Shaddow was probably a vig shot since he was the leading wagon D1 before Titus got modkilledIn post 998, Taly wrote: too amped to meme
anyone want to give me their POV on thedunn/titus/shaddoweztrio?
and they're votingIn post 997, Black wrote: Hi
I still want to fade Roden. I don't think he has done anything particularly townie and two dead townies thought he was scum
Not the strongest case ever but here we are
do yuo think theIn post 1000, Black wrote:Shaddow was probably a vig shot since he was the leading wagon D1 before Titus got modkilledIn post 998, Taly wrote: too amped to meme
anyone want to give me their POV on thedunn/titus/shaddoweztrio?
No clue why Dunn got killed but he was one of the few people that suspected Roden so there's that
It could have been to mislead, sure. I can see Roden coming in saying something like "why would I kill someone that suspected me" though, so it's hard to tellIn post 1002, Taly wrote: UNVOTE:
pedit
do yuo think theIn post 1000, Black wrote:Shaddow was probably a vig shot since he was the leading wagon D1 before Titus got modkilledIn post 998, Taly wrote: too amped to meme
anyone want to give me their POV on thedunn/titus/shaddoweztrio?
No clue why Dunn got killed but he was one of the few people that suspected Roden so there's thatdunnNK was meant to mislead, or what other purpose comes to mind?
i dont think leading wagon is too substantial, ill have to ISOshaddowezto understand why he was suspected.
you get the next best thingIn post 971, gob wrote: Im so bored someone come & solve with me. Even you pisskop
im honestly reading this game from page 40 and going backward unless someone explicitly beckons me otherwiseIn post 1003, Black wrote: I was leaning town on Drew. Not really sure what I think of Psyche since he replaced in
did you have any concrete reads by the time the modkill and/or fakeclaim reveal happened?In post 967, Psyche wrote: i was hoping to pick up on key info from yesterday by following what people say about it today but so far all ive got are that gob "fakeclaimed" and titus was modkilled. my rvs votes don't seem very different in substance and basis than any other reads people are discussing. overall tone of thread still feels very early D1
Going after fakeclaims are incredibly easy to push and convincingly paint as scumIn post 965, Psyche wrote:how did you come to believe that saying fakeclaiming sucks is so scummyIn post 958, gob wrote: Whoever was complaining about me fakeclaiming earlier is probably mafia btw. That is the classic mafia line.
what did you fakeclaim and why did you do it?In post 958, gob wrote: Whoever was complaining about me fakeclaiming earlier is probably mafia btw. That is the classic mafia line.
lolIn post 957, gob wrote: I actually have a green check on Roden.
In post 942, davesaz wrote: Alisa can you give us some reasons for the stuff you're so glibly posting?
In post 943, Alisae wrote:no
very uncharitable take imoIn post 878, Psyche wrote:this post feels a little disingenuousIn post 794, pisskop wrote: that modkill was unfortunate, but it happened.
it's not substantive and also doesn't convincingly advances a clear rhetorical or cathartic objective
i feel like it's just there to be there
VOTE: pisskop
want to tell lil ol me why?In post 936, Alisae wrote: VOTE: Psyche
I'll just go w/ Psyche cuz I feel like their posting is probably wolf indicative
especially sincec you want to push
do you have any other somewhat-townreads? and what was the basis of you townreadingIn post 928, Roden wrote: I really wish Dunn didn't die, that was pretty much my only lock town read
oh youre in for a fucking ride thenIn post 1008, davesaz wrote: Oh, and the bird pic made me dizzy.
how's 
think this is a misread. gob has spent plenty of time dwelling on the validity of his fakeclaiming. and it’s easy to *gesture* at the importance of moving on to productive discussion, but does gob really do that? does a stray question about a player’s stance on a slot really do that?In post 999, Taly wrote:i literally get nothing from this conversationIn post 994, gob wrote:I think your way of looking at the game is wrong. Yea that way may work most of the time, but mafia can adapt. There are really many acceptable ways to play, including lying as Town. In fact after a certain point it becomes necessary for Town to lie, since they cannot let mafia know what they're truly thinking. Doing otherwise often makes you a common NK target if you're good enough.In post 993, davesaz wrote:With a clear cut distinction between those who are lying because they have to and those who aren't because they don't need to, I find it much easier to sort.In post 990, gob wrote: Wouldn't it be better to have a play style that can function even if townies lie?
I find that lies from townies often result in mislims and bad action choices.
Town lies also provide scum a place to hide at times.
But i dont really feel like arguing this so you do you. What do you think about Alisae now that more time has passed?
but initial impression ofgobis favorable because the bolded shows a level of prioritizing thoughts and moving onto more productive discussion that seems oriented in solving.
how does the claim imply an informed POV in your mind?In post 917, Black wrote: I think gob has been scummy and I think the Cop claim could indicate he's Informed
I'd be ok with a Roden fade too
this was said when both of them were townleaning on youIn post 924, gob wrote: I don't like Alisae or Pisskop here.
unhelpful, I would've thought someone responds on an inquiry or observation about the read rather than the fluffy partIn post 882, Roden wrote:...Is this really something that people do?In post 879, gob wrote:I'm not townreading Roden, but I think they get scumread early because of their avatar.In post 877, Black wrote: @gob why do you townread Roden?
i think any traitor spec rn is counterintuitive and allows red herringsIn post 889, Something_Smart wrote: Do you think that pisskop makes that post if he's scum who took informed and knows there's no cop?
That idea crossed my mind from pisskop's entirely unconcerned response to gob today.
It actually makes me wonder if that's traitor-gob signaling to pisskop although that feels... ill-advised. But based on what I've seen of gob it's maybe something he might do?
im biased but i agree
In post 1010, Psyche wrote: it’s a deliberately uncharitable take
In post 858, Alisae wrote: What are these n1 kills huh????
In post 860, Black wrote: I don't understand why scum would hit Dunn over Dann here if Dann is town. I don't think a single person in the game scumread Dann while Dunn was in multiple solves
The answer is Dann is probably just scum
In post 874, Black wrote:Meh
In post 803, Black wrote: I think Roden is probably the best vote you could've opened the day with if you're scum here
I think you would, but I think town!you would have spent more time than just a few minutes of re-evaluating and I think you would have walked us through your thought processDannflor wrote:why would i not reevaluate if my solve is off
peditIn post 821, gob wrote:Well thats the thing... I checked you and you're mafia.In post 820, pisskop wrote: I never believed your claim but if youve got a result lay it down.
disagree, and do you contest that idea that fakeclaiming is not always mafia? i dont have the full information of the thread yet, so i dont think your comparative statement is fair here.In post 1013, Psyche wrote: if continuing w the charitability motif,this reaction to gob seems overly charitable even as other analyses seem plenty willing to run the other direction.
If the Mafia chose the Informed ability then they would know there isn't a cop in the game and could safely claim itIn post 1012, Taly wrote: how does the claim imply an informed POV in your mind?
In post 858, Alisae wrote: What are these n1 kills huh????
I get more confused about who you're scumreading the more I read and I don't know if its the fact I'm going backward.In post 860, Black wrote: I don't understand why scum would hit Dunn over Dann here if Dann is town. I don't think a single person in the game scumread Dann while Dunn was in multiple solves
The answer is Dann is probably just scum
What is making it difficult to engage withIn post 874, Black wrote:Meh
what's wrong about the
you seem exasperated byIn post 803, Black wrote: I think Roden is probably the best vote you could've opened the day with if you're scum here
Insert what I said in the above quote post
I think you would, but I think town!you would have spent more time than just a few minutes of re-evaluating and I think you would have walked us through your thought processDannflor wrote:why would i not reevaluate if my solve is off
did this go anywhere for you?In post 821, gob wrote:Well thats the thing... I checked you and you're mafia.In post 820, pisskop wrote: I never believed your claim but if youve got a result lay it down.
did this give you any confident read?In post 1017, Psyche wrote: i decided this rep-in to have my own rvs-lite by picking posts i didn’t like to be hypercritical about. so far find it to be a very efficient way to join in on the flow of the game and drive discussion. especially compared to previous games where i conditioned my own engagement on my ability to catch up on and develop a principled stance on everything that happened before i showed up. nothing in this post is really new information from me. i said the post was hypercritical and specious well before anyone interpreted these features as suspicious.
I would appreciate it if you could start having complex thoughts soonIn post 1003, Black wrote: I was leaning town on Drew. Not really sure what I think of Psyche since he replaced in
