Catch up (sorry for quoting posts out of order, I am not sure how I did that. Either my brain or my computer is fried)
In post 406, Aureal wrote:
Are we
still
talking about Kitty's easy read of people not being partnered? Do people actually think he won't do that as town because
he sure does.
Agenda'd opinion: Drew and Dragon are definitely scum together because that first read of people not being paired was exactly the scum pair
Lol I also noticed that
In post 413, Doctor Drew wrote:
Hi *waves*
You didn't ask about Yess lol, but I don't get how they can say they are an expert at reading me. By my counts we have played two games together, I was scum in one and town the other(yess was the opposite alignment both times). And they were way less engaged when I was town(even though we shared a hood). If anything I should be the expert at reading him since I called him scum that game basically right off the bat(but I am not that arrogant lol).
As far as RC, the aforementioned scum game RC was my buddy. Like I said it is gut, but they seem less calculated here as in the scum game. It isn't a a solid read since I have had trouble correctly reading him in the past, but was just my first instinct to say they are town here. I also don't like when people pile on someone super early in a game, especially for a reason I didn't see.
Also I will stand by my belief that no way Alianna let's RC be scum in a game modded by here lol.
Pre Edit: Ya but they also could just be setting up some pocketing. Especially you just said you, and many others, have trouble making a fake scum read seem legit.
Why are you so adamant the mod would be blatantly breaking site rules???
I'm sorry what? Yess is obvtown
In post 419, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 418, Aisa wrote:
I am going to very tentatively propose a collaboration. Where do you think I should put my vote?
That is a lot of responsibility lol.
I like the vote on Cele, part of me wants to get votes on Enchant to see if that actually start using their words.
I don't like this post, it feels like a wolf looking for easy lim paths.
In post 503, Aureal wrote:
I kinda want to vote Drew. But that would mean moving my vote off RCE and that would make me sad.
I agree unvoting RCE is bad
*hides the fact that I did that some pages ago*
In post 518, RCEnigma wrote:
To go full FL for a second.
Approaching this game in my head. I know that you know as scum I approached you both times as a mislim option. But also that you were keen on my scum play both times. So if I played like you were shining town from the jump and you were town you would be suspicious of it. Because I’d 100% flip the script as scum.
I considered scum you would play into it, because as scum you would recognize I was angling. So here we are.
Also maybe you weren’t playing in this mind game with me and I fabricated it all myself but I’d like to think we had this back and forth without really saying it.
That is a good FL impression but tbh I have no idea what you are trying to say here. Are you saying that Aureal is town because she didn't notice you are scummy? Or what?
LOL
In post 478, Celebloki wrote:
This game has gotten weird for me. I still get town vibes from Drew and Yes, so their recent exchange to me is just...
I read a bit through Over Easy and I don't think I'm seeing that Drew here.
Also reading a bit through that game Aureal posted, I've lost my slight town read on Enchant. They're whole read on Kitty seems to be how Kitty opened this game, but Enchant replaced into scum in that other game that Kitty opened the same way as town. Plus at this point the emoji post restriction is just coming off more as trying to lay low than being a townie thing.
I think there could be scum between Snivy and Dragon. I can't parse out the back and forth between RC and Yes either, maybe Yes's conversations with people just confuse me. My admittedly flimsy excuse to wagon on RC was just a way for me to try and get myself out of RVS and I didn't believe in the kitty wagon that was happening at the time. And since I don't take much credence in Enchant's reads anymore I'll go ahead and
UNVOTE: RCEnigma
I'm going to try and do some more background reading today...
Not liking this post too much, feels too afraid to give opinions.
In post 484, Celebloki wrote:
I think the biggest problem for me has been how much everyone has been talking about everyone elses meta in this game:
"I played X games with Richard_Baggs recently and he was blank and I totally read him as smurfy here"
" clever_name always does this as town"
etc.
I feel like I have to go read everyone's games now so I can understand all the meta reads lol. I feel like when I used to play meta wasn't talked about as much.
In post 486, Celebloki wrote:
My whole day today while avoiding work has been spent finding Town and Scum games of people and trying to spot the difference in their ISOs and interactions. And I'll admit it hasn't gotten me very far yet, granted I've only read a few games so far.
Meh, these do sound genuine. IDK if it's town though because I did the same thing as scum before, but then it was a deliberate attempt to copy my town meta which is known for ISO diving (I think at least) and meta diving (maybe? IDK why I actually thought that it would be good to do it as scum - sorry, I'm rambling...)
In post 492, Celebloki wrote:
In post 489, Aisa wrote:
Yeah, meta is all the rage these days! I can definitely see that being annoying
What about the non-meta arguments people are making? e.g. just off the top of my head I remember
this post which doesn't make any meta arguments. Have you had any success getting reads from posts such as that one?
To be honest I don't think this post adds much. He corrects this post himself after re-reading Dragon. I have found Dragon to be rather fickle so far, but no one in this game seems to have any solid reads either. This was another statement I skimmed because he mentions that Dragon talks in a very surehanded way, but then others were talking earlier about how Dragon seems different this game and Dragon himself says he's trying to play different and be more confident. This became another post where I decided, "Ok, I guess I need to go read some people".
If anything after this post and doing some ISO reading I decided I didn't at least think RC was scum. Null at best. I also felt the wagon wasn't going anywhere, wasn't going to give any useful info on anyone else. I'm confused why he thinks I was getting shade for sheeping Enchant, I think people just hated my flimsy reasoning. I mainly wanted to try a counter wagon at Dragon's behest and I hate the idea of just voting with no excuse, so I hobbled one together.
I am not fully sure how you got to RC not being scum? And what do you mean you wanted a counter wagon at my behest? I don't fully get your meaning here.
In post 497, biancospino wrote:
In post 492, Celebloki wrote:
I'm confused why he thinks I was getting shade for sheeping Enchant, I think people just hated my flimsy reasoning. I mainly wanted to try a counter wagon at Dragon's behest and I hate the idea of just voting with no excuse, so I hobbled one together.
eh, your flimsy reasoning was indeed in justification of an Enchant sheep in
150,
176, which is what you was shaded by DE in
179.
RC's
343 was at least a little disingenous in that regard, you framed your sheep in a different enough way from what DE has been doing that frankly they are not analogous behaviours.
UNVOTE: Drew
Anyway, atm I hold that yes, Aisa, Enchant are town. DE, cCS I also do feel +t, thou there is something that is bugging me about them which I can't really put my fingers on; most likely not going to vote there today.
This Aureal wagon is fine I guess, but frankly it's so nullish that it's hardly less of a shot in the dark then Not_Mafia
I do agree RC comes off as disingenuous in that post, that's why I've been saying that read sounds fabricated.
In post 499, yessiree wrote:
Aureal wagon doesn't tickle my brain at this point
and Drew should trust me more instead of being paranoid cuz if he's town here I will correctly read that too
UNVOTE:
biancospino, Enchant
DragonEater70, Aisa
Celebloki, Doctor Drew
camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub
RCEnigma, Aureal
KittyTacky, Not_Mafia
Explain reads on NM and Kitty? I have NM as literally null and kitty I honestly forgot about right now, but I'm not understanding how he's your second best scumread.
In post 524, Doctor Drew wrote:
No, after I said that......like literally right after the post of mine you quoted.....Aisa said she had some issues with Aureal.
That initially gave me some paranoia about Aisa since she quickly jumped on Aureal, but then saw we had like 3 days till deadline at that point so could see how this plays out.
And apparently it played out to me being scum?
And all because Dragon had a weird way if reading one of my posts......so Dragon and Drew must be buddies!!
And especially coming from some people I have played a bunch of games with, and the one person who looked at my most recent scum game(over easy) and saw differences here in my play, yet two of the three people here from that very game.....still think I am scum......boggles my mind they can have that takeaway.
Sorry, been busy at work and just needed to vent a bit before I am limmed.
Btw, I am VT.....just to get that out of the way.
What?
Aureal said we're scum together as a joke. Are you serious???
Also I really don't like your complaining about how people think you are scum instead of doing something towny, like, idk, not voting Yess?
As if I care about being part of your scumblock
