In post 578, KawaiiKame wrote:I want to talk to you, who do you feel is scum outside of the people in the page 2 E-1 wagon.
fuck man I dunno
I could just OMGUS and tell you Black and Clap, but Black's been fighting people the whole game, and I don't think scum players go around causing trouble like that. It's not conducive to survival.
Clap isn't... wrong in his points. He's right that I should've known better than to assume town Klick always does pro-town things. I wasn't wrong that E-1 wagon was anti-town, but I think I may had too much faith in people to not do stupid shit.
I like that Clap preemptively looked at both Dann's meta and my meta. He didn't try to flaunt that he did it but instead he brought it up when it was relevant or he was asked about a read. It makes me feel like he's trying to solve the game and I'm back to thinking he's probably town
In post 589, Klick wrote:
Here is something that is bothering me Dann
I think Black's expressed paranoia of the two of us looks rather towny
I also think that positioning to want either you or me out today is exactly what Black would want to be doing if she were scum here
Can you help me alleviate my cognitive dissonance there, because I both see Black!town and think this is too good for Black!scum
I think Black is slightly less likely to want to pick a fight with me as scum
I think the fact that Black has not been pushing this as her main POV of the game but rather a side/conspiracy/pocket read is towny, it's a little more nuanced than I'd expect
I promise I'll read everything that transpired since my fight with Black at SOME point, but I am not sure it will be today because like Black I also got a job recently and have less time for mafia during the day.
And I already have plans for this evening.
I am still anti-voting Klick and will continue to do so until I see a good case against him (which I haven't seen yet. 504 is a pretty NAI post).
Also if Klick is Dann's partner we should vote Dann.
I don't see who Dragon is scum with in this scenario though
Like in a vacuum I can see why 579 looks scummy. But most variations of scum!Dragon should be pretty satisfied with the game narrative and not have a huge reason to draw attention peddling the Klick/Dann theory
If it were like Dragon/FakeGod, then I'm not sure why Dragon is putting pressure on us just as FakeGod has removed his vote on me. It's discordant
It's weird from a Dragon/Clap team as well
I could maaaaybe see Dragon/Kawaii coordinating in this way?
my primary concern with you dragon is that i wonder if you are more concerned with looking like you're brash and self-confident than you are in actually finding scum
In post 539, Dannflor wrote:
I don't know with Klick I like instantly felt that something was off about how he was posting
he did later say that he was trying to incorporate elements of poker or something into his gameplay which i thought maybe explained the difference and he was intentionally trying to play more reserved
but idk at this point i am leaning back towards klick mimicking his town game as opposed to actually being town.
In post 542, Dannflor wrote:
I am not going to be able to explain this in a very satisfactory way for many people because a lot of it is just vibes
but for instance the tvt read on Black vs. Claptastik feels convenient, not actually the read i would expect klick to have, and more passive and observational than actually trying to convince either of these two players of that opinion
this might be unfair because maybe klick's reads are actually better than mine and I'm expecting him to have my own wrong reads, but idk how else to explain this
it feels performative and like klick is trying to replicate a stream of consciousness style thought and read
i dunno this read is less strong than my claptastik read and i might cool off of it when i come back to the thread but at a gut level that's where I'm at right now
In post 553, Dannflor wrote:
there's also an element of I think Klick is a great town player and he could be having an off game or i could be having an off game but if I give him time I'll be able to find him as town
i think there's a certain threshold of time where if I still couldn't find him as town i would be more comfortable limming him
In post 539, Dannflor wrote:
I don't know with Klick I like instantly felt that something was off about how he was posting
he did later say that he was trying to incorporate elements of poker or something into his gameplay which i thought maybe explained the difference and he was intentionally trying to play more reserved
but idk at this point i am leaning back towards klick mimicking his town game as opposed to actually being town.
This? Then I don't get what made you go "oh klick is town for *reasons*"
I'm gonna be honest, this game has mentally overloaded me and even after rereading the posts I have no clue outside of my earlier sus of klick/dann which is even a very weak thought
