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Post Post #1050 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:36 am

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In post 1049, Abnegation wrote:
In post 1048, meowmeow wrote:
In post 1042, Abnegation wrote: hmm, is giving me a bit of pause on my snivy read.
why
the way that he casually adds himself to the execution pool. it feels out of place with some of the other stuff he's posted today. like, he's been confidently defending his happy townread, pushing his scumreads, openly omgus-voting which i would typically see as self-protective, and now he's just like, "yeah game slow, don't mind consolidating on me." comes across as performative.
In post 1048, meowmeow wrote:pedit: i think iavh and dann are the only people i don't townread, outside of snivy. i thought that would be obvious from the other five paragraphs of that post
maybe it was obvious, but i did not put that together.
i don't like how i worded some of that, should have proof-read before i posted it.
i mean that he's got opinions, he's confident in pushing them, so why is he going to settle for consolidation on himself?
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i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
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Post Post #1051 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:42 am

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ugh why is this game so hard?
Spoiler: need to scream into void
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
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i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.

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Post Post #1052 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:52 am

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In post 1051, Abnegation wrote: ugh why is this game so hard?
Spoiler: need to scream into void
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
i think i will try to come back to this later in the day.
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i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.

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Post Post #1053 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:58 am

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I feel similarly
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Post Post #1054 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:19 am

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the secret is always act like you know what you're doing even when you absolutely don't

no one can know
try as you might, you continue to be yourself.
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Post Post #1055 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:02 pm

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Prodding iamveryhappy (1d 6h). He has (expired on 2023-10-08 21:00:00) to respond in-thread before I seek a replacement.
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Post Post #1056 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 3:09 am

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Day 2 VC #6
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(2): Black (), Aureal ()

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(1): camelCasedSnivy ()

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Post Post #1057 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 4:54 am

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Black, why do you town read Snivy?
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Post Post #1058 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:35 am

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I think there's a world where he's scum and his whole agenda has been to put on this nonchalant townie act with townslips, not paying attention, etc, but some of his posts/interactions and stances have felt genuine enough for me to really doubt this

Talk to me about your Abnegation read
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Post Post #1059 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:50 am

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In post 1051, Abnegation wrote: ugh why is this game so hard?
Spoiler: need to scream into void
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
In post 1053, Dannflor wrote: I feel similarly
In post 1054, meowmeow wrote: the secret is always act like you know what you're doing even when you absolutely don't

no one can know
I think at least one of you is having a hard time for a different reason than myself :lol:
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Post Post #1060 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:54 am

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What's so difficult about this game is that it's very likely that both scum are really good at seeming townie. Scum!Alanis is the exception here
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Post Post #1061 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:00 am

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In post 1054, meowmeow wrote: the secret is always act like you know what you're doing even when you absolutely don't

no one can know
see, that is easier to do when you don't actually have to be right. :lol:
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i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
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but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.

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Post Post #1062 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:00 am

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In post 1060, Black wrote: What's so difficult about this game is that it's very likely that both scum are really good at seeming townie. Scum!Alanis is the exception here
why are we calling him alanis?
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i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
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but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.

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Post Post #1063 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:02 am

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In post 1010, iamveryhappy wrote:
In post 1006, Aureal wrote: Oh no, Snivy set Alianna up for a page top, clearly they're working together! :lol:

I don't even know what to think about Snivy's supposed suspicion of me now, it's so obviously off base that maaaaybe it isn't that likely to be scum. "One thing on the second day" really??

I really don't know where else to look though,
Abnegation and iamveryhappy give me more mixed signals and I just kinda want to townbin the rest of you. :?
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In post 1012, Black wrote:
In post 1010, iamveryhappy wrote:
In post 1006, Aureal wrote: Oh no, Snivy set Alianna up for a page top, clearly they're working together! :lol:

I don't even know what to think about Snivy's supposed suspicion of me now, it's so obviously off base that maaaaybe it isn't that likely to be scum. "One thing on the second day" really??

I really don't know where else to look though,
Abnegation and iamveryhappy give me more mixed signals and I just kinda want to townbin the rest of you. :?
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This is kind of ironic coming from you. Can you please play the game?
In post 1013, Aureal wrote: Was... that comment directed at me? I don't know that 'ironic' is a strong enough word to describe it if so. :o
In post 1014, iamveryhappy wrote: That was very ironic ;)
In post 1015, Aureal wrote: Alright, iamveryhappy shall henceforth be referred to as Alanis.
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Post Post #1064 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:02 am

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Hi Alianna. I hope you're having a good weekend. What's your most confident read atm?
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #1065 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:03 am

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In post 1064, Black wrote: Hi Alianna. I hope you're having a good weekend. What's your most confident read atm?
i townread alianna.
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i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
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to project always outwards
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Post Post #1066 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:04 am

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Post Post #1067 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:05 am

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In post 1065, Abnegation wrote:
In post 1064, Black wrote: Hi Alianna. I hope you're having a good weekend. What's your most confident read atm?
i townread alianna.
What's your second most confident read?
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #1068 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:05 am

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In post 1061, Abnegation wrote:
In post 1054, meowmeow wrote: the secret is always act like you know what you're doing even when you absolutely don't

no one can know
see, that is easier to do when you don't actually have to be right. :lol:
if you're wrong it's someone else's fault and that way you never have to be right
try as you might, you continue to be yourself.
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Post Post #1069 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:06 am

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In post 1067, Black wrote:
In post 1065, Abnegation wrote:
In post 1064, Black wrote: Hi Alianna. I hope you're having a good weekend. What's your most confident read atm?
i townread alianna.
What's your second most confident read?
probably that you're town.
and i've got my doubts about snivy, but i think he's town enough that he at least shouldn't be today's vote.
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Post Post #1070 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:06 am

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i don't think scum snivy has to put on an act to not be paying attention for the most part, tbh
try as you might, you continue to be yourself.
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Post Post #1071 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:08 am

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In post 1068, meowmeow wrote:
In post 1061, Abnegation wrote:
In post 1054, meowmeow wrote: the secret is always act like you know what you're doing even when you absolutely don't

no one can know
see, that is easier to do when you don't actually have to be right. :lol:
if you're wrong it's someone else's fault and that way you never have to be right
lol.
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i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
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but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.

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Post Post #1072 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:10 am

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In post 1070, meowmeow wrote: i don't think scum snivy has to put on an act to not be paying attention for the most part, tbh
That's fair. I would never not pay attention as scum but I also realize projecting my own playstyle onto others isn't the best way to read them. I just feel like scum are more likely to pay attention so Snivy's iso feels like an act if I try to assume the scum motivation behind it
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Post Post #1073 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:15 am

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In post 1020, meowmeow wrote: i think mafia would know the setup, since at the start of the game they get their roles - rb or no rb - and almost always talk about what that means. mafia also need to know for pr hunting. snivy's claims that dumbslips are nai fall kind of flat to me - i think if he wanted to know the setup, it wouldn't be super hard to look rather than post something like , and newd3 does also have tracker + doc. to me it does just like he's trying to be like "i don't know the setup so i'm town" - it just does feel performative to me.

i do also think his confidence on the iavh read is overstated. to give an example of what i mean, since it was being argued earlier - please take a look at this game. i'm publicly an alt of ausuka, to be clear. in this game, i defend enchant a lot on d1, even going so far as to call him 'hard town' and generally like digging into that position. gimli calls me out for this at some point and says my read on enchant is tmi. and he's right - in that game, i genuinely *did* think enchant was pretty towny and the pushes on him were bad and he looked more like his town meta. but given what he had done at that point, there is no way town!me calls him 'hard town' or defends him the way i did in a million years. i wanted to overstate my confidence there because if i soft defended enchant, even though that'd be more realistic, i knew i could be called out for it later. anyway, i do think snivy's confidence and insistence on town iavh is off and he's overplaying it.
these paragraphs are very, very interesting and i think they're probably very ai for meowmeow. i just can't decide which way.
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i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.

- abnegation manifesto
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Post Post #1074 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:23 am

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ughhhh, i probably have to re-read the entire game.
i really don't want to go back through the entire game, but like, WHERE ARE THE SCUMBUCKETS? everybody makes me want to townread them lol.
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i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.

- abnegation manifesto

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