Open 891: STDBINSBICACOT (Game Over)

[Gamma Emerald]

I just felt a compulsion to make the point
that being my predecessor doesn't preclude anyone from following the idea no? So it's potentially relevant.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think after p10 I'm gonna fuck off and play games for like an hour

[Gamma Emerald]

black's posting continues to leave a bad taste in my mouth after reading p10

[Black]

VOTE: Alisae

VOTE: Alisae

VOTE: black
maybe it is just black

Why do I feel town

reading in real time you felt townie but if I think you're trying to kill town then you could be mafia

I think this progression from Alisae is strange. They scumread me here because they think I could be trying to kill townies, but why don't they apply this same thought to Roden? Roden has pushed Titus and shaddow (two townies), me (someone Alisae thought felt townie), and Alisae themselves. If they are town then why would they not be of the belief that Roden is trying to kill townies too?

Instead they say Roden is probably town which indicates to me that Alisae is either scum pushing a fake thought progression or they are town making up reasons to fade me. Either way that's not very promising

Looking at Alisae's iso it feels weird that their early readslist in 489 has Roden as "either town or scum with Crescent". They then follow this up with 491 saying they don't have a read on Roden. They're still townreading me though

They say Crescent can be either alignment but when the wagon shifts from shaddow to Crescent, Alisae urges the voters to go back to shaddow (644) and when I ask them to help me fade Crescent they respond with "shaddow is a wolf"

There doesn't seem to be much consistency here. Ali started the day wanting to fade within Roden/Crescent but had since abandoned that thought and is now townreading Roden for having an "interesting POV"? And they are pushing me and "willing to bet the game" that I'm scum for reasons that should apply to Roden, and could apply to themselves as well (which if they're actually town should indicate that it's not scum indicative to push townies)

It just feels like their reads aren't very real and I have a feeling that they're scum. I think Crescent could make sense as a partner and Roden is probably just spewed town due to Alisae not applying the same logic to his slot. Their read on Roden feels more informed than buddy trying to save buddy, and it would make sense for Ali to try and shift her stance on Roden here to pocket him and try and get him to help fade me

VOTE: Alisae

Alisae/gamma/x

[Black]

black's posting continues to leave a bad taste in my mouth after reading p10

Did Alisae tell you that you should start scumreading me more in the PT?

[Alisae]

Something_Smart (3) - davesaz, Dannflor, gob
Black (2) - Alisae, Roden
Alisae (1) - Black

Not Voting (4) - Gamma, Something_Smart, Psyche, Taly

[Alisae]

okay 1328 is a wolfpost black wants to look ironclad in that post she doesn't want to be right

[Taly]

a completely new day, a completely new solve, eh

black

?

[Alisae]

a completely new day, a completely new solve, eh

black

?

give me ur vote

[Taly]

my counter thought on

black

is largely that their solving is mainly scumcasing and generating elimination orders.

its like, a very blatant and strong scumhunting mentality toward majority the game's slots, but the votes move closest to general consensus than one may think and its devoid of townhunting.

its why the counter idea is that

black

is just good at making convincing scumhunting cases because most slots are fair game to be eliminated -- rather than solved.

what i mean is, its not actually obvious whether

black

believes in her pushes because of how much it fluctuates, and how thoroughly it is overstated.

im sedated from night medicines, so im not sure how much of this makes sense.

but while i do feel some

black

behaviors are town, i dont think she interacts with the game in a good faith manner reflective of town sorting, but closer to the line of finding an elimination that wont give her as much backlash.

[Roden]

When did I push Shaddow?

[Roden]

Pretty sure I town read him

[Alisae]

Black is completely just full of shit

[Alisae]

I am going to put way less effort into this game and I am still going to get wolf!Black killed that's just funny

[Taly]

VOTE: Black

[Alisae]

Dann and Gamma come vote Black that's 5 votes

[Taly]

i think

roden

is likely town.

i just dont see some of their points and ideas being ones that scum makes, but im not in the feeling of digressing.

i must sleep rn, so yeah

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Black
I'm high on adrenaline rn and feeling it

[Alisae]

Black (4) - Alisae, Roden, Taly, Gamma Emerald
Something_Smart (3) - davesaz, Dannflor, gob
Alisae (1) - Black

Not Voting (2) - Something_Smart, Psyche

Come on let's make it happen

[Alisae]

I like how this black wagon is forming seems pure

[Dannflor]

VOTE: black

[Dannflor]

davesaz is still scummy

[Alisae]

If Black flips wolf he can be next

[Alisae]

Black if you are town I will give you an opportunity to try to sell me on a wolves that does not have me in it

[Black]

okay 1328 is a wolfpost black wants to look ironclad in that post she doesn't want to be right

I want to be right more than anything here actually