In post 1486, Doctor Drew wrote:
But my main point I was making is that I just finished a game where Snivy was scum, I had a gut read on them for awhile they were scum, but had no real solid evidence. All lthey did, especially as we got to elo, was attack my gut read and ask for examples......spoiler: scum won.
This feels very similar to that endgame, you keep pushing that one aspect of my read 'paranoia. I have explained what led to that paranoia and what exactly about your posting as the day went along yesterday I had issues with.......yet you keep saying I am not explaining and just discrediting what I have to say, or at least purposely ignoring it.
Your endgame here is just to make sure I don't look towny at all in elements' eyes, my 'paranoia' was that you just didn't seem as towny as I had been thinking for awhile and pointed out reasons why I felt like your posting yesterday was not with the mindset of town trying to endgame, but of scum trying to endgame.
I can't say this anymore clearly, so unless you wanna discuss Lorna or some more cool deathcore bands.....I am done until elements shows up again
See it from my perspective, I am trying to make sure I understand you before I make any proper judgements. I am asking you to try and explain yourself to me, as when you're using gut as a reason then nobody can do anything about it. I am trying to make sure that if I am wrong on you, I am giving ourselves the best chance we can to get out of it. I'm not trying to attack your gut-read, I am trying to get you to try and put it into words so I can try and follow if what you're saying is from a townie perspective or not. We're in limlo and you don't have an argument against me, vs Elements who I've town-read all game. It would be very easy for me to just push you for everything you've done but I'm not, I'm trying to understand before I put my foot down with a vote.
I understand how you'd feel I am attacking your gut-read but that's the last thing I want to do, I'm not trying to make you feel like I am in any way. I just don't wanna make this vote and risk being wrong simply because I didn't give you the light of day to explain yourself. Especially given when I was in the feeling of jumping to conclusions yesterday, the person I was going to vote turned out to be a PR.
You didn't really point out anything unless by point out you mean show what you feel is scummy. Because sure, I give you that you pointed out what you think as scummy but in no ways can I even remotely begin to understand what you're seeing scummy in that. Because if it's because of the self-pres nature of "Oh I can't be wolf with them" rather than just focusing on finding wolves, that's the only way I can really follow why you're seeing those posts as scummy in which I can only say that it wouldn't really make sense if I am scum knowing Kyo was going out, as a wolf I would have no need to say such a thing. In fact it makes the game harder if I ended up getting killed instead by the grace of the uncertain future. Of course that'd be completely farfetched to imagine I got elimmed yesterday but my point still stands that it wouldn't make sense as to why I would do that as a wolf if I wouldn't also do that as a town. This is me trying to assume reason behind your gut because you're not giving it to me yourself.
If your argument is that I was pushing your gut-read as bullshit because it's a gut-read and it's easy to push you as evil that way, that still doesn't work in my head as like why would I not try and dissect what you're giving me. It's all you're giving me. Do you prefer me to just label you as wolf and just push you for the sake of pushing you? Because it's the easiest conclusion for me to make? No, that's unfair on you so I'm not doing that.
But I for sure wanna discuss more deathcore bands, I love the genre to BITS
