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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:21 pm

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In post 73, fireisredsir wrote: i guess i don't really have strong opinions about it but my vibe is unironically that dann scum arranges things differently

and on the other side i could pretty easily imagine ari scum setting things up this way
any reasons outside of vibes for these or nah?

i've only played with el and dann here and with dann it was only one day phase lol, so I can't rly comment much on the arrangements bar El stuff (and I've said my piece there already)
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:38 pm

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i guess my thought process with dann went like:

i see the groups -> my eye is immediately drawn to dann as someone who like stands out as someone i want to focus on and sort in our group -> i think dann would probably want to avoid this singular focus bc he is dann the deepwolf -> dann probably doesn't make that choice as scum
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:43 pm

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In post 76, fireisredsir wrote: i guess my thought process with dann went like:

i see the groups -> my eye is immediately drawn to dann as someone who like stands out as someone i want to focus on and sort in our group -> i think dann would probably want to avoid this singular focus bc he is dann the deepwolf -> dann probably doesn't make that choice as scum
would it not make sense for the deepwolf player to sit in the bigger group? surely you stick out more in the group with less people to sort right?
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:44 pm

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oohhhhh or are you saying he would want to avoid being focused by specifically you and by placing himself in your neighbourhood he's opening himself up to focus?
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:02 pm

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not specifically me just like the general composition of the group i guess
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:17 pm

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ok actually i guess if he's scum with ari then he might. i could believe that
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 7:12 pm

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In post 73, fireisredsir wrote: and on the other side i could pretty easily imagine ari scum setting things up this way
tell me more tell me more :)
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 7:57 pm

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i think that you would be confident in your ability to not be the first lim in the small hood, and i think that kind of narrow focus plays to your strengths. you can just tunnel a townie and yeet them while not leaving any associations behind

idk if there's like a standard for where people lim first in this setup idr if ive ever read a game of it. but either way

i don't think you being in the small hood makes you more likely to be scum but i think it is pretty believable that scum!you would want to go there. like compared to ydra for example i am a little more ehhh on the prospect of her choosing that path
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:27 pm

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wouldn't it be much more important to not be the first lim in the big hood if I were mafia?

I don't even think the small hood matters.
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:36 pm

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more important yes but like anyone could not be the first lim in the big hood. it doesn't take much to accomplish that i think

does this setup tend to play out with the small hood not mattering? that seems weird to me but idk
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:51 pm

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In post 84, fireisredsir wrote: does this setup tend to play out with the small hood not mattering? that seems weird to me but idk
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:35 pm

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according to wiki there's been 6 of these and in 4 of those they went for small hood first

in the other 2 they hit scum in the big hood and instawon lol

even if it's been higher success rate to go for big hood, it seems a little silly to say the small hood doesn't matter?
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:40 pm

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In post 84, fireisredsir wrote:but like anyone could not be the first lim in the big hood. it doesn't take much to accomplish that i think
i do take this back lol. maybe it isn't so easy
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 3:12 am

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votecount 1.03


OopsieDaisy (2) - fireisredsir, Dannflor
Aristeia (1) - Elements
Dannflor (1) - Afrayed Knott
JupiterXV (1) - Meuh
fireisredsir (1) - OopsieDaisy

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(3) - Aristeia, Ydrasse, JupiterXV

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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 4:09 am

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I feel like if we kill in the big hood, we should be taking the opinions of people in the big hood more seriously than the ones in the small hood on who to kill
The knowledge that there are no partners to help each other in the big hood helps us here
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:04 am

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VOTE: fire
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:06 am

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In post 89, Meuh wrote: I feel like if we kill in the big hood, we should be taking the opinions of people in the big hood more seriously than the ones in the small hood on who to kill
The knowledge that there are no partners to help each other in the big hood helps us here
who do you want to kill in the big hood rn?
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:55 am

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UNVOTE: Fire
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:00 am

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Posts like & have rubbed me the wrong way. They're making me feel like Ari is trying to push focus away from herself/her hood.
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:32 am

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I watched The Giggle last night and it was fine. I liked it better than The Star Beast but less than Wild Blue Yonder. I think in general the pacing for all of the specials felt a bit... overstuffed? Which maybe is just a consequence of there only being 3 specials that are also wildly ambitious. Overall, it's been a bit campier than I like my Who, but a lot of the character work has been spot on. NPH as the Toymaker was great. I have mixed feelings about the ending in general. I worry that the conceit of the ending overshadows Ncuti Gatwa in some ways and also plays into the series' long running flaw of not really being able to let characters go - but the character work and ideas behind it are technically fine I suppose. Maybe, I'm just older and grumpier now than when I first started watching Doctor Who - or maybe my tastes have changed. I did really like Wild Blue Yonder though.
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:33 am

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In post 76, fireisredsir wrote: i guess my thought process with dann went like:

i see the groups -> my eye is immediately drawn to dann as someone who like stands out as someone i want to focus on and sort in our group -> i think dann would probably want to avoid this singular focus bc he is dann the deepwolf -> dann probably doesn't make that choice as scum
i feel like you want me to use this thought process on you :thinking:
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:55 am

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In post 94, Dannflor wrote: I watched The Giggle last night and it was fine. I liked it better than The Star Beast but less than Wild Blue Yonder. I think in general the pacing for all of the specials felt a bit... overstuffed? Which maybe is just a consequence of there only being 3 specials that are also wildly ambitious. Overall, it's been a bit campier than I like my Who, but a lot of the character work has been spot on. NPH as the Toymaker was great. I have mixed feelings about the ending in general. I worry that the conceit of the ending overshadows Ncuti Gatwa in some ways and also plays into the series' long running flaw of not really being able to let characters go - but the character work and ideas behind it are technically fine I suppose. Maybe, I'm just older and grumpier now than when I first started watching Doctor Who - or maybe my tastes have changed. I did really like Wild Blue Yonder though.
Yea WBY definited benefitted from being a more standalone adventure and is 100% the best in isolation. I liked how the themes of identity from TSB and regret/trauma from WBY culminated in The Giggle and hard agree on NPH he killedddd it. The ending feels like a way of being able to put some of these themes to rest to leave room for new stuff to explore, and I do like it *if* it's interpreted that way. In terms of other ways being talked about, yea they undermine so much about the series, and so hopefully the details are left mostly vague and we're not gonna get constant fanservice in leiu of actual well-written stories.

I'm sorta in a state of post-chibnall euphoria where everything I'm getting that isn't god awful *feels* that much more amazing. I am looking forward to what seems to be a much campier, letting-its-hair-down approach to Doccy Who, but I'm a fruity zoomer so like it's no surprise I'm gonna like it I'm basically the target audience lmao. Will be interesting to see if my opinions of these specials change after Ncuti's run has properly got going.
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:57 am

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am i town for being in the little neighborhood can any meta truthers back me up
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:58 am

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my instinct is that ydrasse wants to not be perceived
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:59 am

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In post 93, OopsieDaisy wrote: Posts like & have rubbed me the wrong way. They're making me feel like Ari is trying to push focus away from herself/her hood.
what do you think town!me would be doing differently?
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