Open 898: Don't Fall In The Volcano! | Game Over!

[Aureal]

1.04

Votecount 1.04

Black (2)

-> DragonEater70, Claptastik

DragonEater70 (1)

-> FakeGod

NekoLover (1)

-> Skygazer

Klick (1)

-> Dannflor

Dannflor (1)

-> Klick

Claptastik (1)

-> Black

Not Voting (2)

-> Titus, NekoLover

With 9 gladiators in the arena, it takes 5 votes to remove someone from play.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-12-26 16:28:30).

Mod Notes: the combined mod ISO can be found here.

[DragonEater70]

I would like to roll scum with black one day

Doesn't seem very fair to the town now does it

Rolling scum with you would be fun but I think hydra'ing with you would be even better

I don’t really like hydraing but maybe one day I’ll change my mind

Black town

I'm curious where this read comes from

Nice distancing, I'm apparently too good though cause I'm seeing right through it.

[NekoLover]

VOTE: Black

On what basis? Do you actually think I was fishing for a townread? The townread was already implied...how does it benefit me to get him to say it if I'm scum?

If it was implied, what benefit does it give you to call it "a bit unnatural"?

If I understand it correctly, she was saying that it was unnatural I wouldn't consider her town if I considered you scum and I didn't think you two were scum partners

[DragonEater70]

DragonEater even more town

Read on Black?

[DragonEater70]

VOTE: Black

On what basis? Do you actually think I was fishing for a townread? The townread was already implied...how does it benefit me to get him to say it if I'm scum?

If it was implied, what benefit does it give you to call it "a bit unnatural"?

If I understand it correctly, she was saying that it was unnatural I wouldn't consider her town if I considered you scum and I didn't think you two were scum partners

If I understand correctly, she was saying it's unnatural you aren't saying she's town even though you are implying she is. IDK though

[DragonEater70]

Yeah I still doubt that btw even with your clarification

Why?

I don't have trouble responding to fluff posting as scum

Proof?

You're reading this wrong. I was trying to sort sky with 26, not discredit her. I didn't think the townread made much sense and I wanted her to explain it

Maybe. I haven't seen any sorting from you since then, though.

If I didn't think either of you legitimately scumread me then it makes sense for me to not care about figuring out the reason behind it. I thought it was just pressure

Since when are votes "just pressure"? Especially when Sky explicitly called you scum and I explicitly said I would sheep him?

I didn't feel the need to defend myself because I didn't think the scumreads were very real

IF you actually didn't think that, OK. As I said above, it makes no sense to me that you would think the scumreads aren't real.

This isn't true. I thought it was scummy that sky decided to keep me at e-1 knowing that someone could just come in and random vote me without noticing how close I was to dying

Why wasn't it scummy for Klick or I not to unvote you then?

42 was a joke read. I didn't really townread Neko from that as I explained in subsequent posts

Why would you make a joke read there? I've never seen someone make a "joke read" in this way (I am not seeing I've never seen any joke reads, just not THIS way).

I had a theory floating around in my head that I don't really want to go into atm. I unvoted because I thought sky might be town

Kinda makes it hard to know if I should believe this or not if you don't explain the thought process.

To be funny

It wasn't even slightly funny.

This isn't true at all. I was expecting other players to realize it wasn't a townslip either, especially sky who is a veteran around here. I wanted sky to explain her townread. It wasn't until later that I realized it could probably be because she didn't understand 13 wasn't a townslip

Hmmm okay

VOTE: Claptastik

What changed your mind about me?

[DragonEater70]

Probably going to sleep now

Goodnight

[NekoLover]

I honestly don't know who to sus out tbh; Dragon and black can both be town and this is just a town on town fight

[Klick]

VOTE: klick

Black town

Vote your scum buddy with me Clap

This is very transparently Black's scum partner

[Klick]

DragonEater even more town

Read on Black?

I'm not really swayed by your case on Black but regardless I think Black!scum is pretty plausible atp
She needs to start towning yesterday

[Claptastik]

VOTE: Black

On what basis? Do you actually think I was fishing for a townread? The townread was already implied...how does it benefit me to get him to say it if I'm scum?

It's not that. You're tossing out weak, rebuttable town reads and you're omgussy. Would give examples but I'm on my phone.

[Black]

I would like to roll scum with black one day

Doesn't seem very fair to the town now does it

Rolling scum with you would be fun but I think hydra'ing with you would be even better

I don’t really like hydraing but maybe one day I’ll change my mind

Black town

I'm curious where this read comes from

Nice distancing, I'm apparently too good though cause I'm seeing right through it.

I can't wait to see the pie on your face once I'm gone

[Black]

VOTE: Black

On what basis? Do you actually think I was fishing for a townread? The townread was already implied...how does it benefit me to get him to say it if I'm scum?

If it was implied, what benefit does it give you to call it "a bit unnatural"?

If I understand it correctly, she was saying that it was unnatural I wouldn't consider her town if I considered you scum and I didn't think you two were scum partners

Yep, exactly this

[FakeGod]

I don't think putting someone to E-1 on page 2 and keeping her there is a good idea, because how easy it would be for a scum (or town) to "accidentally" place hammer and evading responsibility on Day 2. Now, if an actual quickhammer had occurred and the flip was scum, I would give massive towncred to the hammerer, but that is besides the point. I'm also not sure if Black was scum or not, because I can see myself reacting like that if I were to run up to E-1 right away, and I can see a scum player faking it as well.

I think the main engine behind the wagon was Sky and Dragon, and I see a strange but plausible town motivation and explanation from Sky's posts, hence my Dragon vote.

However, 154 is so cringey that I'm having trouble seeing scum Dragon writing it. If that is within his scum range, then bravo.

VOTE: Klick

[Black]

Proof?

Here, here, and here. I've never heard the theory that scum have a hard time engaging with fluff posting

Maybe. I haven't seen any sorting from you since then, though.

Then you're either blinded by your tunnel or deliberately ignoring it. I've engaged with Neko and Clap in attempt to sort them

Since when are votes "just pressure"? Especially when Sky explicitly called you scum and I explicitly said I would sheep him?

Pressure votes are like the most common type of vote early in the game. I didn't think I had done anything scummy to warrant an actual scumread, and I still don't. Your case is pretty garbage tbh

Why wasn't it scummy for Klick or I not to unvote you then?

Now you're just moving the goalposts
Your original point was that I didn't have any reason to scumread sky, and that's incorrect. But to answer your question, I voted for sky at the exact same time you and Klick posted so I didn't really digest that neither of you unvoted

Why would you make a joke read there? I've never seen someone make a "joke read" in this way (I am not seeing I've never seen any joke reads, just not THIS way).

I was slightly relieved that Neko unvoted and I felt like calling him town for it, shrug

It wasn't even slightly funny.

I don't care if you think it's funny or not

What changed your mind about me?

You kinda just seem like tunneled town that is knee-deep in confirmation bias. You're reading my posts through a scum!Black lens so you think everything you're seeing is scummy. I feel like this is more likely to come from town

[Black]

DragonEater even more town

Read on Black?

I'm not really swayed by your case on Black but regardless I think Black!scum is pretty plausible atp
She needs to start towning yesterday

[Dannflor]

VOTE: Black

On what basis? Do you actually think I was fishing for a townread? The townread was already implied...how does it benefit me to get him to say it if I'm scum?

It's not that. You're tossing out weak, rebuttable town reads and you're omgussy. Would give examples but I'm on my phone.

why didn’t you vote klick

[Black]

VOTE: Black

On what basis? Do you actually think I was fishing for a townread? The townread was already implied...how does it benefit me to get him to say it if I'm scum?

It's not that. You're tossing out weak, rebuttable town reads and you're omgussy. Would give examples but I'm on my phone.

Do you honestly expect reads to be strong this early in the game? And do you think OMGUSing is something exclusive to scum? Because I don't

[Dannflor]

Black what do you think i look for to read you

[Black]

VOTE: Klick

184 reminds me of a recent Klick scumgame where he made a similar non-committal, half-shade comment about me:

I'm fairly happy with the Black wagon, I think there's potential for scum there but I don't really want to add momentum to it atm

[Black]

Black what do you think i look for to read you

Behavioral stuff, attitude and tone. Bite. Gotcha posts. Things like that

Now why do you townread me?

[Claptastik]

VOTE: Black

On what basis? Do you actually think I was fishing for a townread? The townread was already implied...how does it benefit me to get him to say it if I'm scum?

It's not that. You're tossing out weak, rebuttable town reads and you're omgussy. Would give examples but I'm on my phone.

why didn’t you vote klick

Because I only have one vote.

[Klick]

VOTE: Klick

184 reminds me of a recent Klick scumgame where he made a similar non-committal, half-shade comment about me:

I'm fairly happy with the Black wagon, I think there's potential for scum there but I don't really want to add momentum to it atm

At least you have a reason

That link was me trying to imitate what my take on you would be if I were town
Looks like I did it well!

[NekoLover]

Honestly I have no comment for any of this but i am present

[NekoLover]

Why do people think klick is scum?