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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:32 am

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In post 573, T3 wrote:
In post 567, Dannflor wrote:
In post 564, Aureal wrote: I went through the game again and didn't see anything that really pinged me. He seems to occupy a pretty solidly reasonable position. Could he be scum, sure. I don't have any reason to particularly suspect him at this point so I'm fine worrying about that later.
tbh these are the types of reads that flip scum most often
What about, like, actual scumreads? This logic is so weird that I almost wonder if Dannflor is tunnled town.
most people's actual scum reads flip town

like empirically if you look at the average person's reads in any given game their null reads are the most likely group of reads to contain scum
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:32 am

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re: the rest of it uh

i feel like maybe i'm misunderstanding something here?

what percentage of the time would you have said black is flipping scum there.

pedit: this is true my null reads do flip scum a lot :oops:
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:33 am

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In post 571, Dannflor wrote: VOTE: T3VOTE: T3VOTE: T3VOTE: T3VOTE: T3VOTE: T3VOTE: T3
I don't think octuplevoter is a role in the setup.
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:34 am

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idk like 90%

but historically i have weighted that 10% pretty heavily

I tried not to do that this game
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:35 am

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In post 575, Dannflor wrote:
In post 573, T3 wrote:
In post 567, Dannflor wrote:
In post 564, Aureal wrote: I went through the game again and didn't see anything that really pinged me. He seems to occupy a pretty solidly reasonable position. Could he be scum, sure. I don't have any reason to particularly suspect him at this point so I'm fine worrying about that later.
tbh these are the types of reads that flip scum most often
What about, like, actual scumreads? This logic is so weird that I almost wonder if Dannflor is tunnled town.
most people's actual scum reads flip town

like empirically if you look at the average person's reads in any given game their null reads are the most likely group of reads to contain scum
Really? I thought that actual lims are more likely to be scum than the EV.
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:36 am

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In post 573, T3 wrote: This logic is so weird that I almost wonder if Dannflor is tunnled town
at risk of being tunneled town this sentence feels performative

i think you've been far too charitable to me here

and idk if you actually are thinking this then the game state is fucked up - like who would be mafia?
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:36 am

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i was going to make a joke post where i replace one of the town roles with octuplevoter but the setup isn't actually in the opening posts

the wiki page is linked but it's just not the same
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:36 am

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like tbh i think the fact that both of our wagons have stalled at e-1 points towards one of us being scum
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:37 am

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i think the idea of that joke is really funny
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:39 am

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i don't really get how your push on black was ever exaggerated if you thought there was a 90% chance she would flip scum tbh?
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:40 am

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In post 580, Dannflor wrote:
In post 573, T3 wrote: This logic is so weird that I almost wonder if Dannflor is tunnled town
at risk of being tunneled town this sentence feels performative

i think you've been far too charitable to me here

and idk if you actually are thinking this then the game state is fucked up - like who would be mafia?
I still think you're scum, but if we're both town and the gamestate is really this fucked up then I'd say that scum is Aureal/iavh or probably, maybe replace one of the two with Abnegation.
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:41 am

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I think if I'm right about the gamestate T3's partner is someone calling me town and bussing

I don't think CCS or iavh positions really make sense as a T3 partner

if T3 flips scum I think it's like only [Black, Dunnstral] that could possibly be partners
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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:42 am

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In post 569, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
In post 558, Dannflor wrote:
In post 541, T3 wrote:
In post 538, iamveryhappy wrote: Before I want to yeet anyone I would like to say this is not biased against anyone
Just remember to claim intent to hammer before actually hammering to allow for claims.
weird fucking post to make btw
its either a scum post or T3 just thinks iamveryhappy will forget
Can you please explain your read progression on me and Dannflor if possible? I've been going through your ISO and I don't quite understand why you voted Dannflor and me why and when you did.
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:44 am

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i voted dannflor?
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:44 am

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In post 584, meowmeow wrote: i don't really get how your push on black was ever exaggerated if you thought there was a 90% chance she would flip scum tbh?
tbh this is just a time where I'm not ever going to make sense to you i don't think

kinda like the time in friends and enemies that in my head "slightly exaggerating" was saying you are acting like you are definitely going to be eliminated instead of probably going to be eliminated
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:46 am

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In post 588, camelCasedSnivy wrote: i voted dannflor?
Or sorry, scumread Dannflor, yeah, you didn't vote him.
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:46 am

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In post 580, Dannflor wrote:
In post 573, T3 wrote: This logic is so weird that I almost wonder if Dannflor is tunnled town
at risk of being tunneled town this sentence feels performative
Well. That I can actually kinda see. But I largely agreed with your point. I dunno about "most often" but I do agree there's certainly a nice niche in the 'inoffensive and reasonable' read for scum to occupy. I expect it depends on the person whether that's the sort of place they'd likely end up. Maybe T3 doesn't agree with that idea though?
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:47 am

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In post 590, T3 wrote:
In post 588, camelCasedSnivy wrote: i voted dannflor?
Or sorry, scumread Dannflor, yeah, you didn't vote him.
i based my dann read on the assumption that iavh/dunn/dann had 1 scum in it. i chose Dunnstral mainly because i didn't like his push on iamveryhappy
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:07 am

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In post 592, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
In post 590, T3 wrote:
In post 588, camelCasedSnivy wrote: i voted dannflor?
Or sorry, scumread Dannflor, yeah, you didn't vote him.
i based my dann read on the assumption that iavh/dunn/dann had 1 scum in it. i chose Dunnstral mainly because i didn't like his push on iamveryhappy
so it was just POE? And what is your current read on Dannflor?
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:29 am

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In post 591, Aureal wrote:
In post 580, Dannflor wrote:
In post 573, T3 wrote: This logic is so weird that I almost wonder if Dannflor is tunnled town
at risk of being tunneled town this sentence feels performative
Well. That I can actually kinda see. But I largely agreed with your point. I dunno about "most often" but I do agree there's certainly a nice niche in the 'inoffensive and reasonable' read for scum to occupy. I expect it depends on the person whether that's the sort of place they'd likely end up. Maybe T3 doesn't agree with that idea though?
I usually occupy the ‘inoffensive and reasonable’ niche as both town and scum. This game I think my reads have been reasonable but I also don’t think my reads have had much opportunity to be offensive - there are no real utr’s or usr’s.
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:06 am

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In post 593, T3 wrote:
In post 592, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
In post 590, T3 wrote:
In post 588, camelCasedSnivy wrote: i voted dannflor?
Or sorry, scumread Dannflor, yeah, you didn't vote him.
i based my dann read on the assumption that iavh/dunn/dann had 1 scum in it. i chose Dunnstral mainly because i didn't like his push on iamveryhappy
so it was just POE? And what is your current read on Dannflor?
ig so. I'm fine with a dann lim for that reason so ig id put him in a nullscum position
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:15 am

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I really wanna yeet someone
iavh is slightly annoyed
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:17 am

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do it
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:41 am

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In post 596, iamveryhappy wrote: I really wanna yeet someone
Do it
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:43 am

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And by do it, they mean after declaring intent and allowing for a claim. :o
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