with all these self votes in this site meta? Changes nothing for me.

Flavor has it all figured out, I am scum right?

No way he is acting like Python in a previous game saying that mech wise I have to be scum.....nope Flavor wouldn't do that.......and no way Python was scum when doing that.....nope can't be.

Even with the only evidence out there was ger saying I never went anywhere, but has to be another explanation instead of Drew being VT.

I veered off Flavor when Ame seemed so scummy, that was my mistake, I then stuck to my stubborn belief of not sorting him on D1 even when he was scummy. And ya I don't have much of a read on Dave and Ger, but I have a big read on Flavor.

So go ahead and vote me, see where Flavor is wrong(that doesn't make him scum tbf), and then go back and look at our D1 interaction.

Was this night three that Ger tracked you? I actually forgot about that.

[Flavor Leaf]

It ain’t me, Drew.

If I’m wrong on you, Drew, it’s TvT.

It ain’t me, though

[Doctor Drew]

I will shave my head if Ame is town.

This made me chuckle.

UNVOTE:

Drew’s iso actually makes me feel differently.

People who are NOT flavorleaf- please look at Drew’s iso posts 9 to 11 (talking with Hu Tao)

Do you think that is a scum to scum conversation? I don’t feel like it is.

VOTE: Flavor

That was a false threat, I already shave my head lol.

[Flavor Leaf]

Interesting note though.

I actually think FL would be arrogant enough to believe he can manipulate this all the way to a scum win.

I’m now getting massive gut pings that my vote on drew is wrong.

If I were scum, sure, it’s possible, but you can ask my neighbors how much effort I put in last night to analyzing the game and looking for every possibility through every single slot on the game.

But also just because I would be *confident enough* as scum, doesn’t mean I am scum here.

You’ve let paranoia run you on my slot this game, Klazam.