You won't technically be IC, because Enchant won't say something like "Nurse is town so the game continues," the message is just going to be something like "the game continues" and we won't know why.
It could be that HPE is lying about being the klutz, HPE is actually the klutz but is also drunk/poisoned, or the most obvious scenario.
But I don't think anything other than HPE being klutz and you being good is mechanically possible at this point even before Enchant confirms it, barring the scenarios where a good is playing against their wincon.
In post 377, PiggyGal15 wrote:
I genuinely can't tell if Infinity doesn't know how the roles work, or if he's deliberately saying wrong info to confuse town?
Infinity is 100% lying, they know they're an evil twin and are lying about it presumably to try and create uncertainty about what the demon is.
I'm pretty happy with infinity taking this line tbh because I'm pretty sure there's a strong chance I become proven good when all the info comes out.
You won't technically be IC, because Enchant won't say something like "Nurse is town so the game continues," the message is just going to be something like "the game continues" and we won't know why.
It could be that HPE is lying about being the klutz, HPE is actually the klutz but is also drunk/poisoned, or the most obvious scenario.
But I don't think anything other than HPE being klutz and you being good is mechanically possible at this point even before Enchant confirms it, barring the scenarios where a good is playing against their wincon.
But if HPE is Klutz but Drunk/Poisoned and targets me (Town) that wouldn't result in the Town/Outsider faction losing, right?
You won't technically be IC, because Enchant won't say something like "Nurse is town so the game continues," the message is just going to be something like "the game continues" and we won't know why.
It could be that HPE is lying about being the klutz, HPE is actually the klutz but is also drunk/poisoned, or the most obvious scenario.
But I don't think anything other than HPE being klutz and you being good is mechanically possible at this point even before Enchant confirms it, barring the scenarios where a good is playing against their wincon.
But if HPE is Klutz but Drunk/Poisoned and targets me (Town) that wouldn't result in the Town/Outsider faction losing, right?
In post 385, Hu Tao wrote:
Nice so we have a confirmed town in RN. Hopefully this game becomes more clear. I'll post more in thr morning
I know I'm Town, but as VS mentioned if there's interference it could mess with the actual result?
Yes, but I also don't think it's possible for that to have happened.
Infinity is the evil twin and there's a living vortox, and none of those things mess with the klutz power.
I guess it's possible philosopher chose klutz if they can choose outsiders?
But that seems insane.
Either way you're already confirmed good for me from piggy's info; there's no way piggy got the number they did unless you're good.
In post 378, Vanderscamp wrote:
Hu Tao/atsi, claims?
At must kill I think we should have all info on the table
Mathematician. First night I got a 0, second night a 1. I think this means that the demon is either No Dashii or Vortox.
Unless I'm missing something, the ways that abilities can work abnormally is:
No Dashii. Their town neighbours would have to be one that used their ability D1 or N2, and one that hasn't been affected by the poison yet, for my 1 to make sense.
Vortox. I don't think I can rule this out mechanically with the info we have now, but since AniX is so scummy, this seems a lot less likely than No Dashii in my mind.
Vigormortis killing their minion. That would make Erinys the minion, and Infinity would be poisoned. This can be ruled out, since this would mean AniX wasn't the minion and Random Nurse is lying, and Vanderscamp would be lying about being twin. Erinys/Nurse/Vanderscamp can't all be scum and I don't think there's a reason for one to lie as town.
Snake Charmer hitting the demon. Ruled out since if AniX did become the demon N1, there wouldn't have been a kill on N2.
Philosopher choosing a role that's in the game. Hu Tau has told me her role and it isn't Philosopher, and everyone else has claimed publicly, so for a Philosopher to exist there has to be a Cerenovus making someone Mad about being another town role. This means AniX wasn't the minion since Cerenovus would have to still be alive, and that means Random Nurse info is false and my 1 doesn't make sense. So I think this can be ruled out.
Sweetheart dying. For Sweetheart to exist, there also has to be a Cerenovus alive. So this can be ruled out the same way as the Philosopher case.
If an ability isn't working due to poison/drunkness, but they receive true information anyway, would this still count as their ability working abnormally?
Is the Juggler allowed to change their guesses during the day?
I guess things don't really add up if Vanderscamp is No Dashii. If both PiggyGal and Random Nurse are poisoned, I would have gotten a 2 unless Random Nurse got true info despite being poisoned. And if AniX is town and got poisoned that means Random Nurse also got poisoned or drunk somehow?
If an ability isn't working due to poison/drunkness, but they receive true information anyway, would this still count as their ability working abnormally?
Is the Juggler allowed to change their guesses during the day?
1. I need context to answer this one.
2. Yes.
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If an ability isn't working due to poison/drunkness, but they receive true information anyway, would this still count as their ability working abnormally?
Is the Juggler allowed to change their guesses during the day?
1. I need context to answer this one.
2. Yes.
Example: A Juggler is poisoned from being next to a No Dashii, and makes one correct guess on the first day. At night they are told "1". Would this still count as abnormal for Mathematician?
In post 378, Vanderscamp wrote:
Hu Tao/atsi, claims?
At must kill I think we should have all info on the table
Mathematician. First night I got a 0, second night a 1. I think this means that the demon is either No Dashii or Vortox.
Unless I'm missing something, the ways that abilities can work abnormally is:
No Dashii. Their town neighbours would have to be one that used their ability D1 or N2, and one that hasn't been affected by the poison yet, for my 1 to make sense.
Vortox. I don't think I can rule this out mechanically with the info we have now, but since AniX is so scummy, this seems a lot less likely than No Dashii in my mind.
Vigormortis killing their minion. That would make Erinys the minion, and Infinity would be poisoned. This can be ruled out, since this would mean AniX wasn't the minion and Random Nurse is lying, and Vanderscamp would be lying about being twin. Erinys/Nurse/Vanderscamp can't all be scum and I don't think there's a reason for one to lie as town.
Snake Charmer hitting the demon. Ruled out since if AniX did become the demon N1, there wouldn't have been a kill on N2.
Philosopher choosing a role that's in the game. Hu Tau has told me her role and it isn't Philosopher, and everyone else has claimed publicly, so for a Philosopher to exist there has to be a Cerenovus making someone Mad about being another town role. This means AniX wasn't the minion since Cerenovus would have to still be alive, and that means Random Nurse info is false and my 1 doesn't make sense. So I think this can be ruled out.
Sweetheart dying. For Sweetheart to exist, there also has to be a Cerenovus alive. So this can be ruled out the same way as the Philosopher case.
I have thoughts on this that I'll share after hu tao claims
If an ability isn't working due to poison/drunkness, but they receive true information anyway, would this still count as their ability working abnormally?
Is the Juggler allowed to change their guesses during the day?
1. I need context to answer this one.
2. Yes.
Example: A Juggler is poisoned from being next to a No Dashii, and makes one correct guess on the first day. At night they are told "1". Would this still count as abnormal for Mathematician?
I did a BOTC quiz about a month ago, I'm not sure what Enchant's ruling is for this game but in general the answer is no, if a poisoned/drunk player gets correct info that doesn't count for mathematician.
