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[Random Nurse]

vander is scum and lying

Yet you said it's a clear guilty?

[Infinity 324]

what is it with y'all and refusing to see that I'm speaking from a neutral perspective

vander is claiming good twin. the purpose of my statement was to make clear that vander could not have received wrong information, and that therefore from y'all's perspective either I am scum or Vander is scum.

[PiggyGal15]

Why am I not surprised that the demon no killed. Believe me or don't, but I am not the demon, we've still got 2 scum.

[atsi]

Why am I not surprised that the demon no killed. Believe me or don't, but I am not the demon, we've still got 2 scum.

So who do you think is scum then?

[Infinity 324]

what if we lim me and the dead people use their votes to elim vander? unless y'all think I no kill gambited

thoughts?

[atsi]

We could execute both Infinity and then Vanderscamp the next day, but then there's a chance that we lose if Vanderscamp is the minion and the demon is still alive. (I guess that demon would be Hu Tao fmpov)

[atsi]

I think we should hold off on voting. We don't have info from Hu Tao yet.

[atsi]

Vanderscamp's 0 makes no sense to me. If PiggyGal was the Vortox, Vanderscamp would have gotten a 1, but if PiggyGal was not the Vortox then 0 scum are dead which means 0 is impossible with Vortox. So I think Vanderscamp is just outed scum?

[Vanderscamp]

Sorry, I did get a 1, when I read the PM I registered it in my head as "this means the demon is dead" and then forgot what the actual number was.
I know that sounds terrible and I might have fucked it but that's what happened

[Vanderscamp]

The demon does not have to kill.

The demon does have to kill btw but they can kill an already dead player

[Vanderscamp]

I am so confused with this game right now.

Vanderscamp, how does your ability work and can we be certain it's a clear guilty on Infinity?

I know infinity is evil because I was told at the start of the game infinity is the evil twin (and they are claiming my role) but that's not related to my role ability.

[Vanderscamp]

I assumed going into this that our info would help us confirm whether we killed the demon but it seems like it really doesn't


I think there's a very high chance piggy was the demon though both from the eod vote onto random, and the fact that there was no kill at night

I don't understand why any demon would deliberately sink a kill and give us an extra kill.

[Vanderscamp]

I guess it doesn't necessarily gain a kill if we were to kill the demon today at 4, because we would still have a final three

[atsi]

Sorry, I did get a 1, when I read the PM I registered it in my head as "this means the demon is dead" and then forgot what the actual number was.
I know that sounds terrible and I might have fucked it but that's what happened

Could you maybe elaborate on this? You forgot what the actual number was, so you just made one up instead of going back to check the PM again? Where is this 0 coming from?

[Vanderscamp]

Piggy, can you explain why you voted Random at eod?

[Vanderscamp]

Sorry, I did get a 1, when I read the PM I registered it in my head as "this means the demon is dead" and then forgot what the actual number was.
I know that sounds terrible and I might have fucked it but that's what happened

Could you maybe elaborate on this? You forgot what the actual number was, so you just made one up instead of going back to check the PM again? Where is this 0 coming from?

No, I misremembered what the number was.
I saw the PM in my emails like an hour before I posted and had it in my head (incorrectly) that it confirmed piggy was the demon.

[atsi]

No, I misremembered what the number was.
I saw the PM in my emails like an hour before I posted and had it in my head (incorrectly) that it confirmed piggy was the demon.

How? This makes no sense.

[Vanderscamp]

Ok, I don't care if it makes no sense because it's what happened.

At the time I thought a 1 meant that the demon had died and I was getting true info, and that's what I remembered from the PM.
When I posted in thread I'd forgotten which way the truth/lie of my info had flipped so in my mind my result was piggy was the demon = 0, and then I saw your post and checked it and realized I'd gotten it wrong.

[HighPrincessErinys]

This is really fuckin weird

[AniX]

I guess the argument is he mentally was doing the calculation in the reverse direction: "There are 0 demons left alive"

[HighPrincessErinys]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY ANIX !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (<- late)

[atsi]

I guess the argument is he mentally was doing the calculation in the reverse direction: "There are 0 demons left alive"

Huuuuuuuuuuh?

Oracle counts dead scum, not alive demons. So Vanderscamp not only forgot the number they got in their PM, but also what their role does, while also somehow having incorrectly concluded that PiggyGal must be demon from their pov?

[atsi]

VOTE: Vanderscamp

[Vanderscamp]

I guess the argument is he mentally was doing the calculation in the reverse direction: "There are 0 demons left alive"

Huuuuuuuuuuh?

Oracle counts dead scum, not alive demons. So Vanderscamp not only forgot the number they got in their PM, but also what their role does, while also somehow having incorrectly concluded that PiggyGal must be demon from their pov?

I didn't forget what my role does.

I woke up and looked at my emails and saw a result that in my mind thought made piggy the demon, which was wrong.

About an hour later I posted in the thread and since during N1 I got a 1 result that confirmed Anix was NOT the demon, I had it in my mind that the numbers were flipped and I had gotten a 0.
I didn't remember what the number was but I remembered what I thought it had meant.

[Vanderscamp]

Like I can understand not liking that, I know I fucked up by not checking, but instead of voting me I want you to tell me what you think my evil team is.