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Post Post #2400 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:06 pm

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In post 2396, Sakura Hana wrote: But fine, i know at least one of you 3 has to be town, I just rather it be said because it's something that scum could do, and i'm predisposed to doubt a lot of things right now because i was vanillized instead of killed which leads me to believe scum doesnt care about my solving or my reads.
In the past when I've seen a basically confirmed town PR not be killed, barring weird mech reasons, it has almost only ever been because they have had extremely poor reads, yes.
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Post Post #2401 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:07 pm

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And i'll do as Alisae said and just put my result on my last will i guess.
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Post Post #2402 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:07 pm

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From my perspective I thought it was pretty definitely Alisae but maybe scum might think it was me because I was trying to play like I was
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Post Post #2403 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:08 pm

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In post 2400, T3 wrote:
In post 2396, Sakura Hana wrote: But fine, i know at least one of you 3 has to be town, I just rather it be said because it's something that scum could do, and i'm predisposed to doubt a lot of things right now because i was vanillized instead of killed which leads me to believe scum doesnt care about my solving or my reads.
In the past when I've seen a basically confirmed town PR not be killed, barring weird mech reasons, it has almost only ever been because they have had extremely poor reads, yes.
I mean i've seen ICs not killed for having poor reads. And considering the vanillize was public guess scum would rather me be an IC than a Watcher or a dead player.
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Post Post #2404 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:08 pm

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Yeah, do that
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Post Post #2405 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:08 pm

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In post 2402, jjh927 wrote: From my perspective I thought it was pretty definitely Alisae but maybe scum might think it was me because I was trying to play like I was
Well scum certainly knew pooky got a shadow blessing
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Post Post #2406 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:10 pm

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Speaking of:
In post 1, Firebringer wrote: Diabolus Cult will have day talk. The Diabolus cult may continue discussing the game with their comrades after their death (they will not be added to spectator thread)
Pooky is still helping their team btw.
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Post Post #2407 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:10 pm

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Yeah that might have tipped them off
It would have been another clue if they have another in there

I did have pooky in my townreads day 1 so I didn't think they would be able to rule me out
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Post Post #2408 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:11 pm

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I think I thought at one point that you were Cid at one point when I saw that STD had been given a power
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Post Post #2409 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:12 pm

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These were my reads going into the night btw:

jh927 - lean-town
Party Boat - Confirmed Scum
Alisae - lean-town
SirCakez - Town.
Klick - Dunno anymore.
Whemestar - lean-town
tired person - Town
Penguinpower - lean-scum
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Post Post #2410 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:14 pm

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I've only been vocal about scumreading T3 and PP, however it's possible at least one of those is town.
The gladiate from D2 is still bugging my mind, specially now that i know Cid didn't give power to Gamma.
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Post Post #2411 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:15 pm

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Klick seems like very obvious town to me given that he said he was okay with being limmed because his PR was useless
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Post Post #2412 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:16 pm

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Like i know balance isnt guaranteed although that's probably from the perspective of Cid potentially giving powers to scum.
But would really there be a scum ability that allows scum to kill 1 of 2 chosen townies during the day effectively getting 2 nights in a row with a shot that can eliminate one of two townies?
Somehow that feels off to me, which has caused me to get suspicious of Klick.
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Post Post #2413 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:17 pm

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In post 2409, Sakura Hana wrote: These were my reads going into the night btw:

jh927 - lean-town
Party Boat - Confirmed Scum
Alisae - lean-town
SirCakez - Town.
Klick - Dunno anymore.
Whemestar - lean-town
tired person - Town
Penguinpower - lean-scum
Katsuki - Town
T3 - lean-scum
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Post Post #2414 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:17 pm

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I think it's entirely possible that this game contains bullshit
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Post Post #2415 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:17 pm

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Like sure we caught 2 scum during that night too, but that's... just kinda lucky considering we're uninformed.
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Post Post #2416 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:18 pm

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In post 2413, T3 wrote: Why do you think Wheme is town?
Most of it is based off what other people like Alisae had said about him.
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Post Post #2417 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:19 pm

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In post 2412, Sakura Hana wrote: Like i know balance isnt guaranteed although that's probably from the perspective of Cid potentially giving powers to scum.
But would really there be a scum ability that allows scum to kill 1 of 2 chosen townies during the day effectively getting 2 nights in a row with a shot that can eliminate one of two townies?
Somehow that feels off to me, which has caused me to get suspicious of Klick.
Well, do we not know that Gamma specifically did the gladiate? How would Klick getting the power from Cid mean that Gamma does the gladiate?
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Post Post #2418 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:20 pm

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In post 2416, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 2413, T3 wrote: Why do you think Wheme is town?
Most of it is based off what other people like Alisae had said about him.
Alisae said that "any competent player can sort Wheme" and "his alignment will eventually become self-evident" but I don't think he offered any actual reasoning for townreading Wheme.
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Post Post #2419 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:21 pm

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The power gamma used was a cult factional power

I suspect they can use 1 a night, and possibly 1 per player

the vanillaise was definitely one as well
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Post Post #2420 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:22 pm

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In post 2414, jjh927 wrote: I think it's entirely possible that this game contains bullshit
Do you think we're doing well? We only got 1 miselim left and we're at evens you know, despite having caught 2 scum N1...
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Post Post #2421 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:22 pm

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In post 2417, T3 wrote: Well, do we not know that Gamma specifically did the gladiate? How would Klick getting the power from Cid mean that Gamma does the gladiate?
That's how he got caught, STD tracked him specifically to both Klick and Luka
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Post Post #2422 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:23 pm

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In post 2420, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 2414, jjh927 wrote: I think it's entirely possible that this game contains bullshit
Do you think we're doing well? We only got 1 miselim left and we're at evens you know, despite having caught 2 scum N1...
I think Alisae should have revealed earlier based on the role PM
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Post Post #2423 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:23 pm

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As for the other half, i just think it's more balanced if scum has to include a teammate in the gladiate, of course i guess that might just be me trying to outguess the mod.
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Post Post #2424 (ISO) » Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:23 pm

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In post 2421, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 2417, T3 wrote: Well, do we not know that Gamma specifically did the gladiate? How would Klick getting the power from Cid mean that Gamma does the gladiate?
That's how he got caught, STD tracked him specifically to both Klick and Luka
Well yes, but did you not say that you're suspicious of Klick because you think he got the gladiate power?? Or am I misunderstanding something.

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