Breadscum: It's over!!!!!

[ShadowGirl]

I don't know if you can clarify this or not (if it would give anything away), but is the role type informative and investigative different?

[Jahudo]

I remember Hybris crumbing early on but I didn't catch any from animorph.

Do I have to get them both right in the same post for it to count?

No.

is the role type informative and investigative different?

No, i'm using them synonymously.

[animorpherv1]

La Kukaracha, La Kukaracha, you people must gues sharder now, La Kukaracha, La Kukaracha, peoples houeses where I go

[ShadowGirl]

I think Ani is a town watcher.

[animorpherv1]

no.

Newspaper....

[ShadowGirl]

I think Hybris is a hobo. ... Don't ask.

Newspaper? But reporter was already guessed?

[animorpherv1]

woops. missed it.

[ShadowGirl]

I think Ani is a town reporter? (Though, Poker already got it.)

I was about to say neighbourhood watch - I was running out of ideas.

[dahill1]

Ok guys, I think I can still win this one..

[ShadowGirl]

I think Hybris is a thief.

Though I absolutely swear he's a hobo. I would stake money on it. And if I won I would give it to him.

[Jahudo]

Status: Game Over

PokerFace

guesses:
1: animorph watcher - incorrect
1: Hybris paranoid cop - incorrect
2:

animorph reporter - CORRECT!!!

2: Hybris lie detector - incorrect

ShadowGirl

guesses:
1: animorph watcher - incorrect
1:

Hybris hobo - CORRECT!!!

2:

animorph reporter - CORRECT!!!

PokerFace gets 1 point for guessing animorph without animorph help
ShadowGirl gets 1 point for guessing Hybris

ShadowGirl beats PokerFace 36-35

ShadowGirl wins!!!

[ShadowGirl]

-gives money to Hybris-

Thank you history class and being in the mindset of the Great Depression!

Thank you Jahudo for modding this game and waiting for my guesses. I'm so terribly sorry I didn't send them in on time.

[Jahudo]

The Roles:

Animorph is the town reporter
chenhsi is 3rd party arsonist (SK)
mykonian is scum bomb
Zazier is scum roleblocker (dancer)
crywolf is vanilla town
farside is town quack doc (naive)
urielzyx is vanilla town
Sylon is town army veteran (compulsive Vig)
Hybris is town hobo
Pesco47 is town politician
charter is 3rd party cult leader
ShadowGirl is town miller
PokerFace is town lover (with charter, not reciprocal)

# of Times Guessed

animorph - guessed by 1 person (PokerFace)
chenhsi - guessed by 4 (urielzyx, Sylon, Hybris, PokerFace)
mykonian - guessed by 2 (Zazier, ShadowGirl)
Zazier - guessed by 5 (chenhsi, mykonian, Pesco, ShadowGirl, PokerFace)
crywolf - guessed by 2 (PokerFace, ShadowGirl)
farside - guessed by 2 (PokerFace, ShadowGirl)
urielzyx - guessed by 2 (Hybris, PokerFace)
Sylon - guessed by 1 (mykonian)
Hybris - guessed by 1 (ShadowGirl)
Pesco - guessed by 3 (Sylon, ShadowGirl, mykonian)
charter - guessed by 2 (Sylon, ShadowGirl)
ShadowGirl - guessed by 1 (mykonian)
PokerFace - guessed by 1 (Sylon)
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# Correct Guesses by person:

ShadowGirl - 7 correct guesses
PokerFace - 6 correct guesses
Sylon - 4 correct guesses
mykonian - 4 correct guesses
Hybris - 2 correct guesses
Pesco - 1 correct guess
chenhsi - 1 correct guess
Zazier - 1 correct guess
urielzyx - 1 correct guess

[Jahudo]

Thoughts:

I guess there was a game breaking strategy to guess everyone as town one day, then the remaining scum as SK or mafia the next, but there was some trial and error to get from scum killing to scum bomb, etc.

charter had everyone confused for several days. The top guess was jester but others were all over the place: mafia, town, village idiot, doctor, day kill.

Farside originally thought she was a doctor that killed people she targeted, but I had put her down as naive doc. So that's why some people thought she was a killing role or scum

I am a man of the city and I have a right to vote. I Vote Hybris. (Voter registration weekend coming up for me).

I thought people would get that right away.

I hope he has a good regime for the poor.

This too.

Trows dynamite at Ani. Try to survive this!

And this!

Charter truly kicks ass. Roles that kill are my favorite. My role is so empty, it leaves me wanting.

I was hoping that PF would start saying some funny stuff about charter just to freak him out.

Did anyone get my crumb from this post as urielzyx?

Hey it's me, Urielzyx.

Votes are pretty much useless in this game but I've been getting a scum vibe from charter so vote: charter. Animorph, pesco, shadowgirl and Pokerface look pretty townish to me but the rest, I don't know. Nobody seems to be too obvious about their breadcrumbs unless they're using WIFOM.

I don't know what these uncommon roles could be for hybris and animorph but if I had to guess, this game is not very balanced; Like everybody has a PR just to make the crumbs more interesting but the noob mod forgot to balance or something. Let's get some more posting though, I feel like the scum have been able to take over this game by lurking. And people who aren't voting, have you found scum yet because you should start voting them (so the rest of us know what to guess tonight).

Guessing everybody as town the first night and everyone as cop the second hasn't helped me out as much as it should of, I think.

And it wasn't V-I-G

[ShadowGirl]

I got Pesco and myko pretty much right away.

I though farside was the SK on night one. o_O

I never seemed to think long enough to get chensi. I got third party, guessed something way off the next one (I guessed his alignment as some town role...) and then thought he was a jester the next one... even though I knew he was a killing role. ...

More thoughts on this game when I think of them.

[ShadowGirl]

Bah, trying to trick me, Jahudo, eh?

[PokerFace]

What's a hobo? I've never heard of such a role. Is that really in the wiki? It figures, I loose because of something I didn't know of. Oh well. GG Shadow girl. Congrats on your win. good job.

PS. my next guess for charter was cult leader since he kinda acted like he recruited chenshi at the start of day 2. I think I may have second guessed myself a little much in this game.

And yes your crumb as uriel was the only crumb I ever figured out from him. You hinted at uriel and crywolf being both common roles, so I put 2 and 2 together there. I could tell farside first thought she could kill and then thought she couldn't. Guessed killer cop followed by the naive doc. It figures I'd miss myko. Where did Shadowgirl say she was a miller? Chenshi's was easy once I learned he wasn't town or mafia so I just picked my favorite SK variant.

Also to clarify what do you mean by polititian? There are actually a couple of different versions of that role and i think that might have thrown me off.

[PokerFace]

Pesco confused me because she said man of the people that could vote. I thought she was claiming Vanilla and the way Jahudo put my point total there confused me into thinking i got it all right then on day 1. When he wrote it differently on night 2 I realized he meant I didn't get it right and pretty much wasted a guess saying the same thing i said on night 1 for pesco's role

Zazy's day block gave her away once i saw it sober on night 3. I looked in the wrong posts for myko. Second guessed over myko's because i didn't think he would make it that easy. I thought sylon was a bomb or a supersaint since he said not crumbing as his role would be trouble. My next guess would have been paranoid gun owner but he was just a vig that had to kill every night compulsivly. I was so close when i just said vig on night 3. I knew I should have gone a step further with that.

[ShadowGirl]

First: Myko, how'd you guess my role?
Then I'll explain my crumbs. They weren't... like what most of you did.

Good game everyone! Good job to you to as well, Pokerface - I realized that I needed to get at least one right to be guaranteed a win.

I found hobo via wiki by looking at the roles page and then going to some page that showed the category of them, and then to the info ones.

[PokerFace]

Yay i just went to look at the wiki. I have seen that role before after all but under a different name. I play on irc alot and there is a role called

Cheater

. A cheater gets various different hints during the night.

Action cheaters here about one random actions like there was and altercation between blank about blank

Role cheater are told a random role that exists in play but not who the role belongs to. It is most common version and sometimes just called Cheater instead of the long version Role Cheater. Once you learn every role that exists, mass claim for the win to out the scum .

And Grave Robber is a cheater variant that learns the role of a dead person when its non-reveal.

I was so close but got thrown for loops on pesco, charter, hybris and myko. Got animorph by pur process of elimination. Never had any idea shadowgirl was a miller. I think I know where she crumbed based on which of here posts had actual paragraphs but I still don't see it. and myko went and capitalized the A in pages throwing me off big time. Went with godfather on him and goon when the dynamite was right infront of me.

I learned mafia via irc before I came to this site. The different names are all pretty cool like learning a new language.

Show me the crumb when you get the chance shadow. And jahudo which politian variant was pesco?

[ShadowGirl]

M

y, how this game is certainly becoming exciting within the first few posts. It should be interesting if I pick up on the breadcrumbs since I've seldom played in games with them.

DAYKILL SHADOWGIRL

I

seem to be shot a lot these days. ;P

L

ots of fun trying to think of how to breadcrumb. I've probably missed out on other people's... Well, if I don't die that means that charter isn't a dayvig.

L

o and behold: I have not 'died' yet, so I accuse you, charter, of lying!

E

dited: I feel robbed. You've let me down charter.

Vote: charter

R

ight. Bah, such a shame I can't breadcrumb to save my life. x_x

(And super sneaky one... I tried...) >

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assively... Lost or ridiculous. Well, that strategy seems good enough, I suppose. Though, it seems that would take a few nights?

Mad emoticon, Idea emoticon, Laughing, Laughing, Exclamation, Roll.

[Jahudo]

Also to clarify what do you mean by polititian?

Not the governor type but the one that buys a vote at night. (vote affecting type) Politician Wiki.

And Hobo was listed under informative roles but I wouldn't be surprised if it's never used on MS. Informative roles Wiki

I thought she was claiming Vanilla and the way Jahudo put my point total there confused me into thinking i got it all right then on day 1

Yeah sorry, I could've made that more clear. Somewhere around night 2 I tried to say how many points each guess was worth and what wasn't right about it if it wasn't clear.

Cunning? Useless? Lying?
These are just a few of the words I was going for this game.

C-U-L-T

[ShadowGirl]

I think it was the comment where he said it was too late for town that made me realize he was cult.

[Jahudo]

Mad emoticon, Idea emoticon, Laughing, Laughing, Exclamation, Roll.

Wow. That belongs in a brain teaser forum I sometimes troll. And it works perfect for Miller, a role that should be known. If that was the extent of one post in a real game maybe some people would have questioned it.

[PokerFace]

Son of a bitch. I can't believe i missed that cult crumb. Or that first post letter miller one. No way in hell would I have ever gotten the emoticon one. Pure genius and best breadcrumb ever right there. Your crumbing was in each post instead of just the one with all the periods. I got tricked. Damn it was right there!

Where did i crumb my role you ask? Why else would i have wanted you all to lynch charter last of all scumo's. You all kicking yourself now? I crumbed my love for charter a bunch of times while figuring he was scum but not the right type. I was in love with the cult recruiter. If this was a real mafia game I'd be calling bastard mod on that. epicly hilarious.

Though jahudo the crumb you quoted there was not something i did on purpose. Pie's laws I follow since they revear vigs. I would have defended charter just like that even if i wasn't his lover. and some people know this because of my own meta about viggery. I am an awesome vig whenever I get that role. I have highest kill scum percentage as vig on irc. Give me a gun and let me go to town.

And if any of you want to know the vig laws "Pie is good" told me just let me know. There good ways to manage and control things when vig or playing with vigs. later all and gg all especially to shadow girl.