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Post Post #3125 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 1:40 pm

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like there were multiple obvious non-doctor targets
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Post Post #3126 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 1:49 pm

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In post 3123, Dannflor wrote: both bella and jupiter were basically like "kill me" yesterday
Oh is that what you mean. Well I can see now that this helps narrow down who the doctor is. The doctor wouldn’t offer up themselves to be killed so doctor isn’t one of them etc.

But, I never registered this. It’s my first game, I’m not as experienced. Or maybe I’m just fucking stupid.
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Post Post #3127 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 2:07 pm

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In post 3123, Dannflor wrote: both bella and jupiter were basically like "kill me" yesterday
I don't remember Bella being suicidal yesterday, huh?

If anything I think she's been consistently defending herself.
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Post Post #3128 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 2:46 pm

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In post 3128, OutWorldER wrote:
In post 3123, Dannflor wrote: both bella and jupiter were basically like "kill me" yesterday
I don't remember Bella being suicidal yesterday, huh?

If anything I think she's been consistently defending herself.

not ‘kill me’ but rather ‘jail me’
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Post Post #3129 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:37 pm

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In post 3129, shiki wrote:
In post 3128, OutWorldER wrote:
In post 3123, Dannflor wrote: both bella and jupiter were basically like "kill me" yesterday
I don't remember Bella being suicidal yesterday, huh?

If anything I think she's been consistently defending herself.

not ‘kill me’ but rather ‘jail me’
I'm looking through Bella's ISO and I don't see this either, am I blind?
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Post Post #3130 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:46 pm

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In post 3130, OutWorldER wrote:
In post 3129, shiki wrote:
In post 3128, OutWorldER wrote:
In post 3123, Dannflor wrote: both bella and jupiter were basically like "kill me" yesterday
I don't remember Bella being suicidal yesterday, huh?

If anything I think she's been consistently defending herself.

not ‘kill me’ but rather ‘jail me’
I'm looking through Bella's ISO and I don't see this either, am I blind?

it’s there somewhere i referenced the post number at some point gimme a sec
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Post Post #3131 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:46 pm

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or 12ish
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Post Post #3132 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:47 pm

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In post 2892, Bellaphant wrote:
In post 2883, shiki wrote:
In post 2881, Bellaphant wrote: Titus, tell us what to do! ;)

if you were jailkept how d'you want to proceed here / what do you think the solution is et cetera
I thought someone was going to volunteer to be limmed? If you want that to be me, fine.
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Post Post #3133 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:58 pm

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is the one i was thinking of

but that one works too
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Post Post #3134 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:58 pm

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perspective was throughout really
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Post Post #3135 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:59 pm

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which is fine and good want to help jailkeeper
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Post Post #3136 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:22 pm

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What's bothering me is I can't work out if targeting Titus last night was a good or bad move from scum and then what that means.

Scum submitting kill Titus x 5 feels super level 0, but scum submitting kill Titus x the one time they felt she was going to jail the Dr and was right about it is obviously super good.

Outer tr-ing me when I've been fairly openly pushing him/there could be momentum on me is making me reconsider.

Is it just Jupiter? I want shisko to be clear because 9/10 times frayed knots claim comes from town, I think if it's dann then it's going to be Dann all the way to elo, project i just think is town.
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Post Post #3137 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:00 pm

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In post 3080, ProjEctRy wrote: But what does that say about Shiki?
In post 3082, ProjEctRy wrote: I’m not exactly sure. Still trying to work it out.

hm

are there no aspects of my play you have thoughts on though? and are thus basing this on mechanics?
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Post Post #3138 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:04 pm

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In post 3125, Dannflor wrote: am i allowed to be miffed at titus

if you're town it's just as much on us if we aren't able to figure it out from here
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Post Post #3139 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:16 pm

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In post 3137, Bellaphant wrote: What's bothering me is I can't work out if targeting Titus last night was a good or bad move from scum and then what that means.

Scum submitting kill Titus x 5 feels super level 0, but scum submitting kill Titus x the one time they felt she was going to jail the Dr and was right about it is obviously super good.

Outer tr-ing me when I've been fairly openly pushing him/there could be momentum on me is making me reconsider.

Is it just Jupiter? I want shisko to be clear because 9/10 times frayed knots claim comes from town, I think if it's dann then it's going to be Dann all the way to elo, project i just think is town.

it was a good move from the scums - like playing for town disaster makes sense in an otherwise terrible maths situations and town obliged

who do we think was most likely to play towards this is harder to determine

can treat me as clear without concern - if it comes down to me the scums and the doctor the game is simply won

and! (because i love
were i a scums...
logic

were i a scums i would have just gone for the win yesterday with some variant of 'the real doctor should claim game is solved titus + doctor + me just always eliminate + jail in the other pool because that is better odds from my position than, uh, this
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Post Post #3140 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:17 pm

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i'm busy with MUN stuff as well as academics- semester is ending soon. won't be on much. ill skim rq
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Post Post #3141 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:18 pm

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also o7 titus. gonna miss you it was fun while u were here
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Post Post #3142 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:20 pm

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i think i might have an idea who doctor is
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Post Post #3143 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:20 pm

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but i'm not sure if i'm right because i'm really not sure here.
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Post Post #3144 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:22 pm

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In post 3080, ProjEctRy wrote: Surely the doctor didn’t move off of Titus. The only doctor claim we have was Afrayed (Shiki). Even though it wasn’t clear how serious that claim was, surely Titus wouldn’t risk Shiki as a target.

So if we believe Titus wouldn’t target Shiki, then Titus jailed someone else, who must have been the doctor, meaning Afrayed’s claim was false.

But what does that say about Shiki?
i think that this just indicates shiki is town. i'm honestly more unsure about shiki now than i was before. i wouldn't put it past AK to claim doc out of spite. if he's town it was a very good move actually. if he's scum it was very risky but honestly at this point i'm willing to trust that shiki is town. i really hope i'm not wrong here.
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Post Post #3145 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:22 pm

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this mechanics shit makes my head spin.
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Post Post #3146 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:23 pm

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In post 3085, shiki wrote: yesterday all we needed was titus + doctor + town were sure of and tada game won
i really did not want to eliminate skygazer yesterday.
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Post Post #3147 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:23 pm

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could you walk me through

why you thought my 'pr hunting' or whatever yesterday

was unwise from your perspective
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Post Post #3148 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:24 pm

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In post 3147, JupiterXV wrote:
In post 3085, shiki wrote: yesterday all we needed was titus + doctor + town were sure of and tada game won
i really did not want to eliminate skygazer yesterday.

i mean treat her as confirmed town would have simply won the game, so!
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Post Post #3149 (ISO) » Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:26 pm

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In post 3095, Dannflor wrote:
In post 1329, JupiterXV wrote:
In post 1161, Skygazer wrote: i'm wavering on T3, i feel like this could be unpartnered? i feel like scum tend to try and ignore moments when their partner gets called out, so T3 addressing it directly gives townie vibes in hindsight. that being said, i rlly don't like T3's end of day yesterday
i think that one post from black about pushing titus if t3 flipped town might spew t3 as town? idk if that's how it works though. otherwise i'd say t3 is around a null, probably more likely to be scum
also i think his eod was fine, i was also pretty surprised by the self-hammer
In post 1336, JupiterXV wrote:
In post 1192, Skygazer wrote:
In post 1184, T3 wrote: VOTE: Skygazer
are you scumreading me now? your reasoning yesterday was just survivalism, so is that still the case? or did something change?
wait what
i didn't pay much attention to it but iirc t3's push on you was a meta read? am i wrong?
In post 1393, JupiterXV wrote: gang what're the chances that afrayed and t3 are partnered
In post 1647, JupiterXV wrote: read a bit and fonna make my thoughts as consice as possible cuz typing on a phone is painful
- t3 is the lim that makes the most mechanical sense
- hiwever i think his ate leans towny his reactions seem very genuine. im reluctant to vote him
- if titus doesnt die does this game turn into something like "follow the cop" but with jailkeeper? does doc have limited protects in a row or can we keep titus alive forever
- limpoop for me is between kurta, project, aisa, and maybe ccs havent seen much from thst slot
i guess i still think jupiter has the worst posts in the aftermath of the Black flip in terms of defending / hedging on T3

(yes i know this is hypocritical but i unironically think my posts defending t3 are less partnery than are)
post 1 is literally something i had been echoing for ages at that point, it was "clearly" townspew in my eyes, especially considering black was (according to titus) sloppy enough to do it multiple times in the past
post 2 is me being confused about that post because i thought t3's push was meta and wasn't sure if i remembered it correctly.
post 3 is a question which i'm pretty sure no one answered
and honestly i think this hedging on t3 thing is a little silly since i was wrong, yes, but i really was sure that i was right at the time. so i just tried to talk people through my thought process or rather just talk to myself about it in thread

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