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[Vanderscamp]

I feel like because ny own ability would give false info with a Vortox, being told a 0 is therefore false?

Ok I've just confirmed with the mod and you're correct, this is possible.

So you're not outed evil

[atsi]

Yay

[Vanderscamp]

Lol

[AniX]

1. HighPrincessErinys - klutz
D2: Random Nurse is good

It should be noted that this (and possibly Infinity being evil twin) are the only two pieces of information that would not be impacted by Vortox.

[atsi]

@Mod could you confirm this publicly also?

[Vanderscamp]

Back to one vortox between atsi/hu tao/piggy

Gut lean is piggy

[Vanderscamp]

1. HighPrincessErinys - klutz
D2: Random Nurse is good

It should be noted that this (and possibly Infinity being evil twin) are the only two pieces of information that would not be impacted by Vortox.

Yeah, this is pretty relevant and I should have distinguished.

And I checked this, vortox says "townsfolk abilities yield false info," but me learning that infinity was evil twin was part of a minion ability, not a townsfolk ability.

[atsi]

Does anyone know what Hu Tao's "everyone read their role PM correctly" info could mean? Since we've established that there's a Vortox, someone must have read theirs incorrectly.

I think if no one admits to having read their role PM incorrectly, I guess we can conclude that either a scum read it incorrectly or Hu Tao is scum.

[AniX]

Does anyone know what Hu Tao's "everyone read their role PM correctly" info could mean? Since we've established that there's a Vortox, someone must have read theirs incorrectly.

I think if no one admits to having read their role PM incorrectly, I guess we can conclude that either a scum read it incorrectly or Hu Tao is scum.

Or someone read their PM wrong and still doesn't realize they read it wrong?

[Enchant]

@Mod could you confirm this publicly also?

What i should confirm?

[atsi]

Does anyone know what Hu Tao's "everyone read their role PM correctly" info could mean? Since we've established that there's a Vortox, someone must have read theirs incorrectly.

I think if no one admits to having read their role PM incorrectly, I guess we can conclude that either a scum read it incorrectly or Hu Tao is scum.

Or someone read their PM wrong and still doesn't realize they read it wrong?

Then they should probably realize it after reading Hu Tao's claim and checking their role PM again.

Do you think this info could refer to you, since you thought Snake Charmer's ability was optional? That feels like a bit of a stretch, but I could kinda see it.

[Hu Tao]

I think my role pm was straight forward. Maybe it has to do with confirming their role

[AniX]

I've found people who read things wrong once have a tendency to read things wrong even on successive readings.

It's POSSIBLE it could be me though, although Enchant didn't know I thought it was optional until well after I realized it wasn't.

[atsi]

@Mod could you confirm this publicly also?

What i should confirm?

How Mathematician and Vortox would interact. If a Mathematician gets a 0 on the first night and there is a Vortox, does this mean that some other role besides the Mathematician must have had their ability work abnormally?

[Enchant]

@Mod could you confirm this publicly also?

What i should confirm?

How Mathematician and Vortox would interact. If a Mathematician gets a 0 on the first night and there is a Vortox, does this mean that some other role besides the Mathematician must have had their ability work abnormally?

No. Mathematician can receive 0 in game with Vortox, without any other role being abnormal at night, but it's more because of recursion than actual common sense.

Spoiler: Why

On given example, because no other role is being Abnormal, truth answer would be 0, which is not possible answer due ability of Vortox, therefore answer must be changed, but then it means that Mathematician worked abnormally and truth answer must be 1 instead, which again can't be given due ability of Vortox. Therefore 0 result is plausable even if it would mean that Mathematician didn't work abnormal at first place due recursion resolution because answer was changed at all and 1 are not possible as it's truth in all instances regardless on how you look at recursion.
Therefore any result expect for 1 are reasonable for Mathematician to receive in this situation.

[Vanderscamp]

That makes sense

[Enchant]

Votecount

Official Vote Count 2.06

With 6 players alive, it takes 4 votes or more to Execute player.

Vanderscamp (2): Random Nurse, Infinity 324

Infinity 324 (2): Vanderscamp, PiggyGal15

Deadline:

(expired on 2023-09-30 17:21:54).

Mod notes:

A

[atsi]

Day 1
1. AniX is poisoned
2. There is a Mutant in the play.

Day 2

1. Everyone read their Role PM correctly

2. Demon are Vigormortis

@Random Nurse do you know what this could mean? We know there's a Vortox so unless Hu Tao is lying all this info must be false. Would the mod have a reason to think you read your role PM wrong?

[atsi]

I'm probably gonna vote PiggyGal here anyway, but if we can confirm that someone did read their role PM wrong it would give me a lot more confidence in that vote.

[Vanderscamp]

The problem is that it's unconfirmable since evils can lie about getting their role PM wrong

[Hu Tao]

Yep

[Enchant]

Votecount

AniX, PiggyGal15, Infinity 324, HighPrincessErinys are prodded.

Official Vote Count 2.07

With 6 players alive, it takes 4 votes or more to Execute player.

Vanderscamp (2): Random Nurse, Infinity 324

Infinity 324 (2): Vanderscamp, PiggyGal15

Deadline:

(expired on 2023-09-30 17:21:54).

Mod notes:

A

[AniX]

We should probably consider candidates outside of the Twin binary.

[Random Nurse]

I'm finding it so difficult to play this game without any tangible flips.

[atsi]

We should probably consider candidates outside of the Twin binary.

Yeah. Infinity is conf not demon, and Vanderscamp is too risky when we have a ml. So fmpov that leaves Hu Tao and PiggyGal.