Open 897 - Cop 17er [DAY 6]

[yessiree]

hmmm

on the one hand i think firebringer is scum
on the other hand that is actually a pretty good case

yess could be angry town here sure
but could also be scum that is annoyed the argument against them boils down to
they are doing the correct plays but just do not seem to vibe town

@yess, it isn't even a case really, it's just...this. do you wanna link me a town and scum game? It's not that I'm confident reading you, so like fair, I'll put the work in, I just am trying to be more confident generally in trusting those early reads for....personal reasons.


You did mention the bussing thing though, which iirc came from FB. Do you wanna talk to me more about that?

ok I see the merit in that, I dig first impression reads, as they often have a pretty good accuracy, like my first impression read of kyouko this game
but i just dont think it's wise to use that as the sole basis to form ur read on someone, especially when are content that can be used to refine/influence that read

town game: viewtopic.php?t=91553
scum game: viewtopic.php?t=91915

i forget who was pushing me bussing Titus, I think a lot people agreed it was more likely scum heavily bussed Titus and that I was one of the candidates (?)
i have to go back to look, but i also did mention i think we're more likely to hit scum off wagon

[yessiree]

I can dig your read on her, maybe read Boons Ahoy for actual scumTheta as well(which I might too to refresh my memory.......bonus that I was scum that game as well)

is that one also what FB linked a while ago?

[Bellaphant]

Bella what is with the new avi

She's Skye! I took the klickiphants to the cinema to see it yesterday.

[usesPython]

hmmm

on the one hand i think firebringer is scum
on the other hand that is actually a pretty good case

yess could be angry town here sure
but could also be scum that is annoyed the argument against them boils down to
they are doing the correct plays but just do not seem to vibe town

@yess, it isn't even a case really, it's just...this. do you wanna link me a town and scum game? It's not that I'm confident reading you, so like fair, I'll put the work in, I just am trying to be more confident generally in trusting those early reads for....personal reasons.


You did mention the bussing thing though, which iirc came from FB. Do you wanna talk to me more about that?

ok I see the merit in that, I dig first impression reads, as they often have a pretty good accuracy, like my first impression read of kyouko this game
but i just dont think it's wise to use that as the sole basis to form ur read on someone, especially when are content that can be used to refine/influence that read

town game: viewtopic.php?t=91553
scum game: viewtopic.php?t=91915

i forget who was pushing me bussing Titus, I think a lot people agreed it was more likely scum heavily bussed Titus and that I was one of the candidates (?)
i have to go back to look, but i also did mention i think we're more likely to hit scum off wagon

I just realised we played a game with you as town, we should probably reread that

[yessiree]

I just realised we played a game with you as town, we should probably reread that

incidentally that game is a pretty good baseline for scum!Drew

[usesPython]

ok reread our progression that game, we went from yes town to yes null through that game whereas in divide and conquer we were townreading to hard scumreading you that game so your scumtell might just straight up be being obvious

UNVOTE:

[yessiree]

ok reread our progression that game, we went from yes town to yes null through that game whereas in divide and conquer we were townreading to hard scumreading you that game so your scumtell might just straight up be being obvious

UNVOTE:

well to be fair in divide and conquer i was in small hood with u, so i literally had to be either town or scum from ur pov

[usesPython]

ok reread our progression that game, we went from yes town to yes null through that game whereas in divide and conquer we were townreading to hard scumreading you that game so your scumtell might just straight up be being obvious

UNVOTE:

well to be fair in divide and conquer i was in small hood with u, so i literally had to be either town or scum from ur pov

nah it's different, we were coming at the yes scumread there from an independent "yes scum" as opposed to "yes is scummier than invis so yes scum"

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: yessirree

Too casual by far

[Bellaphant]

I will read the games tonight, but I just want to be clear that the other sussy thing is votes and cw: I do believe Titus was bussed (and If I was scum with both of you I'd rather keep you alive), you were on the dragon wagon, and it seems super hard to actually get votes on you:: we start wagonning you and like five votes popped up for nearys instantly - I guess this is something you could give your thoughts on

[yessiree]

I will read the games tonight, but I just want to be clear that the other sussy thing is votes and cw: I do believe Titus was bussed (and If I was scum with both of you I'd rather keep you alive), you were on the dragon wagon, and it seems super hard to actually get votes on you:: we start wagonning you and like five votes popped up for nearys instantly - I guess this is something you could give your thoughts on

this is a super weird question to ask me here? wouldn't this be something you should comment on if you think you're pushing scum!me and my teammates are coming to my defense by voting counter wagons?

The simple answer to this is just that there was never any compelling scum case me so people aren't inclined to join? cause i dunno what else to tell you, I think you're just hyper focused on my wagons since you're the one championing it? iirc the events that happened today - people were already pushing Naerys (Gamme)/RCE early today but there was only a wagon on RCE, and when Mueh came back there was a burst of activity, the wagon on RCE dissolved so the new votes just kinda happened to coincide between Naerys and me

I never voted on any of my counter wagons today because they don't align with my gamestate read, the only counter wagon i hopped on was Titus but that was yesterday

[yessiree]

(and If I was scum with both of you I'd rather keep you alive)

also why would scum keep me alive over Titus if we were all scum together?

[usesPython]

(and If I was scum with both of you I'd rather keep you alive)

also why would scum keep me alive over Titus if we were all scum together?

Because titus was doing basically nothing and pretty much no one townread her whereas you were like actually doing stuff

(Not saying you're scum here that's just the reason to bus titus over 90% of the playerlist yesterday)

[Gamma Emerald]

@Gamma I am going to need you to effort more here

???

[Bellaphant]

(and If I was scum with both of you I'd rather keep you alive)

also why would scum keep me alive over Titus if we were all scum together?

Because titus was doing basically nothing and pretty much no one townread her whereas you were like actually doing stuff

(Not saying you're scum here that's just the reason to bus titus over 90% of the playerlist yesterday)

I don't think I've ever been this deep in someone's pocket.

But yes. Like, scum would obviously chose you (or anyone) over Titus, plus the cred that comes with it

[Naerys]

Okay, for today there are main three suspects: yessiree, myself, davesaz
As for myself, i am town. Whenever you feel some concer about me, feel free to throw it at me. I will answer them as best as i can, even if i sometimes yell my frustration out.

yessiree

- Well he is hard to read for me, played only one game with him, where he was alien. And i have to admit that i basically spent whole game following Flavor without paying much attention, so its quite hard for me to compare yessiree in that game with him here. I will be frank, i dont like his levity. Is he always like this? That faked hammer is giving me bad vibes.
@yessiree Who are your solid town reads and whom do you SR?

davesaz

- I am getting town vibes from dave. He is sorting people and their actions. I personally like his inputs, he is observant and calm. I dont see any manipulations or hidden agenda going on there. I need to look at why FB is voting him, beceause i dont see this dave to be scummy at all.
Dave, who is the most towny person for you?

Out of these 2, yessiree looks worse.

[usesPython]

Did RCE do something townie or did they just go dark until everyone forgot about them and moved on?

[Theta Alpine]

people think rce will be better readable later on in the game if i recall correctly

[usesPython]

at this rate it's looking like there wont be an RCE to read

VOTE: rce

[RCEnigma]

I’m gonna try to get active again once I’m somewhat healthy but if I’m the lim here it’s whatever I’ll dump some updated thoughts.

So my wagon not having a counterwagon was interesting. Idk how it dissolved but if the same slots moved to a new wagon it’s likely just town led and scum were content letting it hang. I know a few slots were defending me (Dave,Bella) Dave’s back and forth a with gamma felt more like coming to a solid conclusion based on what he was seeing over just pocketing me or trying to find a way on to my wagon and not draw suspicion. I don’t feel as solid about Bella. I tend to just townread them by default. So I’m opting to just let other slots figure it out there.

Not a fan of any of the wagons rn, Dave is probably my top town, still think yessir is town, naerys probably town.

[RCEnigma]

I will read the games tonight, but I just want to be clear that the other sussy thing is votes and cw: I do believe Titus was bussed (and If I was scum with both of you I'd rather keep you alive), you were on the dragon wagon, and it seems super hard to actually get votes on you:: we start wagonning you and like five votes popped up for nearys instantly - I guess this is something you could give your thoughts on

this is a super weird question to ask me here? wouldn't this be something you should comment on if you think you're pushing scum!me and my teammates are coming to my defense by voting counter wagons?

The simple answer to this is just that there was never any compelling scum case me so people aren't inclined to join? cause i dunno what else to tell you, I think you're just hyper focused on my wagons since you're the one championing it? iirc the events that happened today - people were already pushing Naerys (Gamme)/RCE early today but there was only a wagon on RCE, and when Mueh came back there was a burst of activity, the wagon on RCE dissolved so the new votes just kinda happened to coincide between Naerys and me

I never voted on any of my counter wagons today because they don't align with my gamestate read, the only counter wagon i hopped on was Titus but that was yesterday

Bella having this read is pretty valid. I spent a bit evaluating my read once the naerys counterwagon popped up because like I said I had no counterwagon, pressure moved to you and naerys caught heat directly after.

I don’t think it indicates you being scum but scumreading that chain of events is fair.

[RCEnigma]

I’d be fine with drew, furtive, or theta.

[Bellaphant]

I will read the games tonight, but I just want to be clear that the other sussy thing is votes and cw: I do believe Titus was bussed (and If I was scum with both of you I'd rather keep you alive), you were on the dragon wagon, and it seems super hard to actually get votes on you:: we start wagonning you and like five votes popped up for nearys instantly - I guess this is something you could give your thoughts on

this is a super weird question to ask me here? wouldn't this be something you should comment on if you think you're pushing scum!me and my teammates are coming to my defense by voting counter wagons?

The simple answer to this is just that there was never any compelling scum case me so people aren't inclined to join? cause i dunno what else to tell you, I think you're just hyper focused on my wagons since you're the one championing it? iirc the events that happened today - people were already pushing Naerys (Gamme)/RCE early today but there was only a wagon on RCE, and when Mueh came back there was a burst of activity, the wagon on RCE dissolved so the new votes just kinda happened to coincide between Naerys and me

I never voted on any of my counter wagons today because they don't align with my gamestate read, the only counter wagon i hopped on was Titus but that was yesterday

Sorry, I guess I wanted more thoughts about nearys and rce and maybe Dave: people who have been counters to you. Like rce just said, the wagons today all feel /weird/ and I was trying to see if you'd picked up on that.

[Doctor Drew]

I’d be fine with drew, furtive, or theta.

Unless it is about buying me a beer, explain.

[Theta Alpine]

hmm i have some rum i am saving for tonight myself