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Post Post #2000 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:42 pm

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That’s like How To Fake Claim With Loyal 101
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Post Post #2001 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:43 pm

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In post 1997, Roden wrote:
In post 1995, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1988, Firebringer wrote: i guess possibility both drew and marci scum together but thats kind of bold for marci
Marci can be scum and Drew can be town too.

I’m assuming I’m missing something if I’m the only one not seeing this weird, and I’m trying to find that link I’m missing, but from my pov, y’all wildin right now
It's not just you

Kinda shocked that anyone is buying it at all tbh

Drew i think could be pocketed because they get town cleared, so half wanting it to be pure.

FB, idk what’s going on there.

Marci is playing dumb.
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Post Post #2002 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:44 pm

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ok then why would scum!me choose drew out of everyone? why not someone with a better ability to sway and someone more townie to pocket?
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Post Post #2003 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:45 pm

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In post 1993, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1983, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1978, Flavor Leaf wrote: Loyal Neighborizer doesn’t confirm Marci, it confirms the other player.

Could be scum neighborizer claiming Loyal.

I think I’m semi okay with the claim, though, and I will sit back today.
I keep going back and forth on this, the message I received highly suggested they were loyal though.

But still.....some questions I do have about the presentation of it all.

Peter Edit: Did you crumb at all D1 that you would target me?
The message did not come from Marci if they are claiming Loyal Neighborizer.

So i don’t know why you’re trying to combine those 2.

Why would another player know you were to be confirmed through Marcistar, and why are you not questioning how that’s happening?

Am I missing something?

What did your message say?
Said it comes from a Mailman, says that they can deduce the alignment of others, says that by dawn it will be clear what my alignment is, and sometimes silence speaks loudly.

I took that as being loyal.....but also Marci said the message came from someone else.

So which one is loyal?

Pre Edit: I don't fully buy everything, but I also have the luxury of having the message.

But the third party in question(the mailman) is throwing me for a loop.
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Post Post #2004 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:45 pm

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I think FB is probably scum here.

@Hu Tao - The game where I was Miller, FB did the same thing where they backed my read up and let me drive.

I always town read FB in those situations. I don’t generally push FB, but that’s where I’m at right now.

I need Drew to claim what the message was.
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Post Post #2005 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:46 pm

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In post 2001, Flavor Leaf wrote:

Drew i think could be pocketed because they get town cleared, so half wanting it to be pure.

FB, idk what’s going on there.

Marci is playing dumb.
im not playing dumb? im legit confused how this doesnt clear me..
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Post Post #2006 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:46 pm

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In post 2002, marcistar wrote: ok then why would scum!me choose drew out of everyone? why not someone with a better ability to sway and someone more townie to pocket?
WIFOM

Drew’s a perfectly fine candidate.
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Post Post #2007 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:46 pm

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In post 2005, marcistar wrote:
In post 2001, Flavor Leaf wrote:

Drew i think could be pocketed because they get town cleared, so half wanting it to be pure.

FB, idk what’s going on there.

Marci is playing dumb.
im not playing dumb? im legit confused how this doesnt clear me..
Why can’t you be scum Neighborizer here from an outside POV?
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Post Post #2008 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:47 pm

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In post 2007, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2005, marcistar wrote:
In post 2001, Flavor Leaf wrote:

Drew i think could be pocketed because they get town cleared, so half wanting it to be pure.

FB, idk what’s going on there.

Marci is playing dumb.
im not playing dumb? im legit confused how this doesnt clear me..
Why can’t you be scum Neighborizer here from an outside POV?
because im loyal?
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Post Post #2009 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:48 pm

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In post 2006, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2002, marcistar wrote: ok then why would scum!me choose drew out of everyone? why not someone with a better ability to sway and someone more townie to pocket?
WIFOM

Drew’s a perfectly fine candidate.
how is he a fine candidate if he cant even defend me? lol

as scum would i want someone who can defend me well?
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Post Post #2010 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:48 pm

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Like I’m not certain you’re scum or anything here Marci, I can see you doing this as an actual Loyal Neighborizer in some worlds, but how is anyone not you supposed to see you as not possibly Scum Neighborizer acting like you’re Town Loyal Neighborizer?

This does not confirm you at all, which is why it’s weird you’re acting like it does
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Post Post #2011 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:49 pm

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In post 2010, Flavor Leaf wrote: Like I’m not certain you’re scum or anything here Marci, I can see you doing this as an actual Loyal Neighborizer in some worlds, but how is anyone not you supposed to see you as not possibly Scum Neighborizer acting like you’re Town Loyal Neighborizer?

This does not confirm you at all, which is why it’s weird you’re acting like it does
can you explain how it doesnt confirm me pls

cuz right here it says loyal

i dont understand your points because i literally am loyal it says in my role dm
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Post Post #2012 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:50 pm

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I don’t see where it says Loyal

Where is it?
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Post Post #2013 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:50 pm

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my role dm

also ive said many times
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Post Post #2014 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:51 pm

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All I see is a claimed neighborhood being created?

Where’s the Loyal in a place where I can see it?

Role PM confirms it TO YOU.

How is it supposed to confirm to us?
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Post Post #2015 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:52 pm

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You promised your role would be confirmed, in the future tense.

From your pov, you were already confirmed in the past with that logic.
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Post Post #2016 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:52 pm

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In post 2004, Flavor Leaf wrote: I think FB is probably scum here.

@Hu Tao - The game where I was Miller, FB did the same thing where they backed my read up and let me drive.

I always town read FB in those situations. I don’t generally push FB, but that’s where I’m at right now.

I need Drew to claim what the message was.
i always let u do ur own thing and i do my own thing.
i tell u when ur wrong when im town and let u fuck up when im scum

i don't think theres point in pushing marci today given roles and yeah marci claiming confirmed day 1 is dumb
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Post Post #2017 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:53 pm

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i think marci targetting drew to clear him makes the most sense as that is what i would have done
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Post Post #2018 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:54 pm

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In post 2016, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2004, Flavor Leaf wrote: I think FB is probably scum here.

@Hu Tao - The game where I was Miller, FB did the same thing where they backed my read up and let me drive.

I always town read FB in those situations. I don’t generally push FB, but that’s where I’m at right now.

I need Drew to claim what the message was.
i always let u do ur own thing and i do my own thing.
i tell u when ur wrong when im town and let u fuck up when im scum

i don't think theres point in pushing marci today given roles and yeah marci claiming confirmed day 1 is dumb

And i usually accept it when you do.

You are in the wrong on this one. Marci 100% should be pressured right now.

I’m not saying we fade them here, but their logic is straight up wrong here.
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Post Post #2019 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:54 pm

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In post 2014, Flavor Leaf wrote: All I see is a claimed neighborhood being created?

Where’s the Loyal in a place where I can see it?

Role PM confirms it TO YOU.

How is it supposed to confirm to us?
bro do u want to see my role dm or sum :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: im not a cheater

i think itll prove itself after i neighbourize again for sure, whether i confirm town another person, or i catch a scum. how would it not confirm itself by then? a 2nd person knowing its true is too much to be liar
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Post Post #2020 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:54 pm

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In post 2017, Firebringer wrote: i think marci targetting drew to clear him makes the most sense as that is what i would have done
So you are saying, a scum neighborizer who would want to have a logical target would target Drew?

Interesting.
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Post Post #2021 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:55 pm

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In post 2019, marcistar wrote:
In post 2014, Flavor Leaf wrote: All I see is a claimed neighborhood being created?

Where’s the Loyal in a place where I can see it?

Role PM confirms it TO YOU.

How is it supposed to confirm to us?
bro do u want to see my role dm or sum :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: im not a cheater

i think itll prove itself after i neighbourize again for sure, whether i confirm town another person, or i catch a scum. how would it not confirm itself by then? a 2nd person knowing its true is too much to be liar
Because if you’re scum, you just push a guilty tomorrow :lol:
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Post Post #2022 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:55 pm

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And then you survive from Day 1 all the way to Day 4 after being heavily speculated.
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Post Post #2023 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:56 pm

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In post 2021, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2019, marcistar wrote:
In post 2014, Flavor Leaf wrote: All I see is a claimed neighborhood being created?

Where’s the Loyal in a place where I can see it?

Role PM confirms it TO YOU.

How is it supposed to confirm to us?
bro do u want to see my role dm or sum :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead: im not a cheater

i think itll prove itself after i neighbourize again for sure, whether i confirm town another person, or i catch a scum. how would it not confirm itself by then? a 2nd person knowing its true is too much to be liar
Because if you’re scum, you just push a guilty tomorrow :lol:
im confused wouldnt that just make me die d3?
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Post Post #2024 (ISO) » Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:58 pm

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I think it’s Mass Claim time.

@Hu Tao/Drew/Geraint - I tried doing this last game with us, and it got pushed aside where if we had, town would have been in a much better spot.

With Marco as a claimed Loyal Neighborizer, they can confirm townies, so it’s dangerous for scum to keep them alive.

This gives complete defense against all other claims, and we can play with a full puzzle.

This being said, I think we fade Marcistar TOMORROW, no matter if she successfully neighborizes or not to confirm if her results are trustworthy and to not let them slip through cracks.

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