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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:14 pm

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actually, ive only seen you say that to me when i was town.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:17 pm

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In post 422, ActionDan wrote: I just want you to know FL, that I absolutely caught that crumb, signaling town investigative.

Good crumb though. Not that I had much doubt but this further means naerys less lilely to be scum eliminating them as killer / vanillaizer.

I agree with your list minus Kitty / Celebloki. There are things in Kitty's response that continue to be objectively untrue, for example their disposition on looker. I can classify their other opinions re: contributions/ good and bad vibes as subjective opinions but it isn't quite fitting into place just yet.

I was of the opinion that drew was nominally towny. I'll revisit.
Yeah, I wouldnt have claimed, but I wanted to explain my progression overall this game. I think there's a chance Kitty could have done this as scum, but it was enough for me to be okay changing wagons. Wasn't ready for day to end yet.

Noting your Drew read, though. Drew and I get in paranoia feuds a decent amount, so it's possible.
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:21 pm

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In post 415, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 414, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 413, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 405, Flavor Leaf wrote: I feel like Drew smelled my suspicion of him even though i was keeping it quiet.
If I were scum I would pocket you without you knowing it and let you lead me to the mislim.

Pre Edit: Gamma is the only person I will trust here and will sheep them on their reads.

That's why I wanted their opinion on you when they voiced some similar feelings I had about you.

Pre Edit2: Yes, I have been focusing on Gamma's reads and following her, re: my above Edit

Do you think Gamma is scum?
Why are you sheeping Gamma?
Do you think I would be so blatant as scum?
Don't know, not especially, but it's a genuine question.
I dislike Gamma's reads and don't think they've been overtly towny.
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:24 pm

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In post 426, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 422, ActionDan wrote: I just want you to know FL, that I absolutely caught that crumb, signaling town investigative.

Good crumb though. Not that I had much doubt but this further means naerys less lilely to be scum eliminating them as killer / vanillaizer.

I agree with your list minus Kitty / Celebloki. There are things in Kitty's response that continue to be objectively untrue, for example their disposition on looker. I can classify their other opinions re: contributions/ good and bad vibes as subjective opinions but it isn't quite fitting into place just yet.

I was of the opinion that drew was nominally towny. I'll revisit.
Yeah, I wouldnt have claimed, but I wanted to explain my progression overall this game. I think there's a chance Kitty could have done this as scum, but it was enough for me to be okay changing wagons. Wasn't ready for day to end yet.

Noting your Drew read, though. Drew and I get in paranoia feuds a decent amount, so it's possible.
It's not clear to me what "this" Is that would have been hard to fake.

I'm not tunneled on Kitty being super scummy but I continue to dislike their reads and general slot and think it's pretty dangerous to write them off based on comments/interactions from the wagon.
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:24 pm

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VOTE: Roden for what I feel might have been TMI about ATE
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:31 pm

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In post 421, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 419, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 417, Flavor Leaf wrote: the fact im using bad logic and reasoning instead of good logic for a lot of my earlier reads is not scumFlavor. lol

you saying i aint shown townie is cap
I never said that

I said you show townie eventually, just haven't seen it yet.

Maybe you think you have, and maybe you actually have, but I haven't seen what I eventually do see yet.
i think whatever tell you got back then isn't actually a townie tell and is just something i happened to do as town once or twice.

cuz you've said that line before when I was town.
I have, at the very least, said to Alianna in our hydra chat that sorting you on D1 is a fools game since you will show your town self if you are town(then called you town right after that lol).

Also I definitely said that you aren't that hard to read and you will expose yourself as town in previous games.
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:31 pm

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In post 430, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 421, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 419, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 417, Flavor Leaf wrote: the fact im using bad logic and reasoning instead of good logic for a lot of my earlier reads is not scumFlavor. lol

you saying i aint shown townie is cap
I never said that

I said you show townie eventually, just haven't seen it yet.

Maybe you think you have, and maybe you actually have, but I haven't seen what I eventually do see yet.
i think whatever tell you got back then isn't actually a townie tell and is just something i happened to do as town once or twice.

cuz you've said that line before when I was town.
I have, at the very least, said to Alianna in our hydra chat that sorting you on D1 is a fools game since you will show your town self if you are town(then called you town right after that lol).

Also I definitely said that you aren't that hard to read and you will expose yourself as town in previous games.
Obviously in regards to Alianna and our hydra, was not this game. Was Blood over Utopia.
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:39 pm

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Eventually I’ll get through a town game not claiming my damn role
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:41 pm

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I’m town reading ActionDan, but keeping in mind, they were a legend already when I was still in newbie queue.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:49 pm

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Stop it you
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:51 pm

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In post 374, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 373, Vanderscamp wrote: I don't understand why we're moving from the kitty wagon, I don't find anything they've said recently towny.

I also think Naerys' posts today are very bad.
If we're moving wagons I would rather go there.
I think it’s a mix of AtE/meta, where I personally haven’t ever seen Kitty fight like that to stay alive, as either alignment.

When they’re caught, and pressured that hard, they normally come in awkward and still go down, where here, I think they made a connection to some people, and AtE was in fact pretty strong.

But I understand why some wouldn’t buy it, it just felt like others needed more to end up limming Kitty, and if Kitty is scum, they did enough to avoid getting the required votes on them.

I will say, though, if Kitty is town, scum moving off of Kitty after Kitty claimed VT is highly likely.
Actually I tend to fold easier as scum.
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:58 pm

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In post 363, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 346, KittyTacky wrote: "He's putting in more effort so he must be scum because he puts in more effort as scum" is a fallacious 'tell'. Maybe I'm taking this game more seriously.
Is it fallacious or just annoying from your perspective?
Yes it's fallacious. What if I decide I am putting in more effort as town?
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 2:14 pm

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In post 429, Vanderscamp wrote: VOTE: Roden for what I feel might have been TMI about ATE
Walk me through this one
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 2:27 pm

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In post 427, Vanderscamp wrote: Don't know, not especially, but it's a genuine question.
I dislike Gamma's reads and don't think they've been overtly towny.
Feels kinda weird this is only coming up now when Drew has said he townreads and wants to sheep me from daystart
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 3:25 pm

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and i thought i was gonna have a chill vibe game, maaannn
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 3:37 pm

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VC 2.03


yessiree (4):
Roden, KittyTacky, Flavor Leaf, Elements
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Doctor Drew, Looker, Vanderscamp
KittyTacky (1):
yessiree
Doctor Drew (1):
Naerys
Not Voting (3):
Celebloki, ActionDan, Gamma Emerald

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate someone.
There are (expired on 2023-11-24 13:03:03) left in the deadline.
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 3:39 pm

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VOTE: Drew
I think Naerys is kinda cooking here
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 3:42 pm

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In post 441, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: Drew
I think Naerys is kinda cooking here
I trust you, but I don't think you understand why I trust you.
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 3:52 pm

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In post 436, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 363, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 346, KittyTacky wrote: "He's putting in more effort so he must be scum because he puts in more effort as scum" is a fallacious 'tell'. Maybe I'm taking this game more seriously.
Is it fallacious or just annoying from your perspective?
Yes it's fallacious. What if I decide I am putting in more effort as town?
Than putting in more effort as scum would not be your meta.

Fallacy doesn't mean anything that could possibly be wrong.
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 3:54 pm

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In post 437, Roden wrote:
In post 429, Vanderscamp wrote: VOTE: Roden for what I feel might have been TMI about ATE
Walk me through this one
When you made post #332 I did not agree with you that anything Kitty said was town-indicative.

What Kitty said wasn't overly scummy or anything but it was probably one of the least town-indicative ATEs I've ever seen and I think you got a Kitty town read too easily.
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 3:54 pm

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In post 438, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 427, Vanderscamp wrote: Don't know, not especially, but it's a genuine question.
I dislike Gamma's reads and don't think they've been overtly towny.
Feels kinda weird this is only coming up now when Drew has said he townreads and wants to sheep me from daystart
Sure but then he said it again!
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:08 pm

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In post 444, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 437, Roden wrote:
In post 429, Vanderscamp wrote: VOTE: Roden for what I feel might have been TMI about ATE
Walk me through this one
When you made post #332 I did not agree with you that anything Kitty said was town-indicative.

What Kitty said wasn't overly scummy or anything but it was probably one of the least town-indicative ATEs I've ever seen and I think you got a Kitty town read too easily.
If the AtE is that bad and ineffective then why do you think I jump off the wagon as scum

That seems kind of incongruent
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:20 pm

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i've seen worse AtE from kitty as town before, but I can respect the hustle of posting in a power outage here

anyways jumping into a meeting i'll read up after
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:41 pm

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In post 366, Elements wrote:
In post 355, Flavor Leaf wrote: VOTE: Yesiree
we moving wagons?
VOTE: yesiree
Why are you moving wagons

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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:43 pm

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In post 362, ActionDan wrote: It may well be 12 hours before I can examine recent developments
Do yessiree, Roden, KittyTacky, and Doctor Drew seem town to you

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