Mini Theme 2318: Cook's Kitchen Sink [Game Over]

[Flavor Leaf]

Roden on Day 2 did hint at having something that could get results on them even if they normally couldn’t, so i kinda believe it.

If they were scum, they were already ready to claim that role.

Their defense of Yessiree almost feels too much for me to think it’s scum.

That's kinda where I am at with Roden.

And my 1208 was spiced with frustration since I didn't know how to explain my actions and reads more clearly.

I will go with you here

VOTE: Naerys

2 posts by Drew later, they're wanting to vote the one who hard pushed 2 scum to fade 'on principle'

that is not a good trajectory.

[Flavor Leaf]

honestly, Drew totally ignoring my entire Roden case is a pretty bad look for them with the idea that they wanted to 'vote on principle' for me actively looking into the remaining players of the POE?

yeah, get over that. Your defenses aren't solid enough. Could they be town? Yes, but the exact defenses Drew is trying to say are some of my BIGGER reasons for leaning scum on them.

Personally, I don't need to hear Drew's side. I understand why a town Drew would do all those things. I have said over and over I can see the townieness. But I can see the scum side of it too. If Drew is town, then yes, I agree with the why they did those things.

So you wanna talk about falling on deaf ears? It's Drew that isn't listening.

They're on Floor 2 trying to climb and defend things, but I'm over here on Floor 6, been past and over all their reasonings for why, and I'm not walking back down to Floor 2 just to hear the same stuff I was already able to intuit when I was in the Ground Floor Lobby.

I do not care on the why Drew did the things. I see why they would as both alignments.

Find scum, Drew. You aren't scum hunting. Your defenses are already set, and explanations on the Why are already there.

[Flavor Leaf]

I've pushed you once this day phase. Get over it.

I've pushed Looker as scum all game.

I've been set on Roden the majority of this day phase.

And I've been inking at Naerys multiple times this day.

You have literally been pushed less than all 4 of the main candidates this day phase. Handle it.

[Flavor Leaf]

Naerys->Roden->Looker->Drew

Is probably the path i would go on.

i literally said this on the same page last page

[Flavor Leaf]

I will admit to not having having many solid reads besides Flavor for town.

Like this was 2 pages ago, and they wanted to 'vote on principle'

yeah right

[Doctor Drew]

I will admit to not having having many solid reads besides Flavor for town.

Like this was 2 pages ago, and they wanted to 'vote on principle'

yeah right

Notice how I didn't say vote for you because I think you are scum?

I haven't been scum hunting, I wanted to have a town blocc with my ability, but then switched course since I thought I could definitely solve Roden........and of course that back fired. So ya, I am a bit lost since then.

I am frustrated since, and forget any other reason you think I may be scum since objectively I could see someone thinking I could be scum because of(my role and how I used it, my read on Yess, even mentioning Elements and you).....but how you kept bringing up me wanting to lim you when that is completely false.......honestly made me think that this is super deep wolf Flavor, which logically speaking is near impossible(and if is true, then I would be the first to say GG lol).

Because of this I feel like fuck it, vote me off.......since I honestly believe we are on the path the victory anyways and I am being a dumb distraction to you right now.

At the very least, I need to step away from this game for a bit.

[Roden]

I'm town reading Drew through effort because his wincon relied on the element of surprise. Last night's triple kill should've been saved for the Final 5, because Final 6 would've otherwise been ELO and town wouldn't know it. But scum didn't do that, they blew all of their power extremely early. Scum gave up.

I think it's just Looker. I think he was expecting to get voted out today, and has been staying relatively quiet because most of the attention is else where. He isn't doing much of anything to try to solve.

I have to reread players I overlooked due to inactivity, but I'm not as sold on Roden as I was before.

I don't think I agree with that. I'd go Naerys over Drew.

This is all he's had to say today. He hasn't given any reasons for why he doesn't think it's me or why he'd prefer Naerys over Drew.

[Gamma Emerald]

Roden on Day 2 did hint at having something that could get results on them even if they normally couldn’t, so i kinda believe it.

If they were scum, they were already ready to claim that role.

Their defense of Yessiree almost feels too much for me to think it’s scum.

That's kinda where I am at with Roden.

And my 1208 was spiced with frustration since I didn't know how to explain my actions and reads more clearly.

I will go with you here

VOTE: Naerys

2 posts by Drew later, they're wanting to vote the one who hard pushed 2 scum to fade 'on principle'

that is not a good trajectory.

This trajectory issue also came up when he wanted to go after you D2

[Flavor Leaf]

I will admit to not having having many solid reads besides Flavor for town.

Like this was 2 pages ago, and they wanted to 'vote on principle'

yeah right

Notice how I didn't say vote for you because I think you are scum?

I haven't been scum hunting, I wanted to have a town blocc with my ability, but then switched course since I thought I could definitely solve Roden........and of course that back fired. So ya, I am a bit lost since then.

I am frustrated since, and forget any other reason you think I may be scum since objectively I could see someone thinking I could be scum because of(my role and how I used it, my read on Yess, even mentioning Elements and you).....but how you kept bringing up me wanting to lim you when that is completely false.......honestly made me think that this is super deep wolf Flavor, which logically speaking is near impossible(and if is true, then I would be the first to say GG lol).

Because of this I feel like fuck it, vote me off.......since I honestly believe we are on the path the victory anyways and I am being a dumb distraction to you right now.

At the very least, I need to step away from this game for a bit.

it would have been better if it was a vote for me for being scum

[Flavor Leaf]

It was a good game, though.

So tell me why Looker is scum here

I standby Looker is scum.

Gonna do a 1-2-3 thing

Nothing is set in stone. Middle isn’t null, just 2. 1 is generally good vibes, 2 is like not bad vibes, but if a few things go one way or another could go either way. 3 is I’m suspicious of and would like to engage in and find more out about to see if they should leave it or not

Elements
Naerys
Celebloki
Roden
Vanderscamp

ActionDan
Gamma Emerald
Doctor Drew

KittyTacky
yessiree
Looker

I will say, all 3 of Tier 2 I instinctively want to bring up to Tier 1, but something holds me back from it. I don’t really expect my Tier 3 to be the entire scum team, could be 1 from each, but I’m feeling kinda good about my tier 3 right now

Looker Sus.

3 of the people who voted with me are my middle tier

I think I had plenty of gut pings on Looker to warrant going Looker today.

VOTE: Looker

Mech wise, it feels rough with only 2 PR's, but eh, Drew's could potentially do really well.

[Flavor Leaf]

Why did I get Vanillaised over Drew who claimed an Inno on Gamma, though, is one of the biggest questions.

[Flavor Leaf]

Gamma's Tree Stump was probably the last Alien Role, Celebloki probably got hit with the Inventor action, and Kitty was the factional kill.

NKA is worst for Roden imo.

[Flavor Leaf]

That being said, Roden cutting out Drew and Naerys is objectively strong, but if Looker flips town, that gets to be thrown out the window.

I think if Looker flips town, we always go Roden tomorrow, and I think that Roden also thinks that, so Roden by play is townie.

[Flavor Leaf]

ugh, Roden looks so bad when you look at Celebloki right before they got Frail. Just overall NKA, Drew action, and Yessiree defense, Roden looks ROUGH.

However, there's a few VCA that would require 3 scum real close together that look kinda good for Roden and Drew.

I think let's just go Looker. it makes sense to go them before Naerys based on bus drive anyways.

[Roden]

@mod

: Can we please get a fast night if the game continues?

[Flavor Leaf]

Like I'm also trying to elicit reactions, i feel that should be clear.

[Flavor Leaf]

I didn't defend Roden so hard earlier to not take their read into consideration this late in the game. The fact it matches up with my main soul read all game is more than enough reason to go Looker.

They have had minimal analysis. They were on Roden counterwagon to Yessiree. They claimed Bus Driven action to an action that had been claimed a day earlier. And they weren't even clear about what night they did it when they claimed.

On top of that, there isn't any reason to town read Looker except for 'town only has 2 PR's if Looker is scum'

ya know what, town only has 2 PR's. Bus Driver doesn't really do much for town except muddy waters even more. It has the potential to absolutely wreck scum team if Bus Driver bussed the solo factional kill.

It's possible if Looker is town that Elements was Informed of Bus Driver being in the game, and maybe thats why they didnt use the kill early, so that's something in defense of Looker.

[Cook]

VC 4.01

Looker (2,

E-2

):

Roden, Flavor Leaf

Roden (1):

Vanderscamp

Naerys (1):

Doctor Drew

Not Voting (3):

Naerys, Looker, ActionDan

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to eliminate someone.
There are (expired on 2023-12-07 00:24:37) left in the deadline.

@mod

: Can we please get a fast night if the game continues?

If you would like a fast night for Night 4, please PM me.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why did I get Vanillaised over Drew who claimed an Inno on Gamma, though, is one of the biggest questions.

Drew already explained that part, his role stopped working once he got a guilty

[Flavor Leaf]

Why did I get Vanillaised over Drew who claimed an Inno on Gamma, though, is one of the biggest questions.

Drew already explained that part, his role stopped working once he got a guilty

He didn’t claim that until after I was vanillad.

[Flavor Leaf]

He targeted Roden Night 2, I got Vanillad Night 2.

[Flavor Leaf]

Answer could be as easy as Looker and Elements didn’t know what was going on.

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh right, forgot the timeline

[Flavor Leaf]

Biggest defense for LookerTown is why am I still alive? Like why Kitty/Celeb/Gamma deaths over me?

Answer could be Looker thought it was suspicious, maybe Gamma stump was delayed. Kitty was following where I was a lot anywhere.

Who knows.

These are just questions I’m putting out there. I don’t expect like legitimate 100% correct answers right now.

But these type of questions are why I’m going back and forth a lot.

[Flavor Leaf]

What do you think Gamma? If you had a vote, and you HAD to vote right now, where would it be?