open 894: near vanilla (game over)

[Black]

The gut feeling has to come from something

No. Gut feelings can be hunches or biases.

I guess that's fair. The hunch generally comes from something though, but yeah you're right. Jupiter had Dann at null less than 24 hours ago so that's what makes me thing the "gut feeling" is based on something Dannflor did today

[JupiterXV]

my gut says you're towny but i don't think you've done much to warrant that townread so you're just kind of hanging out in my head

If your gut is telling you he's town how could you not think he's done anything to warrant a townread?

i don't know
his vibes are like good but slightly weirdish. it's always this thing i have going on with experienced players (especially so those who *feel* experienced) where i cannot trust them at all. if they're towny it ticks off my alarm bells because as scum they'd know enough to act towny and since i'm not particularly good with assigning reads it's easy enough for them to just slip past me. but then they could also literally just be town, and then i'm stuck paranoia'ing everyone i townread for the pure reason that they're better at mafia than me. it's also one of the exact reasons why i've been unable to lock a specific read on t3 (and it's pissing me off btw): because dannflor says town t3 knows better, he's experienced enough to do this right as town, and i buy that, but at the same time why would scum t3 do this so wrong???

[JupiterXV]

Or from looking at Jupiter's avatar

i did not actually realize how strange my avatar must've been to look at until now LMAO sorry gang
i'll find a better science diagram soon

[JupiterXV]

Why can't you just have a Pokemon or anime character or cool movie star like the rest of us

OH POKEMON? BET

[Black]

my gut says you're towny but i don't think you've done much to warrant that townread so you're just kind of hanging out in my head

If your gut is telling you he's town how could you not think he's done anything to warrant a townread?

i don't know
his vibes are like good but slightly weirdish. it's always this thing i have going on with experienced players (especially so those who *feel* experienced) where i cannot trust them at all. if they're towny it ticks off my alarm bells because as scum they'd know enough to act towny and since i'm not particularly good with assigning reads it's easy enough for them to just slip past me. but then they could also literally just be town, and then i'm stuck paranoia'ing everyone i townread for the pure reason that they're better at mafia than me. it's also one of the exact reasons why i've been unable to lock a specific read on t3 (and it's pissing me off btw): because dannflor says town t3 knows better, he's experienced enough to do this right as town, and i buy that, but at the same time why would scum t3 do this so wrong???

I can definitely relate to this. You just described me as town

[JupiterXV]

feast my eyes upon this little guy!!!

[JupiterXV]

feast your eyes*

excuse me while i drown in my embarrassment.

[Black]

if they're towny it ticks off my alarm bells because as scum they'd know enough to act towny and since i'm not particularly good with assigning reads it's easy enough for them to just slip past me. but then they could also literally just be town, and then i'm stuck paranoia'ing everyone i townread

Like this in particular just speaks to my soul

[JupiterXV]

I can definitely relate to this. You just described me as town

yeah. i know reasonably the gutread has to come from /somewhere/ but even though i usually trust my gut it doesn't stop me from being paranoid. ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
i'll look through dannflor's posts later after i get some more responses

[Black]

feast my eyes upon this little guy!!!

nom nom nom

feast your eyes*

excuse me while i drown in my embarrassment.

IT'S SO CUTE THANK YOU

[JupiterXV]

if they're towny it ticks off my alarm bells because as scum they'd know enough to act towny and since i'm not particularly good with assigning reads it's easy enough for them to just slip past me. but then they could also literally just be town, and then i'm stuck paranoia'ing everyone i townread

Like this in particular just speaks to my soul

glad i could write something that resonates with you lol

[JupiterXV]

feast my eyes upon this little guy!!!

nom nom nom

feast your eyes*

excuse me while i drown in my embarrassment.

IT'S SO CUTE THANK YOU

scarlet and violet has some interesting designs (i say this while adoring the entire roster) but how could you not love pawmi... what a sweet little critter

[JupiterXV]

Jupiter what is your read on shaddow?

blehh i forgot to respond to this sorry give me a sec

[JupiterXV]

absolutely not a townread, probably leaning a bit into null/scumlean territory. their push on me comes off as reachy and lowkey i've been itching to call them out on it. like my vote in t3 was pretty clearly an RVS vote (literally on page one) and never did i express a scumread on t3 in the posts they're claiming i do. tbh i might know better than this but it feels a bit like a chainsaw, actually?
also, how they've addressed the t3 wagon makes me much more skeptical of them. completely ignoring a relevant wagon because it's not "worthwhile" is a little bit quirky and while it may not be scummy it's just something that stands out to me. i also generally agree with OWER's reasoning in #211 and his following posts.
confused as to why bella townreads him because she's never stated a reason
if t3 flips scum i'd say shadow is almost certainly scum

[Aisa]

Could you describe what specifically you disagree with? Just to get a peek into your thought process.

What's your thought process behind viewing antagonism and a serious attitude as scummy?

Aisa

Why is T3's 15 bad vs no comment on Bella's 13?

Can you elaborate on these two reads?

How do you get Titus as town on so little interaction? Even if you have a read on their meta?

@Aisa

- are you talking about 69? Also, same question as above with the additional thought of does anything in 159 sway you one way or the other?

why do you read effort as towny?

Spoiler: you guys so far

[Black]

Ok that video is hilarious but my question wasn't that difficult

[JupiterXV]

OutWorld is currently one of the towniest players atm to me. I think their initial posts were a good way of getting content out and while their reads weren't especially substantial at first— since they

were

vibereads— I would say they were attempting to spark discussion in a manner that reads as town-aligned . On top of that, they seem to have been generally consistent with their thought progression. It feels very natural and their reads seem genuine. I also like their push on shadow, and I find myself mindmelding with them. All of their posts seem to have a decent amoutn of thought put into them as well, and that is why I strongly townread OutWorld.

The player I scumread the most at the moment is a tie between Titus and Shadow. I talked about Shadow earlier so I'll talk about Titus now. I read through their posts and they haven't done much at all. I think the only thing that's substantial about anything they've said is that one vote on Kurtapika. I think I also questioned them about this vote and they didn't actually answer so idk if it got lost in the wall or not but generally I would like to see more stuff from this slot. It's just generally inactive, not doing much. And there's a lot to be talking about so this much idle activity is a little bit disconcerting to me. Only thing holding me back from being confident on this read, though, is the fact that Titus said she was "planning to retire soon" meaning that maybe this inactivity comes from reasons unrelated to the game. Still, though:

[JupiterXV]

VOTE: Titus

[Black]

I feel like Titus is doing more than sky and nono

Speaking of which...

@mod can we get a prod on nono?

[JupiterXV]

Oh I forgot those two even existed

[Black]

@mod might as well prod sky too unless the Oblivion posts count as game related XD

[Black]

Oh I forgot those two even existed

Seems pretty NAI for sky at least. I've never played with nono before so idk if this is normal for them and I'm too lazy to look atm

[JupiterXV]

i mean i guess my issue is that titus is posting but not doing anything i guess? (this also applies to skygazer, i did see them post about gaming) obviously she's posted more than either of the other two but most of her posts are fluff. nono posted like once and disappeared off the face of the earth iirc

[JupiterXV]

Oh I forgot those two even existed

Seems pretty NAI for sky at least. I've never played with nono before so idk if this is normal for them and I'm too lazy to look atm

oh I see
i might check nono's games out later then and/or when i have time. i still have to read yours lol

[JupiterXV]

ooh wait a second