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Post Post #300 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:17 am

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i gave up on doing formatted table but here

anti-dumb tells
radical rat for a bunch of posts at the start of the game
kittytacky in post 98 for a quick suspicion of the cult name mechanic
not sure but flavor leaf for releasing their informed aspect that would have clearly mentioned cult being a thing it seems

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theta alpine in post 30 cult was not realized until after day started
radical rat for not realizing the real names were public knowledge
titus in post 134 and again in post 236 cult was not realized until after day started
doctor drew in post 174 for not realizing real names were public info
potentially biancospino in post 270 for not realizing that narration might allow scum to confirm in their scum pt instead of with summary
potentially aureal in post 285 for also not realizing the above


revelations i had from this

wait there are supposed to be fifteen players in this game what the heck it felt like there were like eight
i am not sure about the bianco or aureal tells as i am not sure if narration would change the scum confirmation method in this game or not
not realizing the real names were public info might be alignment indicative as with the names in the public thread i am not sure if they would be copied into the scum pt or not
and if they are not in the scum pt then i would assume scum would go looking for where the names they have to target with are
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as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
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Post Post #301 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:21 am

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uhhhh i guess we just take someone that is lurking maybe
kitty is the only person i might go with for anything resembling a proper read and i am not confident on that one at all
i would want to anti-nominate titus for it since they have irl circumstances i believe and also i am not sure they would actually fake a dumb tell here

there is also like dxtreme with a single post
though i think they are getting replaced
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as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
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Post Post #302 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:57 am

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In post 292, Theta Alpine wrote:
In post 285, Aureal wrote:
In post 270, biancospino wrote:
In post 267, Aureal wrote: The flaky and distracted bit, in case that wasn't clear. Her claim to not know about a recruitment mechanic is possibly ai since the minority Enthusist team
should
know, but even then I wouldn't be surprised if she did have that in her PM and didn't even realize it.
Come on now. We all had to confirm with a summary of our role PMs. If she can recruit I don't buy she could've missed it
Oh yeah, we did describe the role to confirm in this one.

...you remembered
that
part awfully easily.

Dreeeeeeew are we voting bianco again yet? :o
this actually jogged my memory a bit to go back and check and

in rautherdirs scum role pm for the conception game it said that confirmation could be done via posting in the scum pt as well
if we assume narration used the same format for this game then group scum at least may not have fully read their role
though i mean
they would at least know they were scum and probably who partners are

and i have to imagine stuff like them being a cult being a heavy topic of discussion so i am not sure this is alignment indicative or not
Would posting
anything
in the scum PT be considered confirmation though, in a game where describing your role is part of the requested confirmation task (for some of us at least)? If town is asked to confirm by describing it, would scum not also be asked? I don't get scum PMs so I have no useful experience here to draw upon. :?

But also, I can easily imagine there being absolutely no discussion in the scum PT. Feels like this game might actually just be full of lurkscum. Imagine a Kawaii (0 posts)/DX (1 post)/Titus team, there's no way
that
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Post Post #303 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:10 pm

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i mean yeah that is why i am not sure

last narration game rauth got a scum pm that allowed posting in scum pt in general to be confirmation
but that game did not have a bastard mechanic as a factional ability so this game might be different
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as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
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Post Post #304 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:11 pm

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In post 300, Theta Alpine wrote: radical rat for not realizing the real names were public knowledge
Uh, I don't think this happened? Rat was pushing back on Drew not realizing there was a list of names. I don't see anything that makes me think Rat didn't know there was a list, they just thought it might be worth locking people in on them early.
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Post Post #305 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:16 pm

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In post 304, Aureal wrote:
In post 300, Theta Alpine wrote: radical rat for not realizing the real names were public knowledge
Uh, I don't think this happened? Rat was pushing back on Drew not realizing there was a list of names. I don't see anything that makes me think Rat didn't know there was a list, they just thought it might be worth locking people in on them early.
i may have misread a quote
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as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
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Post Post #306 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:16 pm

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Kitty's town fyi.
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Post Post #307 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:18 pm

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Kitty obv town.

I like this new level Kitty been playing at recently
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Post Post #308 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 1:52 pm

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In post 306, Titus wrote: Kitty's town fyi.
In post 307, Flavor Leaf wrote: Kitty obv town.

I like this new level Kitty been playing at recently
Either of you have reasons here?
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Post Post #309 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 1:56 pm

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Also, though Aureal already pointed it out, I do want to state for the record that I shouldn't have indicated any lack of knowledge about names being public, since I did know about that from the start.
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Post Post #310 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 3:01 pm

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i think i might have read a post that quoted from doctor drew and thought it was quoted from you for some reason
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as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
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Post Post #311 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 4:44 pm

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In post 310, Theta Alpine wrote: i think i might have read a post that quoted from doctor drew and thought it was quoted from you for some reason
You caught me, Rat is my super secret alt......my bad everyone.

But ya, I was the one not realizing that the names wee public info.
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Post Post #312 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 4:52 pm

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In post 308, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 306, Titus wrote: Kitty's town fyi.
In post 307, Flavor Leaf wrote: Kitty obv town.

I like this new level Kitty been playing at recently
Either of you have reasons here?
Gut based off content level of activity not anything particular.
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Post Post #313 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 5:25 pm

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@Mod:
Seeing as we have a(t least one) player in need of replacement can we please have a deadline freeze/extension?
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Post Post #314 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 5:53 pm

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In post 297, Radical Rat wrote: Oh fuck, didn't realize deadline was that close.

I'll do Kitty, Titus, or any of the lurkers.

Absolutely will not do Theta or Flavor Leaf.
Oh this is easy. Get rid of dissenters and no rational scum reads.

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Post Post #315 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 5:54 pm

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In post 313, Aureal wrote:
@Mod:
Seeing as we have a(t least one) player in need of replacement can we please have a deadline freeze/extension?
Bolding because I agree
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Post Post #316 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 5:55 pm

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I'd also shift to DV.
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Post Post #317 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 6:25 pm

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In post 316, Titus wrote: I'd also shift to DV.
Do it
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Post Post #318 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 6:27 pm

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In post 317, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 316, Titus wrote: I'd also shift to DV.
Do it
I also totally thought I already switched to DV lol

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Post Post #319 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 7:10 pm

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And here I was thinking I might need to start following around Flavor Leaf or something instead. :P

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Post Post #320 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 8:56 pm

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Ugh sure I guess
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Post Post #321 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 9:25 pm

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Okay that’s unfair. I have found it a bit harder to be motivated here but I should have some time for a fresh look tonight
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Post Post #322 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:02 pm

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In post 284, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 281, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 226, Radical Rat wrote: Preferring pseudo-randomness for tactical purposes.
Can you elaborate?
If scum don't know who they're targeting, we can't predict who they might target for protection, nor can we really draw conclusions if we do happen to learn of a conversion.

We can also assume scum have already shared their own names amongst each other, so a misfire is incredibly unlikely, and even if they don't get their first choice of conversion, Any conversion is good for them, far moreso than a standard scumkill.

It's the kind of scheme I would propose to my team as scum.
Except that if scum believe they would benefit from converting at random they can just... convert at random. Knowing names doesn't prevent dice from being thrown.
In post 300, Theta Alpine wrote: i gave up on doing formatted table but here

anti-dumb tells
radical rat for a bunch of posts at the start of the game
kittytacky in post 98 for a quick suspicion of the cult name mechanic
not sure but flavor leaf for releasing their informed aspect that would have clearly mentioned cult being a thing it seems

dumb tells
theta alpine in post 30 cult was not realized until after day started
radical rat for not realizing the real names were public knowledge
titus in post 134 and again in post 236 cult was not realized until after day started
doctor drew in post 174 for not realizing real names were public info
potentially biancospino in post 270 for not realizing that narration might allow scum to confirm in their scum pt instead of with summary
potentially aureal in post 285 for also not realizing the above


revelations i had from this

wait there are supposed to be fifteen players in this game what the heck it felt like there were like eight
i am not sure about the bianco or aureal tells as i am not sure if narration would change the scum confirmation method in this game or not
not realizing the real names were public info might be alignment indicative as with the names in the public thread i am not sure if they would be copied into the scum pt or not
and if they are not in the scum pt then i would assume scum would go looking for where the names they have to target with are
Eh, in my games I still do ask scum to confirm by posting "the same" in their PT if they rather not do it by PM so I just assumed. But you're right about Rauth's PM in Conception so whatever I guess.

That Rat dumbtell would look really bad if it happened, except that it didn't really. You are missing Flavor dumbtelling names could be chosen, which however I believe he did actually not know
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Post Post #323 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 12:03 am

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i mean i am not accusing you of trying to fake a dumb tell

i am honestly not sure that even counts as a dumb tell with how obscure that is to be honest so take the free town points
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as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
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Post Post #324 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2024 3:03 am

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In post 322, biancospino wrote: Except that if scum believe they would benefit from converting at random they can just... convert at random. Knowing names doesn't prevent dice from being thrown.
The initial question I was answering was why scum would oppose the massclaim suggestion. While knowing names doesn't prevent them from converting randomly, if they're not going to use the names anyway, might as well take the ostensibly pro-Town position publicly.
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