Open 899 - The Pizza Kids Coalition [Game Over]

[Appearance]

implo and t3 prob town for now.

[Appearance]

btw, i just realised my browser messes up the font that prism uses for the vcs

[DragonEater70]

implo and t3 prob town for now.

I disagree, implo is prob scum

T3 is null but has slight town equity if implo is scum due to unlikeliness of TRing own partner alone, IMO.

VOTE: implo

[Klick]

HURT: DragonEater70

[DragonEater70]

Confession: the other day I had the opportunity to eat pizza and I gave it up for a chicken wrap, because I was tired of pizza.

Yes, I'm a heretic. VOTE: Dragon


Also, HEAL: Klick in the hopes he's town again and we just lick this game in 20 pages.

ya

"ya" as in "ya Klick is town"?

HURT: Klick

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y?

It was just a reaction test to get some AI content, but it's pointless now since we already have AI content from people interacting with imp's reads.

[DragonEater70]

HURT: DragonEater70

y?

[DragonEater70]

To clarify I faked an SR of Klick ehen I had no read on him at all

[Klick]

HURT: DragonEater70

y?

To clarify I faked an SR of Klick ehen I had no read on him at all

Because I picked up on this and wanted to decide whether you were doing it because of that reason, or because you were scum unsure of how to interact with me not responding to you

[DragonEater70]

HURT: DragonEater70

y?

To clarify I faked an SR of Klick ehen I had no read on him at all

Because I picked up on this and wanted to decide whether you were doing it because of that reason, or because you were scum unsure of how to interact with me not responding to you

Oh nice

We read each other well, then

[DragonEater70]

HEAL: Klick, Appearance, Dragon

[DeasVail]

why appearance?

[Klick]

Anything in particular speaking to you yet, DV?

[Elements]

T3 townish.

I thought the same things from T3's first post

[DeasVail]

Anything in particular speaking to you yet, DV?

I agree with the general sentiment that T3 is more likely town.

that is all i've got right now

[DeasVail]

T3 townish.

I thought the same things from T3's first post

the "ok" one?

[DragonEater70]

why appearance?

It's not a fully developed read so I'd rather keep it to myself until it develops.

Why did you ask about my Appearance read and not about my imp read?

[DeasVail]

why appearance?

It's not a fully developed read so I'd rather keep it to myself until it develops.

Why did you ask about my Appearance read and not about my imp read?

Because of the nature of the setup.

Is it surprising that I would be more focused on your townreads than your scumread/s?

[DragonEater70]

Actually let me just explain my Appearance read

I thought this:

hi y'all!
will post more later

Quickly followed by this:

implo and t3 prob town for now.

Was more likely to come from town. Felt like a towny who didn't plan to post a read or anything but had a thought so posted it.

I also think that having 2 reads is likelier to come from town than from scum, who (like implo did) would be more likely to have a single read.

[Elements]

T3 townish.

I thought the same things from T3's first post

the "ok" one?

That's the one

[Prism]

Some clarification is useful for votecounts in this phase.

A vote for a player is a vote to include them in the Coalition. I am not keeping a parallel votecount for an elimination in this phase.

• Coalition votes must not be spoilered and should be formatted as VOTE: Player,
  Vote: Player
  , or HEAL: Player, or they will not be counted. Coalition votes can come either piecemeal, such as by voting for a single player individually, or by specifying all 5 votes.

• Note that unlike many Coalition moderators, I will not be counting elimination votes nor allow an elimination to be locked in before the end of the coalition phase.

I did not include in my ruleset what to do for the HURT: Player tag. I will treat this as a Coalition unvote or ignore it if you were not voting that player. You can therefore safely use it to express disapproval of a slot.

[DragonEater70]

why appearance?

It's not a fully developed read so I'd rather keep it to myself until it develops.

Why did you ask about my Appearance read and not about my imp read?

Because of the nature of the setup.

Is it surprising that I would be more focused on your townreads than your scumread/s?

It has nothing to do with townreads vs scumreads, I just thought it would be easier for other people to see why Appearance was town compared to why implo was scum, and therefore expected to be questioned about the latter rather than the first.

The fact that you didn't question me about the latter read made me think that perhaps you agreed with it (or dismissed it, if scum), so I wanted to ascertain which one it was.

[DragonEater70]

Regardless, I disagree with you about the (implied) idea that we should focus on townreads more than on scumreads. I am of the opinion that it is much easier for scum to fake townreads than scumreads (because the person they are townreading is actually town, most of the time, and they could have good reasons to TR them), and by focusing on townreads we're letting scum blend in much more easily.

In other words, it's very easy to say "I love pizza and I think Klick also loves pizza", and doesn't really lead to any conflict, whereas saying "I think implo secretly loves lasagna" is bound to stir the pot, so to speak.

[DragonEater70]

I'm also surprised by my sudden display of eloquence, something I had forgone in my past games on this site.

Nevertheless, I shall enjoy it. Eloquent writing is one of my favorite things in the world.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Regardless, I disagree with you about the (implied) idea that we should focus on townreads more than on scumreads. I am of the opinion that it is much easier for scum to fake townreads than scumreads (because the person they are townreading is actually town, most of the time, and they could have good reasons to TR them), and by focusing on townreads we're letting scum blend in much more easily.

In other words, it's very easy to say "I love pizza and I think Klick also loves pizza", and doesn't really lead to any conflict, whereas saying "I think implo secretly loves lasagna" is bound to stir the pot, so to speak.

this is just the wrong strategy for the setup, and also if you think like this, isn't giving out 2 townreads something scum is more likely to do? I don't think this idea that "focusing on townreads let's scum blend in" is your actual opinion if you're giving out a TR to Appearance for giving 2 TRs early in separated posts. Pretty much everything you've posted so far feels like a performance, and to cap it off with this I just think you're trying to throw a wrench in the coalition phase.

[Elements]

Why don't we not focus on either to begin with and just play normal mafia, then figure stuff out later in the day when we get closer to the deadline