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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 11:14 am

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In post 241, Looker wrote: @Vanderscamp: Did you expect the Wheme wagon to go through?

Thought there was a decent chance it would
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 11:19 am

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VOTE: kitty

Same reason as yesterday, I agree with #258
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 11:19 am

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Dan is also very likely town from #258 even if it is wrong
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 11:42 am

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I’m okay if this goes through. Someone hammer.

Kitty is in their scum meta, and yessiree is bussing.
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 11:48 am

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In post 273, Vanderscamp wrote: Nice
That was quick
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 11:48 am

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Spoiler: FL
In post 225, KittyTacky wrote: I had a bad feeling about that wagon.

Will re-skim and update my list in a bit.

Likely more than 1 scum on that wagon actually.
In post 227, Flavor Leaf wrote: Oh, Kitty’s scum too.
In post 228, Flavor Leaf wrote: VOTE: Kitty

I’m actually this confident.
Spoiler: Roden
In post 229, Roden wrote: VOTE: Kitty

I feel another soul read coming on
Spoiler: Drew
In post 231, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 228, Flavor Leaf wrote: VOTE: Kitty

I’m actually this confident.
So you can only bookend your vote?

VOTE: Kitty
Spoiler: yes
In post 222, yessiree wrote: Actually day 1 was too long. Can't believe y'all took so long to get a consensus. Hopefully we can pick up the pace

VOTE: gamma
In post 233, yessiree wrote: man you guys are not subtle at all aren't ya

I don't hate it

VOTE: kitty
Spoiler: Elements
In post 244, Elements wrote:
In post 224, Roden wrote: What were you able to invent?
Idk if I wanna tell scum yet

VOTE: kitty
Spoiler: Vanderscamp
In post 276, Vanderscamp wrote: VOTE: kitty

Same reason as yesterday, I agree with #258
In post 187, Vanderscamp wrote: Elements/kitty are my two scum regardless of this flip, and my town read is whoever said the thing about never rolling scum, I don't remember who that was.
In post 258, ActionDan wrote:
In post 248, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 168, KittyTacky wrote:
CONF TOWN

KittyTacky - I got a green role PM

TOWN

Looker - actively pushing the game forward, I think this is townie

LEAN TOWN

Elements - posting a lot but not too spammy, seems to contribute enough
ActionDan, Gamma, Doctor Drew - generically townie on vibes

NULL/NEUTRAL

Flavor Leaf - I don't know how to read FL early
Random Nurse - silent, getting replaced
WhemeStar - why are we running this up?
Celebloki, Roden, Naerys - idk

LEAN SCUM

Vanderscamp - seems quite erratic and a bit unnatural

SCUM

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VOTE: Vanderscamp
CONF TOWN

KittyTacky - I got a green role PM

TOWN

Looker - still town lead, still townie

LEAN TOWN

Elements - still posting a lot but not too spammy, still seems to contribute enough
Gamma, Doctor Drew - generically townie on vibes
(Ele and Drew actually contributed yesterday instead of sitting around and then jumping on me)

NULL/NEUTRAL

Flavor Leaf - idk what to think of the push on me, I feel FL can be wrong town but he's brazen as scum
Celebloki, Naerys - idk
Vanderscamp - still bad vibes but hasn't talked today, shouldn't be focus today

LEAN SCUM

Roden, yessiree - jumped on me with no reasoning, not active yesterday. Not omgusing, this would be omgus if yall actually backed up your reads instead of this being a nudist colony for votes

SCUM

ActionDan - "small losses" comment and then asking for reads feels like scum behavior. Like it feels like a fake nonchalantness? Also naked vote put Wheme at E-2

VOTE: ActionDan
So I thought your first readslist was quite bad and this next one is equally so. It deserves to be picked apart.

Looker is not leading town. He certainly is posting but if he were
leading
you might expect say an actual push or perhaps more posts than others neither of which is happening. Why is he so high on your list either D1 or D2?

The town lean category seems reserved for those who either "contribute" or have good vibes. I don't put much stock into either but on the surface good vibes would trump contribution, which makes elements position suspect if you're not putting in effort to determine whether element's contributions are towny/scummy/null. Additionally all these people at the time of the D2 readslist are voting you. This "reeks", so why how have they remained there while I (who did not vote you) migrated to scum.

The Vanderscamp read is bad vibes. I want to know why you thought his posting was "erratic" or "unnatural" D1. It was in fact pretty consistent and was one of the few people that had a pretty clear train of thought. Furthermore were I to have had that opinion, I would not so casually toss him into the nulls. To me it looks like his saving grace is that he hasn't voted you today.

And now to your vote on me. asking for reads being scum behavior in a vacuum has never been the case. You had put me as "good vibes" after I was 5th vote on D1. Why is this a problem now? And my reasons do exist in a later post, but clearly they weren't worth a mention.
In post 277, Vanderscamp wrote: Dan is also very likely town from #258 even if it is wrong

What am I missing about the KittyTack wagon? I don't want to drag the day out if there's a consensus, but I don't see why everyone's jumping on it. Is there some slip that I missed somewhere?
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 11:48 am

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The only person who explained anything was Vanderscamp
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 11:59 am

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Will at least give kitty a chance to respond
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:01 pm

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In post 278, Flavor Leaf wrote: I’m okay if this goes through. Someone hammer.

Kitty is in their scum meta, and yessiree is bussing.
we are not blitzing 2 days in a row
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:13 pm

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I’m cool waiting.

Just nobody else claim anything.
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:14 pm

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Also, I’m trying this low energy style, and somehow it seems to get people to follow so much more.

Naerys said I was leading, but really, I just walked down a street, people saw, and wanted to come down and see the sights too.
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:52 pm

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Why is a soul read so bad?
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:55 pm

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In post 225, KittyTacky wrote: I had a bad feeling about that wagon.

Will re-skim and update my list in a bit.

Likely more than 1 scum on that wagon actually.
Like, does seem like someone with a town mindset makes this post?

This is what I, and I assume Roden, were talking about with a soul read.

Also claiming VT before E-1 seems a bit odd for town to do imo.
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:13 pm

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Sorry, been a busy day and it will be a busy next few days. Hosting some house guests and a Friendsgiving in a couple days. I hopefully will still get some posting in late nights or here and there.

I have also noticed a distinct change in Kitty's overall presence and tone from Open 890 (C9++). I may have intent to hammer, but I do still want to give Kitty a chance to respond and to gather my thoughts, do so more re-reading before I make that decision.
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:44 pm

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In post 276, Vanderscamp wrote: VOTE: kitty

Same reason as yesterday, I agree with #258
In post 277, Vanderscamp wrote: Dan is also very likely town from #258 even if it is wrong
Wait what? u agree with Dan and think he is wrong
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:59 pm

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In post 286, Doctor Drew wrote: Why is a soul read so bad?
My problem is it’s Roden’s soul read and I don’t trust him.
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:10 pm

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In post 290, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 286, Doctor Drew wrote: Why is a soul read so bad?
My problem is it’s Roden’s soul read and I don’t trust him.
I can understand that......I was referring more to my soul read on Kitty though(though now that I type these words, it really is more of an actual read then soul read for me).

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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:12 pm

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I think I can afford you a little trust. As a treat.
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:15 pm

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In post 292, Gamma Emerald wrote: I think I can afford you a little trust. As a treat.
I like treats.
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:17 pm

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In post 293, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 292, Gamma Emerald wrote: I think I can afford you a little trust. As a treat.
I like treats.
Also since I do trust your reads are pure.

I will sheep you on Roden

VOTE: Roden
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:01 pm

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I like Roden for now.
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:01 pm

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I can see the world where they are scum, but I’m not feeling it.
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:04 pm

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In post 296, Flavor Leaf wrote: I can see the world where they are scum, but I’m not feeling it.
I agree with your solve so far, but....

Why like Roden?
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:45 pm

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In post 297, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 296, Flavor Leaf wrote: I can see the world where they are scum, but I’m not feeling it.
I agree with your solve so far, but....

Why like Roden?
Roden’s better at positioning than they’re doing here as scum.
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:50 pm

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In Blood Utopia, i had Roden as objectively scum when they made a specific action in the way they tried to pivot the game, and then they were able to turn me into town reading them when I called them out with solid logic.

And by the time of my death, I had every single scum called out as scum EXCEPT for Roden slot even after Hu Tao replaced in.

In DragonEater’s game, Hu Tao even said specifically that I mainly town read Hu Tao because of Roden as well.

So I don’t see low effort lol wagoning as scum Roden, especially after they had some stank with the Drew comments Day 1.

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