Mini Normal 2314 - The Mafia Have a Cop [END]

[marcistar]

Im so confused ehy does una need to jump on a wagon for an eliminayion then??

[Hu Tao]

I think scum is The Bulge, Dannflor, geraintm

My money is on Dannflor being a traitor out of these so if we want to speedrun this game we don't have to eliminate him, but if it comes down to it then I think letting the slot endgame would be a mistake

VOTE: The Bulge

I'm comfortable voting in there. But I think I prefer Gera

[Hu Tao]

Im so confused ehy does una need to jump on a wagon for an eliminayion then??

Una is probably scum. I've seen scum do the thing where they just have 1 scumread from page 1 and repeat the same thing over and over about it in different ways without making any other advancing read in the game. It makes no sense for them to be taking about wagon for Elim right now, but they are saying it as justification to keep the vote and blend in.

[geraintm]

My money is on Dannflor being a traitor out of these

can you explain how you arrived at this thought

Doesn't need to explain.

It is day 1 and they are 100% right all of the time.

You wanna start self voting now, you've beem caught. I would send this in the scum chat but it is locked....

I think this is an absurd take if you look over jjh’s progression

It was a joke response to them pulling out a signed affidavit of all the instances of them being correct on day 1, nothing more.

[geraintm]

Why is JJh getting heat?

I mean, the most obvious answer is the correct one

A wagon between Dann and Gera seems like right move

VOTE: Gera

I'm surprised you are pushing me so hard, a green flip from me makes you look so much worse and I am not sure why you think I am scum beyond me saying I have you at 90% town which is a huge improvement from 75% I would normally put any random player at.

[Dannflor]

gera what is your reason for having drew at 90% town?

[geraintm]

Oh, what the hell?
Somehow my brain automatically went to the only claimed slot so far = marci.
So we now have a silly softed IC/FN in marci, and a two-player (or more?) hood claimed?

I am working on the assumption Drew is 90% town

I guess one issue is that claiming a hood this early is in many ways similar from the scumsters POV, as getting confirmed VT-slots out of us.
Unless people in the hood can have multiple roles

(DO NOT COMMENT ON THIS OR GIVE THE "RIGHT" ANSWER IN THREAD ANYONE)

scum now have a more refined pool for PR-hunting if they want to take a shot there.

And unless the hoodsters actually make any beneficial progress there, it's not actually "power" to us.

^^^
I had zero intention of outing myself today.

But the complex nature of the game is why I am never going to give Drew a pass, Mod is likely funking with us all somehow

Why is it that gera is assuming you are more likely to be town because you are a neighbour

Why, I don't think mod will not put 2 townies in thr hood together, so that's why.

[geraintm]

"the complex nature of the game" doesn't make a neighbour any more likely to be town or scum

I'm kinda thinking there might be something pretty wild because if the scumteam is a cop, a neighbour, and a traitor. . . well

Yes, that does seem an odd team which is why I didn't have my partner in thr hood as likely to be scum

[geraintm]

Oh, what the hell?
Somehow my brain automatically went to the only claimed slot so far = marci.
So we now have a silly softed IC/FN in marci, and a two-player (or more?) hood claimed?

I am working on the assumption Drew is 90% town

I guess one issue is that claiming a hood this early is in many ways similar from the scumsters POV, as getting confirmed VT-slots out of us.
Unless people in the hood can have multiple roles

(DO NOT COMMENT ON THIS OR GIVE THE "RIGHT" ANSWER IN THREAD ANYONE)

scum now have a more refined pool for PR-hunting if they want to take a shot there.

And unless the hoodsters actually make any beneficial progress there, it's not actually "power" to us.

^^^
I had zero intention of outing myself today.

But the complex nature of the game is why I am never going to give Drew a pass, Mod is likely funking with us all somehow

Why is it that gera is assuming you are more likely to be town because you are a neighbour

Oh, and I think I already mentioned it, but the one thing he said in the Hood was that I was 90% percent town.....which obviously was before D1 even started. That was the first thing to make me say hmmm.

I kinda think if he town read me I would return the favor, for whatever reason.

I was a willing to get to N1 and talk to him more, but most of his posts today have been bad bad, and sometimes

Enchant

Flavor Leaf

Gera is just scum.

My posts in this game have been no different from any other day 1 I've been in, except I have actually confirmed a claim made about me and I have as a standing rule to just not claim day 1

[geraintm]

I think bulge is probably the cop based on gera being a neighbour

That being said I guess we could just do gera

I kinda want to be voted out today just so your perfect day 1 play gets nuked

[geraintm]

I think bulge is probably the cop based on gera being a neighbour

That being said I guess we could just do gera

Why can't gera also be a cop?

You have me as in the neighbourhood, a cop and scum, all at the same time?

[geraintm]

"the complex nature of the game" doesn't make a neighbour any more likely to be town or scum

I'm kinda thinking there might be something pretty wild because if the scumteam is a cop, a neighbour, and a

traitor

. . . well

I honestly dislike this assumption and talk of traitors all over the place. Especially from jjh.
I know it would make more sense of the announced scum!cop, but since this is a complex setup I'm almost certain that a Traitor isn't a given.
I could come up with multiple reasons why not / alternative reasons for the Cop without it being a total red herring.

I'h at least hope we would stop talking about a Traitor as if it's confimed to exist.

I'm pretty sure a traitor exists, but Endless roll speculation day 1 is not helpful to town at all

[Flavor Leaf]

I dont like how everyones ignoring me now smh i thought i was the mc

The lolcat is never the mc, they are the overly obnoxious companion, or a small cute creature companion that warms the heart every time they show up, no in between

[geraintm]

re:the neighbourhood claim

i once ran a large normal with two traitors who were in a hood alone together. i thought it was a fun idea but people were salty in postgame (it was a scum win)

i doubt that's a thing here or else i wouldn't be saying anything to tip the hoodies off but it crossed my mind as we have a confirmed hood + large possibility of a traitor

Again, shhh.
Let's just get through day 1 and then people's night actions can help us narrow down the game

[geraintm]

gera what is your reason for having drew at 90% town?

Base player is 75%
I know I'm town, at the time I made the assumption that the hood would be two townies (mainly because I don't play complex games very often and i didn't get why a mod would stick me and a scum in together) so I raised it to 90% town.

I've probably dropped back down to 75% now because so many of you seem to think the hood could have scum in it

[geraintm]

I am not a very good player at setups, I was being my normal simplistic self during thr pregame. I had time for 1 post I believe before the game started, we didn't have time to chat at all.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think bulge is probably the cop based on gera being a neighbour

That being said I guess we could just do gera

I kinda want to be voted out today just so your perfect day 1 play gets nuked

pretty sure jjh never said they were perfect but keep on living in your own world, we'll be here actually playing the game

[geraintm]

I think bulge is probably the cop based on gera being a neighbour

That being said I guess we could just do gera

I kinda want to be voted out today just so your perfect day 1 play gets nuked

pretty sure jjh never said they were perfect but keep on living in your own world, we'll be here actually playing the game

You are right, I have misrepresented them when I said they were perfect.

They are merely 90%

You got any reads you want to talk about?

Oh none. None at all. It is day 1 and unless my role gave me extra info about someone, then to me you are all equally likely to be town as anyone else.

Would you be willing to humour me if I take you on a journey then? If I were to present some points you could comment on them and at least try and form some opinions.

Day 1 is very important to me as I am inclined to find scum on day 1 and then get nightkillled on night 1

Your overconfidence is aweinspiring

That's regular well curated confidence based on a track record going back years of consistently finding scum on day 1, thank you very much.

Unfortunately you're gonna have to make do with these because none of them are perfect for meta
This would have been one if I hadn't been force replaced due to mod error
This is where I replaced into a completely doomed mafia slot in team mafia for a day phase
I believe this is my most recent full scumgame but it's from 2 years ago

If you'd like some towngames for reference, I did dig up my last 10 towngames (going back 3 years to the day, it looks like) in case I needed to prove to geraintm that accurate day 1 reads exist

Spoiler:

Datisi's University - Number 1 scumread was scum!Wheme, but didn't get the lim day 1. Notably had 3 out of 4 scum in the 4 names in my scumreads. Died n1
Datisi's Cafe - Number 1 scumread was scum!Malakittens. Was fine with the scum!Ircher elim that happened day 1 though as well.
GNG's upick - Number 1 scumread was scum!Gypyx. Lim didn't happen due to a dumb mechanical plan I said wouldn't work, that didn't work.
Superfight mafiaCaught scum day 1. Mafia tried to kill me N1 but due to the mechanics could not
Anything uPickCaught not 1 but 2 scum due to a big old TMI that nobody else believed until we limmed one of them on day 2.
Townstumps mafiaCaught scum day 1. Notably off wagon at eod because I was trying to find more.
Krazy's animal upickCaught scum day 1
Pokemon battlesCaught scum day 1
Cards of destiny mafiaCaught scum day 1
Mystery box of silver 10Did not catch scum day 1. Notably, day 1 lasted 4 and a half days and based on reading my iso I don't think I was caught up

[Nono]

bulge is pretty towny, no?? imo at least
agreeing with their posts, jjh’s confidence, read on predecessor-dan
the last makes me think,, look at scum tao’s posts from last game, tell me they ain’t the same,, the predecessor’s just the icing on the cake
dan’s a good move)

to comment on gera, he’s not really scummy!
towny, eh wouldn’t go that far,, he’s just himself, like me

jjh,, still pending

going out today, good day everyone

[Dannflor]

mmmmm

[jjh927]

Dannflor, I will concede that if gera and bulge do indeed both flip scum like I think they will that Nono might well be that last scum I asked you to find if you were town

[Alisae]

V OTECOUNT 1.9
E LIMINATION V OTES
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES
geraintm (3)	Hu Tao, Doctor Drew, Dannflor
The Bulge (2)	Roden, jjh927
Dannflor (2)	The Bulge, Nono
nono (1)	Gamma Emerald
JacksonVirgo (1)	marcistar
jjh420 (1)	geraintm
Hu Tao (1)	UnaBombaH
Flavor Leaf (1)	JacksonVirgo
NOT VOTING: Flavor Leaf
With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to flip! Deadline: (expired on 2023-10-20 19:33:00)
Notes: if you see any errors in votecounts let me know! FL is V/LA until 10/13

[jjh927]

Absolutely town
marcistar
JacksonVirgo
Nono
Gamma Emerald
Doctor Drew
UnaBombaH
Hu Tao

Town unless I am wrong
Roden
Flavor Leaf

Scum
Dannflor
The Bulge
geraintm

idk if i buy the confidence

i mean im not buying what you're selling because its not the solve but

a refined readslist d1 + scum role distribution, and with 2 inactives in your scumlist? that's a lot of very confident townreads

You are saying that you have read through the whole of the game and you don't buy my level of confidence?

It didn't come out of nowhere. None of this did

[Dannflor]

Dannflor, I will concede that if gera and bulge do indeed both flip scum like I think they will that Nono might well be that last scum I asked you to find if you were town

I'll be honest I've been nursing a conspiracy where you + nono + some third are the team

but after taking a step back from the game I don't think that's as likely anymore

[Dannflor]

I do think you've been overall a bit quick to town bin some slots and the nono read stuck out to me specifically but I think if I'm honest with myself that points more towards town!you being excited to solve the game rather than you power wolfing