Toriel's Patience (end)

[Lazy Shirou]

This is much more fun than malding yep

Gotta go to work now, see ya later my lovely people

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: Taly

[Taly]

FUCK YEAH I WAS right

[Taly]

Omg I'm sedated

[Taly]

Wait let me give a tiered sparelist

[ssbm_Kyouko]

The only explanations for Alisae's play here are 1) scum that is so far behind in the game that the only way to squeeze a win out is to be completely against the grain and hope if e says it loud enough as though it's true for long enough, eventually town will glaze over and accept it

Or 2) a lot of us are wrong about our reads and we're about to spare scum starting toMorrow

I just feel like there are several town that are solidly so and it doesn't make sense to be saying things like "I'm going to spare RCE" unless it's like literally your only hope as scum

[Taly]

Too tired omg

What do you people want from me before I am yeeted?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Also not voting yet because I do want some time, like now that Dunn has flipped town we might have enough numbers to discuss a spare pool that actually makes it the distance

[Alisae]

The only explanations for Alisae's play here

stfu as if you can explain my play

[Alisae]

Dannflor - Very much so NOT an Ali Supporter
RCE - Ali is his gospel Ali is what he preaches
Lazy Shirou - Evil dragon that hates Ali
Bingle - I actually don't know but I think he likes me
Sakura Hana - likes me
Keyleth - I think she likes me
Ydrasse - dunno don't care
Taly - big fan
implosion - i remember him saying he liked me but he was open to reconsidering but I think he's gonna like me
ssbm_kyouko - hates me

[Alisae]

as you can see
it is only a small minority that wants me gone

[Alisae]

dunnstral didn't like me but he's also dead he also doesn't like RCE and from my pov RCE is obvtown

[Alisae]

so like his reads were just bad

[Lazy Shirou]

UNVOTE:

Just to not speedrun the day

[Lazy Shirou]

The only explanations for Alisae's play here are 1) scum that is so far behind in the game that the only way to squeeze a win out is to be completely against the grain and hope if e says it loud enough as though it's true for long enough, eventually town will glaze over and accept it

Or 2) a lot of us are wrong about our reads and we're about to spare scum starting toMorrow

I just feel like there are several town that are solidly so and it doesn't make sense to be saying things like "I'm going to spare RCE" unless it's like literally your only hope as scum

I agree with this assessment and I was secretly mulling over whether I'm town reading scum right now even if Ali is scum

There's also the alternative that Ali is town and it's just her opinion I guess

[Sakura Hana]

If we're gonna spare Taly always today.
Why are we doing more discussion outside of wanting to hear from Taly? I thought the point was to not give scum NK ideas.

I'm not opposed to more discussion, but i dont see what difference does it make between today and tomorrow when we actually have to spare someone other than Taly.

[Sakura Hana]

Of course if there's anyone who opposes sparing Taly today, im willing to hear arguments on that front.

[Ydrasse]

yay
yes we can spare taly

[Taly]

Please give me questions and prompts to help my brain move

[Taly]

I plan to make a readslist in terms of sparing and each tier is 2 players

Let me know if you envision an issue with that approach

[ssbm_Kyouko]

we are in 8:3 sparegame with 1:0 ratio
to win we must spare 3 town before 2 mafia
Taly is town - assume we are in 6:3 sparegame with 2:0 ratio
we need to spare 2 town before 2 mafia but one of our town will be NKed before the first spare so to spare 2 town we need 4 locktowns

Players who will be alive after we spare Taly but before the NK:

1. Dannflor
   
2. RCEnigma
   Random Nurse
   Aristeia
   
   
3. Lazy Shirou
   
4. Bingle
   Brown Eyes
   
   
5. Sakura Hana
   
6. Keyleth
   
7. Ydrasse
   Mandate
   
   
8. Alisae
   
9. implosion
   
10. ssbm_kyouko
    beeboy

I don't think I can select 3 others off this list I'm fully confident in flipping town, let alone 4 others if I was not in the 4 to be spared. I don't think we have the numbers to lock in further spares going into D5 and 6. Taly do you want to towncase your sleeper spares before you are spared so we have it for later? You were saying nobody is talking about sparing your top 2.

[Taly]

I'll towncase

Keyleth

and

Shirou

and hopefully that process doesn't end in me reversing my reads again hehe

[Taly]

Holiday stuff with family so I won't really be active until Sunday

[Taly]

I don't want to drag D4 longer than it needs to be so engagement needs to be meaningful so I know how to setup the town to read me post townflip

[Bingle]

we are in 8:3 sparegame with 1:0 ratio
to win we must spare 3 town before 2 mafia
Taly is town - assume we are in 6:3 sparegame with 2:0 ratio
we need to spare 2 town before 2 mafia but one of our town will be NKed before the first spare so to spare 2 town we need 4 locktowns

Players who will be alive after we spare Taly but before the NK:

1. Dannflor
   
2. RCEnigma
   Random Nurse
   Aristeia
   
   
3. Lazy Shirou
   
4. Bingle
   Brown Eyes
   
   
5. Sakura Hana
   
6. Keyleth
   
7. Ydrasse
   Mandate
   
   
8. Alisae
   
9. implosion
   
10. ssbm_kyouko
    beeboy

I don't think I can select 3 others off this list I'm fully confident in flipping town, let alone 4 others if I was not in the 4 to be spared. I don't think we have the numbers to lock in further spares going into D5 and 6. Taly do you want to towncase your sleeper spares before you are spared so we have it for later? You were saying nobody is talking about sparing your top 2.

At first I thought this list was an ordered spare list and I was really fucking confused.