Open 884: Another Newbie Game | Game Over!

[heipizhu4]

Pagetop! (though no vc )

[Purplemango]

So we have two towns now, of whom:

Daisy said she would vote anyone but "OopsieDaisy, Dannflor or KittyTacky" (leaving Dunnstral, Gamma Emerald, Mr.K, Infinity 324, Purplemango).

Cook said she'd think we'd find scum in "Gamma, Dann, Infinity, Mr.K" so there's quite a bit of overlap, especially when Cook also added that she'd be surprised if Dann wasn't town.

I obviously don't particularly enjoy being one of the three overlapping names but also don't think the overlap necessarily means anything. Just drawing together the information we have from confirmed town.

What strikes me odd about the kill is that Daisy wasn't exactly the most obvious option I think. Pretty much everyone agreed that Kitty would be town, for example, so killing Kitty would have made more sense... unless he's actually scum.... unless they deliberately chose to keep Kitty alive to make us think he's scum, especially him being the one hammering the kill (which I myself don't think is an indication of anything in this particular case, we were running out of time - especially when Dann said he'd be around at deadline).

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All of the above is just me gathering my thoughts and not really implying anything.

However, now that I think of the final votes, a couple of things do come to mind: if Kitty's scum and Dann is town, wouldn't it have been easier for Kitty to not hammer? He'd trust Dann to take all the potential blame of the action. Yes there would be a small chance that Dann would miss the deadline after all and we'd lose the lynch of a townie, but scum would still pick up one free kill and Dann would look even worse the next day.

When I look at the names pointed out by Cook (that Daisy was ok voting as well), I have to ask if and why others find Infinity potentially scummy? Cook never really explained her view in a way that I'd have agreed with it and I still don't see why Infinity would seem scummy but I'm wondering if I'm now being somehow blinded by the fact that I agreed with him early on in the game and he then didn't really do anything that seemed off to me.

Dannflor's late vote-switch on me feels like it would mean he's likely town? I mean, I know I'm town and for the sake of argument let's say that you'd also think that I'm town. We now also know that Cook is town and was at E-1 when Dann switched his vote to me. If he's scum, he'd also know that we're both town so it would feel kinda risky for him to start rocking the boat like that, casting late shame on another townie when one's already being lynched. So I think he's town.

Just to address his concerns about me: I see what he means but my intention with the “Going to see what Cook does and then think and make a decision” was not to be lamist but to repeat (to Cook) that we're waiting on her.

it's kinda makes sense for me to kill daisy as scum, I don't think a lot of people thought she was scum, and she talked a lot, in a way that keeps the game functioning and makes it harder to just hide by not talking or something
kittytacky not for sure town so you can use it against him (especially consider he's the one to hammer), and he's the opposite, the fact that kittytacky hardly wrote could have been useful

[Dannflor]

i don't love the explanation on kitty's hammer

[Dannflor]

I don't think scum claims anything except VT here. I do think Cook is... the least bad choice. The game is quiet so scum can easily blend in by either lurking or being moderately active-- both strats work well at this size so I really don't know. But...

like this over explanation feels guilt ridden

[Dannflor]

Mr. K can be town

[Gamma Emerald]

Why is it scum guilt specifically, since you seem to indicate that’s how you interpret it?

[Dannflor]

don't think town feels any guilt about hammering a slot at deadline

[Dannflor]

I think I like Gamma for town still

For some reason I want to town lean Dunnstral but I don't really have any good reason for that

[Dannflor]

it's kinda makes sense for me to kill daisy as scum, I don't think a lot of people thought she was scum, and she talked a lot, in a way that keeps the game functioning and makes it harder to just hide by not talking or something

kinda wanna town read this tbh

[Infinity 324]

VOTE: cook my heart isn't in this daisy vote let's try this

very sleep-deprived but i'm still ok with my vote

This vote seems particularly weak. It's not clear why you are voting for cook or why you are still ok with it.

it was pretty weak ig, i wanted to vote in the less active slots cause i had a bunch of townreads from the people who were posting. will get to this more deeply today or tomorrow

[Dannflor]

VOTE: infinity

[Gamma Emerald]

don't think town feels any guilt about hammering a slot at deadline

I think it would be the inverse? I can attest the being flipped at deadline essentially just for knowledge sucks so being the one to hammer would probably feel bad as town.

[Gamma Emerald]

theoretically this checks out for how gamma would play as town but it doesn't feel the same for whatever reason

Could you dive into what your thought process behind this was a bit more?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Infinity324
I think I am getting a similar vibe from them to what I saw in this game, and I am actually acting on it this time since there’s no use in keeping a smokescreen

[Dannflor]

I'm just used to getting a little more enthusiasm from infinity

like there's not really any drive or fire to solve the game

which like yeah you could point towards the kinda dead game as a demotivating factor

but I'm not getting the same vibes from Mr. K or Gamma

[Dannflor]

don't think town feels any guilt about hammering a slot at deadline

I think it would be the inverse? I can attest the being flipped at deadline essentially just for knowledge sucks so being the one to hammer would probably feel bad as town.

I think I just want to know why Kitty felt the need to justify their hammer on Cook

I also don't really get or agree with the idea that scum would've claimed VT there

[Infinity 324]

yes i am demotivated

[Dannflor]

is that in general or specific to this game

[Infinity 324]

in general

[Gamma Emerald]

[Dunnstral]

I don't think scum claims anything except VT here. I do think Cook is... the least bad choice. The game is quiet so scum can easily blend in by either lurking or being moderately active-- both strats work well at this size so I really don't know. But...

like this over explanation feels guilt ridden

I disagree I don't think mafia feels the need to hammer there

[KittyTacky]

don't think town feels any guilt about hammering a slot at deadline

Why?

[KittyTacky]

don't think town feels any guilt about hammering a slot at deadline

I think it would be the inverse? I can attest the being flipped at deadline essentially just for knowledge sucks so being the one to hammer would probably feel bad as town.

I think I just want to know why Kitty felt the need to justify their hammer on Cook

I also don't really get or agree with the idea that scum would've claimed VT there

Because I barely scumread Cook?

[heipizhu4]

vc

[heipizhu4]

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