Open 887: Coalition of Frogs (Game Over)

[Ausuka]

Votecount 1.9

It is currently the Elimination Phase. With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to confirm a coalition. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-10-11 14:11:19).

Elimination Votes

Save the Dragons (2)

- implosion, Merlyn

TheHoldSteady (2)

- Save the Dragons, Hero at Heart

Aristeia (1)

- Bellaphant

Hero at Heart (1)

- TheHoldSteady

Not Voting (3)

- Aristeia, Doctor Drew, Malakittens

Flavour

[TheHoldSteady]

Sorry I haven't forgotten about this game. Just been super busy and wanting to have enough time to do a closer reread.

Question for you all: Given the way the coalition came about, how viable do you think an Ari/Hero scumteam is?

[Aristeia]

I don't think it's likely at all tbh

[Doctor Drew]

If it is Ari, I would say with Mala or Merlyn.

I think we probably have a deep wolf though.

I can't help to remember how Implo and I clashed, then they backed off.....after referencing a previous game where they came after me when I was town (and they were town as well, I believe?).

Like I can't shake the feeling that they mentioned it on purpose to be like 'Hey Drew, I do this as town sometimes.....and look at me doing again here! I must be town, right?'

When all else fails I need to go to my special Drew place in my head.

[implosion]

Question for you all: Given the way the coalition came about, how viable do you think an Ari/Hero scumteam is?

Ari/hero scumteam would mean a lot of theater. I don't think the way the coalition came about particularly points to that; Datisi thought it was a good coalition, ari+hero were the first votes on the coalition and other people voted it up later, I don't think the way hero turned around their read on Ari is particularly s->s, etc.

Why is this your first thought that you wanted to ask about?

I can't help to remember how Implo and I clashed, then they backed off.....after referencing a previous game where they came after me when I was town (and they were town as well, I believe?).

I backed off because of that game. And also because I wasn't really looking to pursue scumreads by nature of the setup. "I think there's a deep wolf" is sort of a moot thing to say by nature of this setup; in theory we collectively decided who we thought the 5 towniest people were and at least one of them is scum. So yeah.

At this point I think you're more likely town than not.

[implosion]

shocker

what the hell

Ari,talk to me about hero?

Would really love if people would play the game of mafia that we signed up for.

Bella's is at least technically content (and I guess she said she'd be low-content, idr if that's still going on) but like, ugh. This is 1/3 of the player list posting without giving any opinion on anything after

the coalition failed

. Like, the coalition is either the anticlimax where town wins or the climax of the setup where we're supposed to learn we were wrong about everything. And Mala and STD voted for the coalition and now have nothing to say now that it failed. Like it probably isn't just as easy as STD/Mala but if either of them is town then they had better give some reason to believe that

[Aristeia]

VOTE: STD

[Ausuka]

Prodding Malakittens.

[TheHoldSteady]

Question for you all: Given the way the coalition came about, how viable do you think an Ari/Hero scumteam is?

Ari/hero scumteam would mean a lot of theater. I don't think the way the coalition came about particularly points to that; Datisi thought it was a good coalition, ari+hero were the first votes on the coalition and other people voted it up later, I don't think the way hero turned around their read on Ari is particularly s->s, etc.

Why is this your first thought that you wanted to ask about?

Just the way I start to solve things. if you can rule out one partnership it makes it more probable that there's one scum elsewhere and easier to cross out certain partners. For example, I think if STD is scum then it makes it more likely Drew is town because he was the first to suggest removing Datisi from the Coalition

[Hero at Heart]

hi, i am back.

the fact that this is friday does do wonders for my wim.

I guess I feel like I can get a better read on STD given more time so I'm not really in a rush to vote him yet.

I feel good things about your slot which historically means I'm being snowed by you since I''m not scumreading you

I feel like I can't really touch hero atp since everyone thinks he's town and maybe it's just me being the idiot who can't see it.

I dunno I feel worse about bella than before.

I'm not sold on Hero being town

i'm sold on you not being town though.

[Hero at Heart]

alas.

i do not like std's approve post. I guess it can come from town but it makes lots of sense from scum who's afraid that the winds could change with the fact that his reads like, conveniently happen to match up with the coalition that was already proposed and that his predecessor also liked. Like, just the sheer odds of those reads matching up is kind of low whereas scum can pick reads that are convenient and if he's in a failing coalition that has popular support and someone is talking about ousting him from the coalition then of course those are convenient reads for him to have.

I sort of want to throw up my hands and say it's just std/mala because that explains them jointly hammering the coalition when I was asking to sub in THS for probably STD. I like bella's previous page. I'm kind of irked at the coalition being hammered this way but i also probably could have been louder but i guess hindsight is 20/20. I think Drew saying he wants to start over is pretty townish in context.

VOTE: Save The Dragons

tbh i guess i just really didn't want datisi to be scum this game, same way ge didn't want ari to be scum when she was

i can totally see your read on std, and i also just don't see either you or bella being scum ever.

and i also promised ari not to push her if this fails and i care about ari's opinion of me too much to betray her like this.

ugh fine i guess std can be the lim. but if it fails i will be very sad because i had such a fucking soul read on the slot.

[Hero at Heart]

okay would you think i'm crazy if i suggested voting merlyn instead of one of the coalition members? probably yes. i mean i think i'm crazy right now because if i were sane then how come my coalition failed.

[Hero at Heart]

VOTE: std

ari if you scum i will cry

[Hero at Heart]

UNVOTE:

[Hero at Heart]

btw @ari @ausuka don't you agree this unvote sounds suspiciously aimilar to a certain unvote i've done in another game? jkjk

[Hero at Heart]

implo can you please tell me why everyone except std and kittens are town?

[Hero at Heart]

VOTE: Mala

Days of no activity, then a sudden burst of activity leading to the hammer? I think your buddy was urging you to get in there behind the scenes

we should vote out someone in the coalition first - voting outside of coalition is p bad

Can we stash a Merlyn vote for later?

ok i think i'm really hapoy with reading drew as town for now.

[Hero at Heart]

If it is Ari, I would say with Mala or Merlyn.

I think we probably have a deep wolf though.

I can't help to remember how Implo and I clashed, then they backed off.....after referencing a previous game where they came after me when I was town (and they were town as well, I believe?).

Like I can't shake the feeling that they mentioned it on purpose to be like 'Hey Drew, I do this as town sometimes.....and look at me doing again here! I must be town, right?'

When all else fails I need to go to my special Drew place in my head.

what did you find in your Special Drew Place (except aliyana memes)?

[Hero at Heart]

I don't think it's likely at all tbh

i also don't think it's likely. high five.

[Hero at Heart]

shocker

what the hell

Ari,talk to me about hero?

Would really love if people would play the game of mafia that we signed up for.

Bella's is at least technically content (and I guess she said she'd be low-content, idr if that's still going on) but like, ugh. This is 1/3 of the player list posting without giving any opinion on anything after

the coalition failed

. Like, the coalition is either the anticlimax where town wins or the climax of the setup where we're supposed to learn we were wrong about everything. And Mala and STD voted for the coalition and now have nothing to say now that it failed. Like it probably isn't just as easy as STD/Mala but if either of them is town then they had better give some reason to believe that

i very much agree with you.

sorry for not being here earlier, i had to gather up the mental energy to face the fact that i've actually townlocked a scum and that my reads sucked. but now i'm here.

[Hero at Heart]

implo can you please tell me why everyone except std and kittens are town?

like give me a 1-2 sentence towncase on each oerson except them.

[Hero at Heart]

person*

[Bellaphant]

Not caught up thoughts:

Ari/hero scum.team feels very unlikely? Scum theatre is rarely scum theatre in my experience. Is there one scum in them, maybe.
Drew and implo still town.
Could be persuaded on std, low confidence reading them
Have low key read sr mer since like page 5.

[Bellaphant]

Ugh I like hero's posting on this page and I can't work out if I'm being snowed.

[Bellaphant]

Question for you all: Given the way the coalition came about, how viable do you think an Ari/Hero scumteam is?

Ari/hero scumteam would mean a lot of theater. I don't think the way the coalition came about particularly points to that; Datisi thought it was a good coalition, ari+hero were the first votes on the coalition and other people voted it up later, I don't think the way hero turned around their read on Ari is particularly s->s, etc.

Why is this your first thought that you wanted to ask about?

Just the way I start to solve things. if you can rule out one partnership it makes it more probable that there's one scum elsewhere and easier to cross out certain partners. For example, I think if STD is scum then it makes it more likely Drew is town because he was the first to suggest removing Datisi from the Coalition

I hate this? It feels like picking on the two most obvious players to get 'heat' and then the justification is terrible too , especially picking drew who's obv town and the not considering if he was scum then std could be town and drew wanted him replaced with his scum partner, for example.

Ari/hero is not s/s
Hero/ths isn't s/s unless some horrible cross bus