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Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:53 am

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gob
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Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:57 am

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i havent been wrong about
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in recent memory
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Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:02 am

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omg where are you im bored
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Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:08 am

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omg taly not everyone can be at your service 24/7 stop being so narcissistic
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Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:14 am

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i demand people to drop everything in their life to have a somewhat shallow solve conversation with me in a mafia forum game /j
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Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:22 am

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In post 1450, Taly wrote:
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I would be fine with that.
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Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:09 am

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In post 1443, Taly wrote: Unconvinced Dann sorry. I want to see what comes of this.
What exactly are you expecting to come of it?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:30 am

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a red flip and maybe more liberal voting so theres more content to analyze
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Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:31 am

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In post 1455, gob wrote:
In post 1450, Taly wrote:
gob
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gamma
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I would be fine with that.
3/6 votes, what are you afraid of then?
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Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:36 am

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my
gob
senses are tingling, they tell me
gob
is scared
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Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:37 am

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SS
you seem wholly unconcerned with your wagon and i sadly predicted that
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Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:39 am

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like, very sadly
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Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:39 am

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In post 1457, Taly wrote: a red flip and maybe more liberal voting so theres more content to analyze
Is Gamma your strongest scumread? Or just the strongest people will vote?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:41 am

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In post 1460, Taly wrote:
SS
you seem wholly unconcerned with your wagon and i sadly predicted that
Two people are voting me. That isn't a wagon.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:41 am

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In post 1459, Taly wrote: my
gob
senses are tingling, they tell me
gob
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I’m scared of everything
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Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:42 am

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strongest scumread actually idk what to make of
black/roden/alisae
but they seem towny in a vaccuum

i really dont feel convinced by the
dave
push

dann
is fine, i think, i just think their sincere

gob
is actually town
*sobs at the the realization*


psyche
? i could see it but i dont think anyones actually said a definitive case there so it feels kind of like your wagon
SS
where someone points aimlessly in a direction and everyone wants to kill

thats not how id characterize
MY
push onto
gamma
, but yeah

pedit
In post 1463, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1460, Taly wrote:
SS
you seem wholly unconcerned with your wagon and i sadly predicted that
Two people are voting me. That isn't a wagon.
i can vote and make it three, then you'll have a wagon
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I’m scared of everything
thats heavy man
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Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:42 am

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If you were hoping I'd devote more time to the game, I'd love to, but I have bigger RL priorities at the moment.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:44 am

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then give me a short, digestible readslist, that has to be pretty low effort
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Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:45 am

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I dont really like you stealing my spotlight Taly.
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Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:45 am

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its not hard to do :cool:
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Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:52 am

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actually
gob
what do you make of the
alisae/black/roden
interaction the past couple of pages?
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Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:52 am

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In post 1467, Taly wrote: then give me a short, digestible readslist, that has to be pretty low effort
It's gonna be a mess but uh sure

Dann, dave
Gamma, gob
Psyche, Alisae, Black
Taly, Roden

The problem isn't that I can't generate reads, it's that I can't invest the time to read in-depth and generate deeper reads, especially when those deeper reads almost certainly wouldn't be any more accurate. (They would help people read me better, which is why that's an issue right now. But everyone who's voted/scumread me has been welcome to engage me on anything, and shockingly most of them haven't.)
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:56 am

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I'm a power wolf y'all
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Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:05 am

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Taly if you will indulge in a little self-meta what does your wolf game look like compared to your town game
I scumread Alianna.

ALL HAIL THE SCUM QUEEN!
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Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:24 am

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I'm definitely quieter. I typically am still considered a deepwolf. I don't have the same spontaneity because my.mind needs something to solve and that's hard to fake from an informed perspective because of the sheer size and volume I have as a hyperposter. (Literally, I do not have any completed scumgames with being this high activity.) I have not replicated hyperposting as scum to-date but can probably make it somewhat convincing. I do have a very solid read progression that I can fake and justify very well-- I've had people know that I'm scum but still struggled to case against me because I was "too perfect." I pocket, I can still be emotional but I'm more fearful of using AtE maliciously so it's more calculated to a specific goal. I promise to do more but I have less WIM and therefore am flakier and less tryharding.

As town I kind of AtE unintentionally. I take spotlight unintentionally. I have so many thoughts sometimes and I don't think it's useful to explain them all in a coherent progression unlike what is closer to what I think as my scumgame. My tonal range as town is very wide and so I can have a lot of different faces as town even in the same game. My WIM fluctuates a lot but as long as I am both scumhunting and townhunting, it's very strong.

I've had perfect scum wins before.

I've been LHF on otherwise strong teams before.

I've won as an 3p before.

I've been miseliminated in D1 before.

I've lost in elo as town more than as scum, and many uninformed dead threads have assumed I'm the final mafia too.

There is a perception that I'm very strong at scum and good at, as
Dave
said, rehabilitating slots.

But that's NAI, people just find my town game unpredictable with really good reason and I've had enough good scumgames to be BoP'd as a threat, yet I'm confident scum would use that against me.

I'm usually a near universal townread in games until I begin surviving for awhile.

I'm told I'm hard to read but I don't think so.

I'm hard to understand.

Or, for some people, vice versa.

I think there's a distinction between understanding a player and assessing their alignment.
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