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Official Vote Count 2.05

With 6 players alive, it takes 4 votes or more to Execute player.

Vanderscamp (2): Random Nurse, Infinity 324

Infinity 324 (2): Vanderscamp, PiggyGal15

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(expired on 2023-09-30 17:21:54).

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[PiggyGal15]

VOTE: Infinity

No explanation?

Is one needed? In a fight between Vander vs Infinity on which one I believe is the good twin vs evil twin, I think Infinity is evil.

I would still like an explanation. Also, do you disagree about what I said about it not being a good idea to execute either one of them today?

Kind of? Even if we do execute the demon today instead, we still can't win and there won't be any confirmation that we killed the demon (other than oracle getting a "no" instead? Would there be any other ways to confirm that don't involve relying on one of the twins?)

VOTE: Infinity

No explanation?

Is one needed? In a fight between Vander vs Infinity on which one I believe is the good twin vs evil twin, I think Infinity is evil.

If you think Infinity is the minion, who do you think the demon is?

At this point, Hu Tao. Their posts in thread have been imo anti-town all day, and they've been cagey and dismissive about all game talk in our private chat. Of the six of us that are left, taking out Vander and Infinity, that leaves me with you, Nurse or Hu Tao as demon, and I believe Nurse is town (is there a world where Nurse isn't conftown here?), so between the last two, I'm definitely thinking it's Hu Tao.

[Infinity 324]

if we eliminate the demon we win

[atsi]

Kind of? Even if we do execute the demon today instead, we still can't win and there won't be any confirmation that we killed the demon (other than oracle getting a "no" instead? Would there be any other ways to confirm that don't involve relying on one of the twins?)

There would be no more night kills if we execute the demon.

if we eliminate the demon we win

Yeah but that's only fypov. If there are twins we'd have to execute the Evil Twin also in order to win.

[Vanderscamp]

Vanderscamp do you think there's a point in Hu Tao claiming now vs tomorrow? If not, I guess it's best to give scum as little info as possible.

It's must kill and hu tao is in a very small pool of possible demons, I don't think there's any advantage to not claiming now.

[Vanderscamp]

if there does have to be a vortox, that means anix is town then right? i don't see why that's not the world we live in

i do think I have to be limmed today cause of Occam's razor, which is a bit frustrating because there's no way to know for sure that vander is lying, but I don't see what else we can do

@random nurse I'm pretty sure barring extreme circumstances anix has to be town

That I don't know.

Is it not possible he could be the Minion and lying?

Maybe one day you will read my posts

[Vanderscamp]

Does it make sense to go for the demon today instead of Infinity? If we ml today then we still get another shot at the demon tomorrow.

We are 6 alive now, so after ml and night kill we're 4 tomorrow. If we get the demon tomorrow there's no night kill and we are 3 the day after because no night kill.

If we instead get Infinity then we are 4 tomorrow, but we won't have an ml then since demon will kill someone.

Seems fine, downside is that 4 alive with 2 evils is not a great spot to be in, but it's not the end of the world

[Vanderscamp]

From my POV, Anix is confirmed good.

I know this because I'm the good twin and I know infinity is the evil twin.
So for Anix to be evil, they have to be the demon specifically, because the minion is already accounted for, but this is not possible because there was a kill last night.



So if Anix is evil, I'm also evil, everyone else is confirmed good, and I would have to be the demon.

If I'm the demon, I have to be no dashi or vortox based on atsi's mathematician info because no one has claimed a power that drunks people (according to what atsi has said about hu tao) and fang gu and vigormortis don't have the ability to poison people. Vigormortis does, but I obviously didn't kill my minion last night so this is impossible.

Vortox can be ruled out because multiple townsfolk (all townsfolk?) are getting correct information about the evil team.


So I would have to be specifically no dashi, but this doesn't work from the mathematician info either based on my previous post.

Sorry but I'm not sure I understand this part. How can we rule out you being the Vortox?

Because multiple townsfolk would be getting correct info.

This is trying (unsuccessfully) to explain to Random why Anix can't be scum.
It could be possible I can be vortox with a different minion, I haven't delved into that.

[Vanderscamp]

Kind of? Even if we do execute the demon today instead, we still can't win and there won't be any confirmation that we killed the demon (other than oracle getting a "no" instead? Would there be any other ways to confirm that don't involve relying on one of the twins?)

There would be no more night kills if we execute the demon.

if we eliminate the demon we win

Yeah but that's only fypov. If there are twins we'd have to execute the Evil Twin also in order to win.

This is actually a pretty exciting way to confirm me as real, if we kill the demon and get mech info that it was correct, infinity becomes outed

[Vanderscamp]

I'm happy killing into the demon pool today, I selfishly am also happy going for the sure thing in infinity today.
If we're going for demon candidates today, Hu Tao claiming is absolutely mandatory IMO

[Infinity 324]

This is actually a pretty exciting way to confirm me as real, if we kill the demon and get mech info that it was correct, infinity becomes outed

i'm more sure that vander is the demon atp but sure

[Hu Tao]

I think we always vote in infinity and Vander today it's 50/50.

It seems kinda risky since if we ml Vanderscamp we just lose, and if we ml Infinity we end up in an F4 with both minion and demon and we just auto-lose if Vanderscamp is the demon.

oh wait how do we win an f4 with 2 scum

Same question. Don't we just lose?

[Infinity 324]

hu tao claim

[Hu Tao]

VT

[AniX]

...are you making a joke or have you just demon-confessed because you haven't read the rules?

[AniX]

Person who is under credible suspicion for being the evil team: "My role in this game where everyone has an ability? No ability vanilla townie."

[Infinity 324]

lol vander said hu tao claimed to them in the pt

[AniX]

Then it should be no trouble for Hu to claim here too.

[Vanderscamp]

lol vander said hu tao claimed to them in the pt

I think you're thinking of atsi

[HighPrincessErinys]

if this one didnt only have the one vote it would be putting hu on the chopping block LMAO

[AniX]

Yeah, it is either a shitpost with no legitimate follow-up during a time when town really needs information since we have a twin situation (anti-town) or it is outright claiming a role that doesn't exist in the game (VERY anti-town)

[AniX]

The only alternate I see is they are trying to softpedal Mutant, in which case them dying/getting modkilled will STILL be good for town because it exposes you HPE lol

[Infinity 324]

lol vander said hu tao claimed to them in the pt

I think you're thinking of atsi

oh too bad

[Hu Tao]

Infinity passed the vibe check, Anix did not. I'm Savant

[Infinity 324]

very helpful to know that the conftown did not pass the vibecheck

do you have info?