Open 895 - 09:12 PM - Postgame

[Alianna]

2.07

Votecount 2.07

ssbm_Kyouko (E-2): gob, Elements
Cook (1): Doctor Drew
Mizuki (1): ssbm_Kyouko
Doctor Drew (1): Titus

Not Voting (2): Mizuki, Cook

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-12-24 14:59:37).

[gob]

With all this said, one look at Element's early day 1 makes me wanna lim them over Kyouko

[Elements]

With all this said, one look at Element's early day 1 makes me wanna lim them over Kyouko

Isn't that just like, all my day ones though

[gob]

With all this said, one look at Element's early day 1 makes me wanna lim them over Kyouko

Isn't that just like, all my day ones though

Yea im comparing them and I kinda feel that way. Although how you opened 893 and this game is different.

But iirc Kyouko has also been out of her normal meta.

I'd like to hear what other people have to say about those two. I do think the VCA and NKA I did is solid and checks out, aka Ele/Kyo (or me but nobody has the gall to fight me here). Btw the reason i was so keen on being off shaddowez (or any main wag) day 1 was for this reason. To make my PoE day 2 as small as possible.

[Mizuki]

VOTE: Elements


I don't really put much stock in meta-reads, not that I've played with Kyouko much at all regardless, and honestly with the way she's responded to both me and you I feel she's fairly townie. I'm standing by what I said in 861.

[gob]

Alright guys just follow my lead and go Kyo/ele.

I'm not sure which but I'd probably go Kyo -> Ele since Kyo is more easily deep wolf.

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Elements

I don't really put much stock in meta-reads, not that I've played with Kyouko much at all regardless, and honestly with the way she's responded to both me and you I feel she's fairly townie. I'm standing by what I said in 861.

861 was a post by Kyo.

Not sure I get your progression on her.

[Alianna]

gob has requested replacement.

[Mizuki]

VOTE: Elements

I don't really put much stock in meta-reads, not that I've played with Kyouko much at all regardless, and honestly with the way she's responded to both me and you I feel she's fairly townie. I'm standing by what I said in 861.

861 was a post by Kyo.

Not sure I get your progression on her.

I fucked up and forgot my own post number. It was 869

[Alianna]

lucca261 replaces gob.

[Elements]

Dam it gob, just when people were staring to listen to you

[lucca261]

After like six years without playing, that's a very fun game to catch-up and replace into

no huge walls at all!

[Elements]

After like six years without playing, that's a very fun game to catch-up and replace into

no huge walls at all!

So what ya thinkin'

[lucca261]

After like six years without playing, that's a very fun game to catch-up and replace into

no huge walls at all!

So what ya thinkin'

150 is kinda bad

[lucca261]

honestly Mizuki is just flying under the radar. her D1 is 60% not voting, 20% voting on shaddew and 20% on clap. 150 tone feels off. really fun analytical player to read, I just don't buy that a concise spectator-like player like herself would be fooled by the fake hammer (specially when she had just changed her vote from cook to clap one hour before)

like Black/Titus slot. her thought process feels natural. 791 could've been taken from my mind when I was catching up. it's simply chef's kiss.

[lucca261]

the wagon talk by Gob was very good, but I'm in a different wavelength:

The

Clap

E-2 wagon was composed by, at different times, [

Mizuki

,

Black

,

Shaddow

,

D&D

]. 267 and 350
The

Shaddow

E-1 wagon was composed by [

Mizuki

,

Black

,

Clap

,

D&D

]. 600

think it's very unlikely that both mafia would push for a town miselim two times on D1. I agree with Gob that there's one mafia on and one off this voting block. But I think the Cook hammer was NAI in the end, day was coming to a close and Shaddow would obv be eliminated, so she was not really grouped with the guys who tried to vote both Clap and Shaddow.

so I think there's one scum between [Mizuki, Black/Titus and D&D] and one between [Cook, Elements, Kyouko].

[lucca261]

Kyokou is kinda town for me. she keeps pushing back on stuff long forgotten and inactivity on a frustrated town way. stuff like 476, 736 and 786, for instance. it reads to me like town who's disengaged from the current discussion, has a stagnant reads list and wants new content from those fringe-scum players.

a little bland tho

then again I'm not mr. big personality (quite a contrast from gob to be honest)

[lucca261]

liked D2 from Elements, D1 not so much (and seeing Cook + Mizuki on your wagon is concerning). null at the moment. could be one of the players who I need to actually engage on conversation to truly form a read

that's it for this session, think it was productive

[lucca261]

almost forgot to UNVOTE:

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Gob has shown his work, I tend to think he is onto something RE: Elements/Kyo

What's your read on gob looking like?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

oh new guy, you look familiar

[ssbm_Kyouko]

the wagon talk by Gob was very good, but I'm in a different wavelength:

The

Clap

E-2 wagon was composed by, at different times, [

Mizuki

,

Black

,

Shaddow

,

D&D

]. 267 and 350
The

Shaddow

E-1 wagon was composed by [

Mizuki

,

Black

,

Clap

,

D&D

]. 600

think it's very unlikely that both mafia would push for a town miselim two times on D1. I agree with Gob that there's one mafia on and one off this voting block. But I think the Cook hammer was NAI in the end, day was coming to a close and Shaddow would obv be eliminated, so she was not really grouped with the guys who tried to vote both Clap and Shaddow.

so I think there's one scum between [Mizuki, Black/Titus and D&D] and one between [Cook, Elements, Kyouko].

@Titus what do you think, specifically of this VCA? I wonder if you see what I see

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Look at it as an outsider of course, since your slot is on the wagons

[Doctor Drew]

Dam it gob, just when people were staring to listen to you

Not sure what to make of the fact that Gob was starting to really push you as scum, yet you miss him now. Feels a bit disingenuous imo

After like six years without playing, that's a very fun game to catch-up and replace into

no huge walls at all!

I once took 5 years off, is kinda like riding a bike lol. But welcome back, I don't think we ever played since it seems like you were active during my lapse.

the wagon talk by Gob was very good, but I'm in a different wavelength:

The

Clap

E-2 wagon was composed by, at different times, [

Mizuki

,

Black

,

Shaddow

,

D&D

]. 267 and 350
The

Shaddow

E-1 wagon was composed by [

Mizuki

,

Black

,

Clap

,

D&D

]. 600

think it's very unlikely that both mafia would push for a town miselim two times on D1. I agree with Gob that there's one mafia on and one off this voting block. But I think the Cook hammer was NAI in the end, day was coming to a close and Shaddow would obv be eliminated, so she was not really grouped with the guys who tried to vote both Clap and Shaddow.

so I think there's one scum between [Mizuki, Black/Titus and D&D] and one between [Cook, Elements, Kyouko].

I do have to ask how much of your reads are just piggy backing on Gob's reads vs your own take on things.

Gob has shown his work, I tend to think he is onto something RE: Elements/Kyo

What's your read on gob looking like?

I feels like he kinda has an ego that always makes me roll my eyes, but lately when I look past that I find myself agreeing with more of his reads, especially how he was breaking things down

oh new guy, you look familiar

I think there a couple imposters using my name in a hydra, those bastards

the wagon talk by Gob was very good, but I'm in a different wavelength:

The

Clap

E-2 wagon was composed by, at different times, [

Mizuki

,

Black

,

Shaddow

,

D&D

]. 267 and 350
The

Shaddow

E-1 wagon was composed by [

Mizuki

,

Black

,

Clap

,

D&D

]. 600

think it's very unlikely that both mafia would push for a town miselim two times on D1. I agree with Gob that there's one mafia on and one off this voting block. But I think the Cook hammer was NAI in the end, day was coming to a close and Shaddow would obv be eliminated, so she was not really grouped with the guys who tried to vote both Clap and Shaddow.

so I think there's one scum between [Mizuki, Black/Titus and D&D] and one between [Cook, Elements, Kyouko].

@Titus what do you think, specifically of this VCA? I wonder if you see what I see

Care to share what you see?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

snip

Gob has shown his work, I tend to think he is onto something RE: Elements/Kyo

What's your read on gob looking like?

I feels like he kinda has an ego that always makes me roll my eyes, but lately when I look past that I find myself agreeing with more of his reads, especially how he was breaking things down

oh new guy, you look familiar

I think there a couple imposters using my name in a hydra, those bastards

the wagon talk by Gob was very good, but I'm in a different wavelength:

The

Clap

E-2 wagon was composed by, at different times, [

Mizuki

,

Black

,

Shaddow

,

D&D

]. 267 and 350
The

Shaddow

E-1 wagon was composed by [

Mizuki

,

Black

,

Clap

,

D&D

]. 600

think it's very unlikely that both mafia would push for a town miselim two times on D1. I agree with Gob that there's one mafia on and one off this voting block. But I think the Cook hammer was NAI in the end, day was coming to a close and Shaddow would obv be eliminated, so she was not really grouped with the guys who tried to vote both Clap and Shaddow.

so I think there's one scum between [Mizuki, Black/Titus and D&D] and one between [Cook, Elements, Kyouko].

@Titus what do you think, specifically of this VCA? I wonder if you see what I see

Care to share what you see?

In order:
That doesn't exactly answer my question but I assume you were TRing gob before the replacement,

because you agree with his reads

? Anything more specific than that?

New guy is lucca - his avatar looks familiar I think we may have played together once a long time ago. I'm a meta-diver though so I might have just read a game he was in with someone I was meta-diving at some point.

Not yet, no. I want to know what Titus thinks of it, she's known to be good at VCA and I want to know what she makes of that.