In post 4071, Dannflor wrote:
RCE's posts to and about Sakura feel like stereotypically partnery to me and feels like RCE trying to resurrect Sakura's previous widely town read status.
In post 2684, RCEnigma wrote:
Hi Sakura! I don’t have any confidence reading you. So a little summarization of why you’re town would be helpful.
the specific callout to you he does that he doesn't do with anyone else feels like a classic S/S interaction
i also don't really believe RCE would want or would get anything out of you summarizing why you're town
In post 2834, RCEnigma wrote:
Brown eyes isn’t very prevalent in the game up to where I’ve read but his posting is good. That’s so vague but I guess it’s…tonal/vibe?
Same with Sakura and having an endorsement from my predecessor is a plus.
also just a read I get s/s vibes from. I don't think town actually thinks along the lines of "an endorsement from their predecessor being a plus"
town like to have their own individual reads and are prideful of them
idk i just cannot get these two posts out of my head
In post 2684, RCEnigma wrote:
Hi Sakura! I don’t have any confidence reading you. So a little summarization of why you’re town would be helpful.
the specific callout to you he does that he doesn't do with anyone else feels like a classic S/S interaction
i also don't really believe RCE would want or would get anything out of you summarizing why you're town
In post 2834, RCEnigma wrote:
Brown eyes isn’t very prevalent in the game up to where I’ve read but his posting is good. That’s so vague but I guess it’s…tonal/vibe?
Same with Sakura and having an endorsement from my predecessor is a plus.
also just a read I get s/s vibes from. I don't think town actually thinks along the lines of "an endorsement from their predecessor being a plus"
town like to have their own individual reads and are prideful of them
idk i just cannot get these two posts out of my head
Isnt that from like back on day 2, how would that be "resurrecting" my townread status, if that's what he's trying to do he decided to drop it before day 2 ended.
the bingle post is interesting. I guess gamestate-wide reads are sort of more relevant in this setup than they would be in a normal game especially since the total amount of scum influence over the thread is ever increasing. I'm still a little afraid that it has some underlying assumptions about how scum would view playing this setup, i.e. that they would necessarily feel the need to push each other upward, when I think I would be quite afraid to do that as scum in this game because of the potential for extremely damning associatives and I could imagine someone trying to just play under the radar and not really do much toward other people that has the potential to be damning
In post 2684, RCEnigma wrote:
Hi Sakura! I don’t have any confidence reading you. So a little summarization of why you’re town would be helpful.
the specific callout to you he does that he doesn't do with anyone else feels like a classic S/S interaction
i also don't really believe RCE would want or would get anything out of you summarizing why you're town
In post 2834, RCEnigma wrote:
Brown eyes isn’t very prevalent in the game up to where I’ve read but his posting is good. That’s so vague but I guess it’s…tonal/vibe?
Same with Sakura and having an endorsement from my predecessor is a plus.
also just a read I get s/s vibes from. I don't think town actually thinks along the lines of "an endorsement from their predecessor being a plus"
town like to have their own individual reads and are prideful of them
idk i just cannot get these two posts out of my head
Isnt that from like back on day 2, how would that be "resurrecting" my townread status, if that's what he's trying to do he decided to drop it before day 2 ended.
day 2 is the last time most people in this game were playing the game
I think my problem with dropping Sakura as town is that I think the d1 reasons to townread her were like, pretty high tier convincing. Like Mandate's affect toward her was almost utter certainty that she was town and I was definitely vibing with that affect at the time. I can go back and look at what the reasons were but I remember them feeling pretty ironclad.
In post 4072, Dannflor wrote:
to be transparent i think the team is exactly like sakura/rce/shirou and they've been subtly pushing each other into or back into the town core for a while now
Speaking of, where has shirou been doing any of this? pretty sure shirou has been hard scumreading rce, if they are partners that's some hardcore distancing.
In post 4080, implosion wrote:
i.e. that they would necessarily feel the need to push each other upward, when I think I would be quite afraid to do that as scum in this game because of the potential for extremely damning associatives and I could imagine someone trying to just play under the radar and not really do much toward other people that has the potential to be damning
meh
that's probably smart
but like I think this game was pretty clearly going towards spare from the start, so I do think there is some element of scum realizing that at least one of them needs to be a spare candidate before the end of the game, at least two of them really.
and i am assuming that would be a rare thing to happen naturally in this playerlist but maybe im wrong
In post 4072, Dannflor wrote:
to be transparent i think the team is exactly like sakura/rce/shirou and they've been subtly pushing each other into or back into the town core for a while now
Speaking of, where has shirou been doing any of this? pretty sure shirou has been hard scumreading rce, if they are partners that's some hardcore distancing.
I'll be honest I was looking entirely at shirou/you
but i also don't think bussing is out of the question especially when scum have to plan to be flipped at some point
I realize I'm now fitting the evidence to the conclusion now though so I'll try to relook at the associations later
I also disagree that Sakura would not be valuing the townslip as much as she is if she were scum. I've like,
hard
townpushed people that i thought had legitimate townslips before (see ZZZX's signature) and I think it's entirely possible to think this was legitimate, i mean i think it probably was but i have reservations.
So, Mr Dannwolf, if im not partnered with Alisae and Kyouko is also town, what is my endgame here pushing for Alisae spare instead of sheeping the spare of kyouko. Wouldnt in this situation the more optimal solution be to push for an RCE spare to validate Shirou's scumread to help a Shirou spare next?, looks like according to you my master scumplan is to head into town spares and lose.
Or you know, i'm just town and firmly believe that Alisae townslipped back then and so i rather spare e whom i believe has a very strong chance of flipping town.
It's very obvious that this wagon to spare me is a surprise but also something some people should have realistically seen coming and is why shirou is trying to roleplay as an evil dragon to shout me down
the way I see it, Sakura & RCE was probably always going to advocate to spare me over any plan that town actually came with.
Bingle is a surprise. I did not expect Bingle to just put down a vote to spare me and I would like to think that a wolf wouldn't do that. I think a wolf does not want me spared
I cannot think of any reason for wolf!bingle or any of the people who people suspect as wolves to vote to spare me if they're a wolf.
I'm a player that you want to keep unflipped for as long as possible here
