Eminence in Shadow: Season 1 [Game Over]

[ssbm_Kyouko]

She says things that she would say as either alignment, but the words lack conviction.

How does this track at all?

Put Gamma into a

situation

where someone has upset her somehow. She will normally have a heated reaction like we see 1303, for example. I can look at the

situation

that leads up to it and the reaction by Gamma, and see a couple of ways to identify if Gamma is town or scum from it. One way is, Gamma will have an over the top reaction that feels disproportionate to the

situation

. This reaction feels "hollow" when I read it even though the words are meant to be "powerful" when Gamma is making the post. When she is town, the reaction doesn't feel "hollow" to me. I can tell when she means what she's saying fully, somehow. It's hard to explain how I can tell, but the key lies in measuring the cause against the reaction, and feeling whether the words ring truly or if they feel hollow.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

With Cakez, I don't know how he's "supposed" to sound so I can only measure the cause against the reaction to determine if the descriptor "bs"/"bullshit" is warranted. I would have to play with him a lot to get a feel for his vernacular and his tone

[ssbm_Kyouko]

When Cakez is town and he calls something bs or bullshit he really means it - like the things he calls out, you can tell they really bother him a lot. Sometimes he's arguing with scum, sometimes TvTing with someone particularly headstrong.

As scum he uses it more freely and arbitrarily, almost like a buzzword. It's like a LAMIST tell except he's saying "look at me this is my towngame, I'm heckin' mad"

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I dont think either of the reactions these two had to Alisae were commensurate with er posting, and Gamma's feels hollow, or fake, or forced, however you want to describe it.

[Gamma Emerald]

She says things that she would say as either alignment, but the words lack conviction.

How does this track at all?

Put Gamma into a

situation

where someone has upset her somehow. She will normally have a heated reaction like we see 1303, for example. I can look at the

situation

that leads up to it and the reaction by Gamma, and see a couple of ways to identify if Gamma is town or scum from it. One way is, Gamma will have an over the top reaction that feels disproportionate to the

situation

. This reaction feels "hollow" when I read it even though the words are meant to be "powerful" when Gamma is making the post. When she is town, the reaction doesn't feel "hollow" to me. I can tell when she means what she's saying fully, somehow. It's hard to explain how I can tell, but the key lies in measuring the cause against the reaction, and feeling whether the words ring truly or if they feel hollow.

Put Gamma into a

situation

where someone has upset her somehow.

FOR THE LOVE OF HILLARY DUFF ON A STICK COULD YOU NOT ENCOURAGE THIS BEHAVIOR?!?

[Big Chungus Gaming]

anyone voting kyouko needs to eliminate me first because if kyouko is scum then i am scum too but me scum doesnt necessarily mean kyouko scum

[Big Chungus Gaming]

also i genuinely think PP is the best course here atp

i also think T3/alisae are possibly paired and t3 is just setting up distance rn

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I'm not trying to encourage anyone to bait you. I'm just telling it how it is and I think T3's your buddy here but if he's not and he isn't acting on your behalf right now, I'm sorry I have to go into details to convince him.

I do think he's being asked to handwave it in the scum PT though

[Gamma Emerald]

So you're just going to refuse to engage with my rebuttal then, noted. You may think you're sooooooo clever but you're days are fucking numbered.

[Gamma Emerald]

anyone voting kyouko needs to eliminate me first because if kyouko is scum then i am scum too but me scum doesnt necessarily mean kyouko scum

you could also be wrong

[Firebringer]

Having invaded the base that his sister was held at. The seven shadows made quick work of the dastardly cultist. Our hero however managed to...get lost on his way. Somehow he still managed to run into one of the cultist and kill him and save his sister.

Day 1 - Our Story Begins
Vote Count 1.17

Gamma Emerald [4][E-5] - Klick, Penguinpower, ssbm_Kyouko, Cephrir,
Dunnstral [3][E-6] - PookytheMagicalBear, Luka, Sakura Hana,
Alisae [3][E-6] - SirCakez, KawaiiKame,T3,
Whemestar[1][E-8] - Big Chungus Gaming,
jjh927 [1][E-8] - Alisae,
ssbm_kyouko [1][E-8] - Save The Dragons,
Save the Dragons [1][E-8] Whemestar
T3 [1][E-8] - Gamma Emerald,
Big Chungus Gaming [2][E-7]-Dunnstral,

Lurking in Shadows (Not Voting - 1) : jjh927,

With 17 Alive, It Takes 9 to Eliminate.
Deadline is (expired on 2024-01-07 15:45:00)

Mod Note: No current prods. The mod thanks pooky for supplying images so easily.

[Big Chungus Gaming]

anyone voting kyouko needs to eliminate me first because if kyouko is scum then i am scum too but me scum doesnt necessarily mean kyouko scum

you could also be wrong

absurd notion to hold on day 1 when prior evidence of my ability to read that particular player should tell you killing kyouko d1 is the dumbest thing you could do in context of kyouko and me being in the game

the only argument i see for kyouko being scum is "i dont like what theyre doing because i wouldnt do that" which is like the most non-reason to find someone scum.

there are 4 mafia and you think all 4 will magically get away if i happen to be wrong on 1/4?

[Big Chungus Gaming]

deadline is approaching and im against a dunn kill atp, I think he has demonstrated enough plausibility of being town here and gamma is the only other viable option here and i am likely to be busy this weekend.

VOTE: gamma

willing to flashwagon onto PP, so consider my vote there in spirit.

[Gamma Emerald]

anyone voting kyouko needs to eliminate me first because if kyouko is scum then i am scum too but me scum doesnt necessarily mean kyouko scum

you could also be wrong

absurd notion to hold on day 1 when prior evidence of my ability to read that particular player should tell you killing kyouko d1 is the dumbest thing you could do in context of kyouko and me being in the game

the only argument i see for kyouko being scum is "i dont like what theyre doing because i wouldnt do that" which is like the most non-reason to find someone scum.

there are 4 mafia and you think all 4 will magically get away if i happen to be wrong on 1/4?

I'm not saying I want kyouko dead today, I kinda do but if I get eliminated first I see that as equivalent to a cop guilty on her so it's not a priority to vote her off. I don't scumread you though so I want you to remain open to the eventual reveal that you're backing the wrong horse.

[Big Chungus Gaming]

i wont be because theres nothing indicative she magically evolved her scum game to be doing what she is doing now but gl

you can argue she is making wrong conclusions but the idea that her process on you is in bad faith is quite frankly extremely absurd, and your slot is one atm that if i had to miskill a townie, I would not feel so bad about.

[Gamma Emerald]

The fuck does that mean

[Firebringer]

Mod Note: I made an error in vote counts. Starting in vote count 1.14 I did not count 1312 I have corrected latest vote count and updated all others. If you find any other errors let me know.

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like I should at least be reasonably identifiable as town to people who don’t use hyper-specific tells as a crutch, so that comes off as more of a “I don’t respect your towngame” which is just plain rude and uncalled for?

[Gamma Emerald]

deadline is approaching and im against a dunn kill atp, I think he has demonstrated enough plausibility of being town here and gamma is the only other viable option here and i am likely to be busy this weekend.

VOTE: gamma

willing to flashwagon onto PP, so consider my vote there in spirit.

Also, there’s over 48 hours which is plenty of time, and I feel like T3 should actually be considered as an elimination for today since this feels like he’s crashing and burning. In fact, I am getting some mild flashbacks to mini 2213 rn

[Big Chungus Gaming]

deadline is approaching and im against a dunn kill atp, I think he has demonstrated enough plausibility of being town here and gamma is the only other viable option here and i am likely to be busy this weekend.

VOTE: gamma

willing to flashwagon onto PP, so consider my vote there in spirit.

Also, there’s over 48 hours which is plenty of time, and I feel like T3 should actually be considered as an elimination for today since this feels like he’s crashing and burning. In fact, I am getting some mild flashbacks to mini 2213 rn

48 hours on MS with hammer required to hammer is more like 24 hours left, the last 24 hours is always treated as a buffer so we dont accidentally no eliminate.

[Klick]

Cakez is probably viable as an option
Late-day votes are funzo and I'd go jjh as a flash wagon (and Penguin if it existed)

I'm fairly happy with Gamma vs Dunnstral though

[Dunnstral]

Well I would also vote for PenguinPower.

[Cephrir]

VOTE: T3
how about we just kill this, I feel like he's reacting to all the wrong things and in all the wrong ways

?

To me his recent posts about alisae just seem like someone who is thinking about the game enough to want to reach back at something

[Cephrir]

deadline is approaching and im against a dunn kill atp, I think he has demonstrated enough plausibility of being town here and gamma is the only other viable option here and i am likely to be busy this weekend.

VOTE: gamma

willing to flashwagon onto PP, so consider my vote there in spirit.

Also, there’s over 48 hours which is plenty of time, and I feel like T3 should actually be considered as an elimination for today since this feels like he’s crashing and burning. In fact, I am getting some mild flashbacks to mini 2213 rn

48 hours on MS with hammer required to hammer is more like 24 hours left, the last 24 hours is always treated as a buffer so we dont accidentally no eliminate.

This game has plurality lims

[Cephrir]

Feeling uneasy about gamma

VOTE: jjh