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Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 4:37 pm

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In post 1060, Black wrote: What's so difficult about this game is that it's very likely that both scum are really good at seeming townie. Scum!Alanis is the exception here
this is a really good observation about the gamestate, i think i've said similar in the past but this really sums it up, and it points away from iavh!scum.
subject to change, but if i go by poe right now, midway through trying to figure this game out, it's aureal and dann.
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i will be my undoing if i become my obsession.
i will forget the ones i love if i do not serve them.
i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.

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Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:44 pm

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yeah, aureal's posting about black looks like blatant pocketing and i don't want to ignore that. the meta read is fine, i agree with it, but there's definitely an "omg how could they scumread you???" tone to it and i think aureal could be using that to try to influence black's view on her slot and on the slots she's shading.
i am probably reaching with this next point, but even in the early game before things got too serious, she's still got that tone towards black. makes me think that maybe getting her on aureal's side was the plan.
Spoiler: the early-game quotes being referenced
In post 39, Aureal wrote:
In post 36, T3 wrote: okay then

VOTE: Black
You misspelled CCGeek.
In post 107, Aureal wrote:
In post 96, Dannflor wrote: VOTE: black
Hi, other Mafia person! Done strategizing in your scum PT and ready to pay attention to us now?

i don't think i'm going to put too much weight on her being similar to other games (though i can't recall if she's done the thing i just mentioned before as town, was talking more generally) because i've never seen her as scum outside of multiball where she still has to scumhunt and i don't know how exactly her play would differ.
think this is an okay vote.

VOTE: aureal
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i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
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to project always outwards
until i disappear.

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Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:11 am

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Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:35 am

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Day 2 VC #8
Abnegation
(2): Aureal (), Dannflor ()

Aureal
(1): Abnegation ()

Dannflor
(2): camelCasedSnivy (), Black ()

camelCasedSnivy
(1): meowmeow ()


Not Voting
(1): Freedom


With seven alive, it takes four votes to fade a player.
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Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 6:56 am

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Hi Freedom

Really bad day for me so I don't think I'll be posting much today
I scumread Alianna.

ALL HAIL THE SCUM QUEEN!
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Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:12 am

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In post 1104, Black wrote: Hi Freedom

Really bad day for me so I don't think I'll be posting much today
Hi!
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Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:12 am

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Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:39 pm

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In post 1101, Abnegation wrote: think this is an okay vote.

VOTE: aureal
Cool scum attempt to pivot with a replacement incoming. I give it a 7/10 on the scum scale :thumbsup:
"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
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Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:43 pm

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In post 1105, Freedom wrote:
In post 1104, Black wrote: Hi Freedom

Really bad day for me so I don't think I'll be posting much today
Hi!
hi your slot was an easy towntell but also kinda stubborn can you change that
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Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:44 pm

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wrote that a while ago idk why i didnt post it until now
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Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:02 pm

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ok hear me out
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Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:03 pm

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aureal/abnegation
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Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:03 pm

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is that a thing
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Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:14 pm

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this is another 2 minute read based off nothing but aureal and abnegation’s posting towards each other feeling distant and mechanical


like i can totally imagine abnegation being like “time to initiate push Aureal protocol #0345 as discussed in the Scum PT” and then making

and then Aureal is like “yes time for some Banter with my scum team mate”

idk i haven’t actually gone back to see if there is anything especially clearing about Generic/Aureal but considering my last 5 hour solve lead me to T3/Dunnstral as a solve I feel like this can’t possibly be any worse
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Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:22 pm

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In post 1113, Dannflor wrote: this is another 2 minute read based off nothing but aureal and abnegation’s posting towards each other feeling distant and mechanical

like i can totally imagine abnegation being like “time to initiate push Aureal protocol #0345 as discussed in the Scum PT” and then making

and then Aureal is like “yes time for some Banter with my scum team mate”

idk i haven’t actually gone back to see if there is anything especially clearing about Generic/Aureal but considering my last 5 hour solve lead me to T3/Dunnstral as a solve I feel like this can’t possibly be any worse
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i will war with others if i refuse to see them.
therefore i choose to turn away from my reflection,
to rely not on myself
but on my brothers and sisters,
to project always outwards
until i disappear.

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Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:59 pm

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No, he's helping me with first. :P
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Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:10 pm

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Banter aside though, I asked about who might be a Snivy partner because I feel like Abnegation is notably the most likely. There's been what seems to be fairly real attempts by Dann and meow to push Snivy (and vice versa for him trying to push Dann) so they don't seem likely. Black would be the only other one that seems even close to as likely a prospect and I still maintain my townread on her so still, not likely. And meow covered why Snivy and Freedom's slot would be an odd team, though I don't quite have the same level of confidence there that she does.
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Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:56 pm

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meh i agree snivy/abnegation seems more sane

I don’t know why tho snivy’s tone gets me
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Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:57 am

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Abnegation, how do you feel about a Dannflor vote?
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:03 am

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Prodding meowmeow (1d 19h). They have (expired on 2023-10-11 07:30:00) to respond in-thread before I seek a replacement.
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Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:27 am

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Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:30 am

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i would probably just vote dannflor if this happened a little while ago but i haven't especially liked abnegation's recent activity

she kinda deflected my question into a townread on me which is great and all but not really the topic at hand and did feel a bit like trying too hard not to be 'defensive'

i don't have great confidence in picking out the exact scumteam right now
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Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:38 am

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dannflor is difficult to me

on an intellectual level i still believe the stuff i said about his early game

maybe i should be weighting stuff that happened before i joined the game higher than i am? since none of that was playing to an audience of me

it's also possible that i should be more suspicious of dannflor townreading me? which i don't think he does especially often and particularly as hard as he does here


i have generally agreed with a lot of stuff he has said d2. i think if snivy is scum especially dann isn't like *that* likely to like... vote there in after i case ccs. he should at least be trying to take agency for that push, but since it's a micro i'm not sure dann busses there at all. i guess i like that he was taking what i say seriously which uh may or may not actually be alignment indicative??

i guess just generally his d2 play also feels less scummy because it feels more 'generally lost and directionless' rather than 'master plan dannflor posting lots of wally posts which make people townread him' which is what he was doing d1, and the consequences are predictably that he's getting wagoned. i think scummflor is maybe more likely to be efforting this situation

overall my read on him is like super murky but i'm not sure i want to lim there right now?? at least i do think snivy is better
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Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:41 am

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what do you think of an abnegation elimination today

like how does it compare to a snivy elimination for you
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Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:45 am

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worse

i haven't been a massive abnegation fan recently but i still think some of her earlier posting was towny shrug

a lot of that could have been overthinking but like i do think snivy is just comparatively more likely to flip scum
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