Open 898: Don't Fall In The Volcano! | Game Over!

[NekoLover]

Neko where did this sudden confidence come from. You've been changing your reads all game based on the direction of the thread

It's not confident reads at all, But at this point I figure i need to just stick to a read instead of just flipflopping all game

[Black]

^ not really liking this post

Town that is aware they are tunneling typically tries to reverse that or reevaluate

"I'm a new player and I need to hold onto something for my sanity" sounds like a pretty convoluted excuse to stop solving

Well At this point my ability to read anyone is significantly shot at this point with information overload

Then it doesn't really make sense for you to say you're confident that at least one scum was on my wagon

575 doesn't even feel like you're confident. It's super hedgy

[NekoLover]

^ not really liking this post

Town that is aware they are tunneling typically tries to reverse that or reevaluate

"I'm a new player and I need to hold onto something for my sanity" sounds like a pretty convoluted excuse to stop solving

Well At this point my ability to read anyone is significantly shot at this point with information overload

Then it doesn't really make sense for you to say you're confident that at least one scum was on my wagon

575 doesn't even feel like you're confident. It's super hedgy

I mean yea, it doesn't feel far fetched to believe that scum would be in the wagon to potentially get a free elim day 1

[Black]

Neko where did this sudden confidence come from. You've been changing your reads all game based on the direction of the thread

It's not confident reads at all, But at this point I figure i need to just stick to a read instead of just flipflopping all game

You're making it sound like your flipflopping was a choice

[Black]

Can anyone explain to me why Neko is obvtown

[Claptastik]

the fakegod/claptastik exchanges on this page feel like s/s distancing tbh

Yeah my vote on him is distancing too. If you really want to see some distancing, run him up to e-1 without me and I'll hammer him.

[NekoLover]

Neko where did this sudden confidence come from. You've been changing your reads all game based on the direction of the thread

It's not confident reads at all, But at this point I figure i need to just stick to a read instead of just flipflopping all game

You're making it sound like your flipflopping was a choice

Not really, I couldn't make a read at all because either they defended themselves well or someone else became more sus, and now i just want to stick on focusing someone at this point

[Black]

Neko where did this sudden confidence come from. You've been changing your reads all game based on the direction of the thread

It's not confident reads at all, But at this point I figure i need to just stick to a read instead of just flipflopping all game

You're making it sound like your flipflopping was a choice

Not really, I couldn't make a read at all because either they defended themselves well or someone else became more sus, and now i just want to stick on focusing someone at this point

You said your Dann/Klick solve (which you copied from me btw) was a very weak thought in 624 so why are you choosing to focus on a weak feeling?

[NekoLover]

Neko where did this sudden confidence come from. You've been changing your reads all game based on the direction of the thread

It's not confident reads at all, But at this point I figure i need to just stick to a read instead of just flipflopping all game

You're making it sound like your flipflopping was a choice

Not really, I couldn't make a read at all because either they defended themselves well or someone else became more sus, and now i just want to stick on focusing someone at this point

You said your Dann/Klick solve (which you copied from me btw) was a very weak thought in 624 so why are you choosing to focus on a weak feeling?

I didn't copy you at all, I happened to come to the same conclusion, and It's because I find it easier to process information if i'm focusing on one thing rather then trying to read 20+ pages of information

[Black]

I'm still leaning towards klick/dann being scum

FakeGod feels town to me definitely, with me slightly leaning towards black being town

This FakeGod read doesn't come from someone that is supposedly having a really hard time reading people

[Black]

Sounds like a confident read to me

[NekoLover]

I'm still leaning towards klick/dann being scum

FakeGod feels town to me definitely, with me slightly leaning towards black being town

This FakeGod read doesn't come from someone that is supposedly having a really hard time reading people

that was my read at at the time; now i'm not so sure

[Black]

I'm still leaning towards klick/dann being scum

Why do you feel dann is scum with klick? Not explaining his klick read?

Not explaining his klick read, his weird interactions with klick; None of it feels really organic at all tbh

Instead of organic you feel it's theatrical? hope dann is delaying explaining his klick read, hope we know why soon.

Yea and if you look at their previous conversation under the light that DE7 shows (potential distancing) The shift in the way they converse after being called out for potentially distancing, with dann instead of suggesting klick could be scum, now is "klick is town but I'm keeping it to myself trust me bro" definitely feels extremely sus

It doesn't feel like you are lacking confidence in this read either

[NekoLover]

I'm still leaning towards klick/dann being scum

Why do you feel dann is scum with klick? Not explaining his klick read?

Not explaining his klick read, his weird interactions with klick; None of it feels really organic at all tbh

Instead of organic you feel it's theatrical? hope dann is delaying explaining his klick read, hope we know why soon.

Yea and if you look at their previous conversation under the light that DE7 shows (potential distancing) The shift in the way they converse after being called out for potentially distancing, with dann instead of suggesting klick could be scum, now is "klick is town but I'm keeping it to myself trust me bro" definitely feels extremely sus

It doesn't feel like you are lacking confidence in this read either

Yea because thats what i'm sticking on currently; if you want to lim me just go for it, i'm sure it'll be easy to bandwagon me given that I'm swapping my opinion left and right

[Black]

VOTE: Neko

I'm willing to listen to arguments why he's obvtown but I'm not seeing it

I look at his ISO and I see a bunch of sheeping opinions and hopping on and off wagons as the momentum shifts

Feels way too opportunistic, and 668 is just really bad imo

[Black]

I think newscum is super likely to repeat opinions that have already been stated and I don't think newtown is as likely to have this problem. It's harder for newscum to come up with original thoughts...I would know because I played this exact way in my first scum game here

[Black]

Neko claims to be really paranoid but I don't think that coincides with how he has started to townread a lot of his scumreads once the thread consensus moved on from them

[Black]

It happened with me, sky, dragon, and now FakeGod

[Black]

I don't think Neko is solving at all. I think he's just pushing where it is convenient to do so. If you don't believe me just look at his ISO

[Black]

4 people created the E-1 wagon on page 2. Their names are Klick, NekoLover, DragonEater70, and Skygazer.

They held it until Neko unvoted at his earliest convenience, so I would remove Neko from the scum pool.

Skygazer is the one who put poor Black on E-1 to begin with, but it was because he thought he saw a scumslip. If I saw a scumslip, I would take the same action he did. Dragon put momentum on the wagon by being the 3rd vote on the wagon, and my initial suspect out of the group (hence my early vote). I admit I did like 154. It felt a little hare-brained to me, but it could at least stumble through it and see what Dragon was thinking

I think it's weird that this is the only time Fake has mentioned Neko. There's partner equity here

[Black]

VOTE: FakeGod
I'm following the train

This leaves FakeGod at E-2

Also UNVOTE: FakeGod
VOTE: Klick

After reading all that i'm more confident fakegod is town

I'm still leaning towards klick/dann being scum

FakeGod feels town to me definitely, with me slightly leaning towards black being town

can someone sum up the wagon on fakegod? I don't understand why he's at E-2 even after reading back

These feel weird but maybe Fake is town and Neko is just trying to pocket him? Idk

[FakeGod]

What's your read on black?

I'm glad you asked! Here begins my Black town case. (Black's alignment is critical in my page 2 E-1 wagon analysis, as it assumes Black to be town who is under attack by

scum players

anti-town players. )

She is a player who defends herself aggressively through demanding rapid responses, accusing of players voting her to be acting in bad faith, voting her voters claiming them to be scum, changing and retracting reads left and right, oftentimes all caps with rare punctuations, ample amount of AtE, while flooding the game with posts (She is the player with the highest post count in the game). She does not look like she has many allies. Even after Dannflor asked the town to not execute Black in 321, Black votes Dannflor in 528!!!

And she's not trying to make any allies at all it seems. She's already voted most of the playerlist. First thing she did when greeting our replacement was to

punch him in the face

affront him by asking him if he has read anything at all before he made his 1st post.

I think there's a reason why she went to E-1 twice already, and I doubt she'll go anywhere near the endgame. I do not believe scum plays with such recklessness and abandon. Hence, I believe her to be town.

And here is a Black quote to wrap up my post:

Like what the fuck is this? You don't want to sort me. You just want to be right about me so you can say "OoO I caught scum Black!!11!!"

I'M TOWN

[FakeGod]

Which player from the wagon are you most suspicious of?

Klick

Yeah dude, I agree!

Sane town players wouldn't see their RVS vote in the page 2 E-1 wagon and go, "

MS mafia games care about D1 more than most social deduction games. We put quite a bit of stake in the ability to sort alignment through behaviour, even early on. Consequently, our games don't tend to rely on Night Actions to solve the game as much as other sites, preferring to solve through mostly behaviour instead.

"

[FakeGod]

Whatever; I'm going to be salty about that the whole game.

Say hello to Dragon for me. It seems that our posting hours never match up.

[Aureal]