open 896: describing conker (game over)

[Elements]

Bloop

[Elements]

Ima sleep
Will be around before day end

[shiki]

i, want to believe in ydrasse

[shiki]

just such a limited benefit to range of stances

like oopsiedaisy defense does not really feel +partner because then stance towards me doesn't make any sense especially! since oopsiedaisy not pushing me either and both off wagon there with opportunity to push it over

[Skygazer]

votecount 1.18

OopsieDaisy (3) - Elements, Dannflor, Aristeia
Aristeia (2) - Afrayed Knott, Meuh
Elements (2) - OopsieDaisy, fireisredsir
Dannflor (1) - shiki

not voting

(1) - Ydrasse

with nine alive, it takes five to give someone the plague. day one ends in (expired on 2023-12-20 15:30:00).

mod notes:

[shiki]

also there was wagon deflating interaction with meuh which like,

would scum!ydrasse just be going out of way to have associatives with everyone in big group then?

there was pretty cheeky early game interaction with dannflor as well i guess

just seems unlikely yeah

[Dannflor]

VOTE: elements

[Dannflor]

also was thinking that elements!scum might just make everything make more sense earlier tonight

Maybe exactly with afrayed still

[Dannflor]

don’t really think aristeia not caring about the game reads red

[fireisredsir]

that one i think could go either way but yeah not specifically a scum thing

[OopsieDaisy]

going to sleep soon. keeping my vote on el for the time being, should be around 2 hours before day end if i'm needed then.

[Afrayed Knott]

I really don’t know where to start. And it’s my fault for not being active here. My thoughts on just one aspect of what I have been reading But a lot of what I am reading after Shiki’s catch up seems to be The Shiki and Elements show.

Spoiler:

The back and forth between them both began as a good read and provides some information on the statically reasons we should lim from one hood or the other, but 1. Hasn’t this already been discussed and 2. it is distracting when trying to read into what people are thinking. Is it deliberate? Just a thought.

Although I didn’t vibe Black as scum and was liking her input just before she subbed out. Then Shiki came in and it really felt like a breath of fresh air. Her initial thoughts on the split highlight Ari and Ydr as possibly choosing the small neighbourhood composition 787 , but that is her talking to Elements and likening their vote on Jupiter before the slot subbed out. Then goes onto question Fire’s thoughts on Elements and Ydra, so ok seems a balanced approach at that stage. There’s a lot of back and forth between them Shiki/El even at an early stage of her entering the game. But then she gets stuck on Dann for a while, his not taking notice of the slot that Shiki is in for example. I am caught on 800 where she question’s ScumDann putting Ari into the small hood based on Ari being difficult to end game, but surely that would be a possible move by anyone who knows Ari’s play, including Shiki? But during her catch up which she concludes at 830 she does I think engage with almost everyone in the game.

There is then a period of interaction with Dann based off her feeling that Dann was avoiding Black, or do I have that wrong? No, I’m sure that’s the hang up. For me it’s a null thing, Dann blanks a lot of people in games, well that’s my experience of him, he even has blanked me. Then the vote on Dann. Dann is pushing her to do something and asks her to place a vote on him and she does?? On the face of it, Dann’s response is how I would now expect Dann to react, by explaining his thoughts on why he pushed her, but that is not alignment indicative for me, well not yet. Her response with the vote seems towny to be frank, I would probably do the same. But then 863 seems mute and diluted from the feeling of confidence in her earlier interactions.

I don’t get 885 , ok it’s a naked vote from El, but ?And that is when the El and Shiki show begins. But to be fair Dann is also involved along with Ydr. Although they aren’t caught up in the statistics of shooting in which hood. Although the discussion does evolve into if we lim A the B and c are solved, so ok. But even so. Dann said it best 945 because it did but I have to go stale, it seems driven by Shiki, although maybe that’s her style to keep banging a drum until everyone else joins in. But El was complicit in stroking the fires (not Fire - as they were keeping their head down). Even after being asked to move on, it continues.

But seriously a lot of time wasted by the pair of them, and it sort of drives me to consider an El/Shiki scum team.


I need to read other players now and as this has taken me 2 hours to look at and I need a break. More later.

[Afrayed Knott]

EBWOP

we lim A

then

B and

C

are solved, so ok. But even so. Dann said it best 945 because it did

but I have to

go stale

[Afrayed Knott]

VOTE: Shiki

[Elements]

But seriously a lot of time wasted by the pair of them, and it sort of drives me to consider an El/Shiki scum team.

Wild take

[Elements]

Does VOTE: Dann often vote hop at end?

[Elements]

*eod

[shiki]

uhh,

well not entirely sure how much sense afrayed knott’s vote/stance makes for the proposed elements/afrayed knott scumteam


need comp to respond to 1286 - will be around in ~1 hour then on and off through deadline

[OopsieDaisy]

oh hey i can't count i thought we were 2 hours away from deadline not 4

[OopsieDaisy]

i'm voting el right now and am happy for that to flip, but can be convinced to move to ari if need be. i don't think el/afrayed is the only team el works with. not interested in a big hood flip.

[OopsieDaisy]

afrayed doesn't even really seem aware of how close we are to deadline but i feel like scum woulda been chatting about it in the pt so that makes me think afrayed is townie

[OopsieDaisy]

Hello everyone. Sorry I’ve been missing, but I have been getting ready for a flight from Dubai to Calgary, I will try to post tomorrow before wheels up

wait this post exists im dumb

[OopsieDaisy]

idk why frayed is suddenly pushing shiki then, we need to consolodate at this point rather than continuing to try and find more options.

[OopsieDaisy]

tho the above post may be motivated by my want to go and play league of legends instead of stare at the game for the next 4 hours lmao

[shiki]

I am caught on 800 where she question’s ScumDann putting Ari into the small hood based on Ari being difficult to end game, but surely that would be a possible move by anyone who knows Ari’s play, including Shiki?

well, uh, i could not have put aristeia into the small neighbourhood because a) i am town but also b) i wasn't here when the neighbourhood's were chosen regardless? (if i were i think scums likely would have put me in the large group nonetheless? and assumed they'd probably have to nightkill me but i think placing me in the small neighbourhood puts different constraints on the scumteam than placing town!aristeia would {town generally more likely to take care of aristeia issue for the scumteam, aristeia more likely to actually solve the game so want built in clock, do not want to have to commit to nightkilling aristeia without knowing how she'll be read by the game})

and how i was thinking about it scum!aristeia would generally only be in the small neighbourhood if partnered with another strong scum player and dannflor's thoughts regarding what scum would do with the split seemed kinda hmm to me like they were distancing from the actual split and not really thinking about what scum would do with the like 'harder to play scum from the small neighbourhood thing' - like sure maybe in some ways but the scum player trying to endgame 80% of the time maybe more is the one in the big neighbourhood i assume so it seemed odd to me