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Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 7:23 pm

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In post 1410, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1408, Gamma Emerald wrote: my Dann vote was only to test Hu
So you two are just going to 'test' each other when deadline is fast approaching and someone is about to be hammered?
I just want Drew to be town. I really WANT them to be town.
Which, I guess, is part of the reason why I want Hu Tao flipped today.
I think there's a strong potential for some good association reads to be had.
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Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 7:31 pm

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In post 1436, Firebringer wrote:
@mod consider me V/LA till weekend. I got work stuff to get done
I find it absolutely hilarious to think of the somewhat chaotic and often batshit crazy energy that Firebringer has..and then imagine them working silently and calm like in a library or something. In a funeral home. In a courtroom. :lol:
Somehow this type of "official" declaration (I mean, it was still just "work STUFF", but you know) made me think of this scenario in my head for the first time and it cracks me up for no reason. :lol:
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Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 7:32 pm

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In post 1437, The Bulge wrote: this i do agree with, this game needs a flip. people are getting ahead of themselves, tho i do think the last few pages are still producing potentially valuable info.
I honestly think that the shift from Bulge to Hu Tao was the best thing to happen in this game so far - even considering the to-me-bonkers possibility that Hu Tao is town and Bulge is scum after all.
We should have so much to analyze D2.
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Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 7:37 pm

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Welp, my townlean on Gamma plummeted with that unvote+vote.
Scum!HuTao+Gamma = Town!Drew+Dann. But also, weirdly enough it might mean scum!Bulge after all.
Scum wouldn't go for one of their own as a consolation wagon this close to the EoD, and I think Bulge might've been a doable option for them still if they wanted it.
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Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 7:46 pm

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Now look at me doing premature association reads myself. :lol:
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Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 8:06 pm

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In post 1448, Flavor Leaf wrote: The Dann wagon is really just filled with a bunch of lean scum for me whereas the Hu Tao one I town read most of the wagon, if not all.

Day 1 is neat
What about Drew, what’s your thoughts on voting there?
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Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 8:14 pm

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..but I really really feel like this really ought to have helped us really draw some lines. Really.

Drew and gera claimed to be in a hood together?
In a bananas world where it's scum!Drew there is no hood and people were actually correct about the potential of scum!gera. :lol:

And funnily enough, Hu Tao was the first one (I think) on gera, and was followed by Drew and Dann.
Based on vote counts those were the three on that wagon, in that order.

Meanwhile the biggest wagon so far, the Bulge one, was formed in this order: Roden, jjh927, Flavor Leaf, Gamma Emerald, Dannflor, Firebringer.
The wagon had been on 3/4 for some time, and Dann+FB jumped in on them quite late.
Apparently Hu Tao never actually voted there and only threatened the hammer before backing off?
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Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 9:02 pm

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Do you honestly think there is any chance whatsoever that drew and gera are scum together
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Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:40 pm

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In post 1430, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: Doctor Drew
I don’t really care for the other major wagons so this seems like the most viable choice that I am willing to go with
I am.nwver voting here
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Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:44 pm

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In post 1457, jjh927 wrote: Do you honestly think there is any chance whatsoever that drew and gera are scum together
Well, knowing my alignment I am 100% sure we aren't scum together :)

I also think it is very unlikely they are scum. They may feel different about me, but that is where I am at the moment.
I don't know why they outed our hood on day 1 like they did. They obviously didn't tell me about it before hand. It is not something I would have done today
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Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:46 pm

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In post 1456, UnaBombaH wrote: .

Drew and gera claimed to be in a hood together?
In a bananas world where it's scum!Drew there is no hood and people were actually correct about the potential of scum!gera. :lol:

We would be so easily found out, as soon as one flipped with no Hood in their role the other would be immediately killed
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Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:37 am

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In post 1457, jjh927 wrote: Do you honestly think there is any chance whatsoever that drew and gera are scum together
Small-ish. :]
I think I used the quite official term "bananas world". :lol:
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Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:44 am

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I think the bugle x tao theory is the dumbest thing ive seen this game
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Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:45 am

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Im not 100% sure about drew. I dont know what to place him?
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Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:02 am

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In post 1462, marcistar wrote: I think the bugle x tao theory is the dumbest thing ive seen this game
You claimed "~a PR with the ability to clear myself" without a solid reason, reasoning or exact parameters. :]
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Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:06 am

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I was on my period and emotional...
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Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:45 am

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Ok, now that is an unfair way to make ME look like the jerk and an idiot. -_-'

So I guess people should disregard #1464.
And sorry if that came across more rude than necessary.
Was trying to be at least a little bit funny with a hint of cheekiness.
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Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:57 am

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In post 1448, Flavor Leaf wrote: The Dann wagon is really just filled with a bunch of lean scum for me whereas the Hu Tao one I town read most of the wagon, if not all.

Day 1 is neat
unfortunately i am also not loving the company over here.

the solution of course is more votes on dann. everyone bring a friend!
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Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:17 am

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In post 1449, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 1391, Hu Tao wrote: I can somewhat understand flavor thinking maybe I'm saving partner bulge in the event say I was traitor and he was scum pr. That's a possibility (still not a right play in my opinion but arguable). But with 2 days left it makes no sense for scum to save some random town at E-1 when the counter could go on a partner or self.
Unless you felt safe in the sense that I was literally the only pushing for you.
Meaning your partner is a slot that is rather universally townread and outside of the radar..or perhaps a slot that has claimed a vague "will be cleared tomorrow PR"? :]
There are scenarios here where scum!HuTao might go for the extra sauce on their towncred after those posts from Bulge at L-1.
I'm not as sold on the theory of you being teammates with Bulge, but that is the outlying possibility, and would be a more "simple reason" for your reaction.

Either way, there's no value to be gained from association reads/speculation before the flip actually occurs.
Too much mental gymnastics just to justify a reason to make me scummy :lol:
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Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:18 am

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In post 1448, Flavor Leaf wrote: The Dann wagon is really just filled with a bunch of lean scum for me whereas the Hu Tao one I town read most of the wagon, if not all.

Day 1 is neat
Will you vote drew? Also is una known for tunneling as town?
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Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:18 am

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In post 1450, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 1410, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1408, Gamma Emerald wrote: my Dann vote was only to test Hu
So you two are just going to 'test' each other when deadline is fast approaching and someone is about to be hammered?
I just want Drew to be town. I really WANT them to be town.
Which, I guess, is part of the reason why I want Hu Tao flipped today.
I think there's a strong potential for some good association reads to be had.
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Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:24 am

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In post 1457, jjh927 wrote: Do you honestly think there is any chance whatsoever that drew and gera are scum together
Are you willing to vote Dann or drew?
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Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:26 am

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In post 1462, marcistar wrote: I think the bugle x tao theory is the dumbest thing ive seen this game
Are you willing to vote Dan or drew?
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Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:59 am

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i thought it might be interesting to have a look at what kind of analysis everyone was committing to the thread at an obviously pivotal point in the early game that is sure to be revisited and scrutinized at length in future days. this will probably be more useful for everyone else after some flips but here's what i found, in order of who was willing to the say the most to the least following the dissolution of my e-1 wagon.

the fearless tier

una gave by far the most in terms of analysis and stream-of-consciousness reactions to the wagon switch, clearly not overly careful about how their takes would be received. gave reads on both myself and hu tao, interacted with both of us and with other players, threw out some theories, and was open to other d1 options than just the leading wagons.


the stakeholder tier

gamma interacted with me briefly when i was on the chopping block, questioned others about their thoughts on the situation, provided an associative read between myself and hu tao, and interacted extensively with hu.

drew stayed mostly on the outskirts of discussion but i think that could just be his style of play. he was still offering theories regarding the situation, and explaining what his thought process was while reading along.

flavor leaf gave updated reads on myself and hu tao, including an associative read. he stuck around the thread but was mostly distracted with some self-defense.

nono only made one post following the events in question but it read to me like an in-the-moment honest reaction to the discussion.

marci's only contribution to the discussion was a rather shallow reaction but a reaction nonetheless.


the "i'm here!" tier

dann updated his read on me but offered no analysis of the situation and immediately moved onto other things. the timing of is a little off to me, it provides no original analysis, only a reaction to other players' theories.

roden didn't offer much analysis, hopped onto hu tao over something tangentially related to the wagon switch, and then hopped back to me. surface-level posting without getting his hands dirty, comes across as opportunistic

jjh mostly complained about my wagon falling apart and voiced their non-support of the hu tao wagon, but as an aside with no comment on any of the events that transpired. no analysis of the wagon dissolution, and no thoughts on hu tao directly, only shading fl


the forgot my reading glasses tier

firebringer did not react to any of the events but continued to somewhat interact with the thread.

i am not convinced that geraintm is even reading the game or if they are just searching "gera" and responding to those posts.
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Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:03 am

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Good post :lol: so true

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