I assume nobody since in their theatrics today they said they'd make a PT with me if I changed my vote.In post 2135, Flavor Leaf wrote:Who did they target?In post 2132, ActionDan wrote: Maestro claimed in FG that he was 1-shot neighborizer to a non-FG member.
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I have always included the possibility of one original traitor in FG even though I absolutely thought it was more likely all of us were town. On that I have been proven wrong. Currently I still believe maestro will flip traitor and that's the last of scum in FG. I believe I said earlier that in an extreme circumstance I would compromise on maestro. And that's not because he didn't action but because his role was out of sync with the rest of us.In post 2148, Flavor Leaf wrote: Alright, Dan.
I’m gonna be real with you
You hear that Maestro and Cakez both didn’t submit an action, you see NK15’s role, you see the names all being posted for all of you
How do you Occam’s Razor that all town are in there + go out to defend them that hard
I explained Nk15's role (away) by saying traitors probably get to talk with each other. I still think that's the case.
Let me counter by asking you what you make of Drew's role if their were group scum in FG. He targets FG members only and blocks non FG members only. That doesn't make sense if group scum exists in FGI'll give you a moment to let that sink in-
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Okay, welp.
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trying to parse maestros recent posts has my brain dying even more then it already was
i am not sure if maestro legitimately thought they were self hammering or if that was an orchestrated attempt to distract from the leading wagon
however
if thomith is true claiming then scum do not get to recruit tonight anyways so we can
risk flipping a traitor instead of group scum in this case i think
VOTE: maestroalter of rautherdir
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besides if maestro flips traitor then we know who they were trying to protect here
with perhaps a slight chance of it being aureal but most of the pressure was on dan here so lets be realalter of rautherdir
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I think yeah, just go Maestro.
VOTE: Maestro
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Should we just stay with Dan or go Maestro?
Like Maestro is intentionally taking the fall here, and i feel that’s super obvious.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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I also have been thinking Dan/Theta is possible.
They end up on the same wagon here?CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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VOTE: Dan
I’m gonna sit here for a minute. I’ll be here before deadline if i need to change.
I think Dan is the head.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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As I said before I really don't mind eating this delicious crow together.I'll give you a moment to let that sink in-
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I don’t really like the way your role and his role works together if they’re town/town, though.In post 2151, ActionDan wrote:
I have always included the possibility of one original traitor in FG even though I absolutely thought it was more likely all of us were town. On that I have been proven wrong. Currently I still believe maestro will flip traitor and that's the last of scum in FG. I believe I said earlier that in an extreme circumstance I would compromise on maestro. And that's not because he didn't action but because his role was out of sync with the rest of us.In post 2148, Flavor Leaf wrote: Alright, Dan.
I’m gonna be real with you
You hear that Maestro and Cakez both didn’t submit an action, you see NK15’s role, you see the names all being posted for all of you
How do you Occam’s Razor that all town are in there + go out to defend them that hard
I explained Nk15's role (away) by saying traitors probably get to talk with each other. I still think that's the case.
Let me counter by asking you what you make of Drew's role if their were group scum in FG. He targets FG members only and blocks non FG members only. That doesn't make sense if group scum exists in FG
Drew is just a stronger version of your role. I guess in situations it could be weaker, because roles like Hu Tao would be blocked.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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i will be honest this has me considering dan might be scum a lot more then anything else that has happened so far
but i feel like there is a chance maestro is group scum that just
thought they were at e-1 and tried to self hammer for
some reason
actually this is sounding less believable to me now that i type it out hmmalter of rautherdir
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There are like 5 plus info roles you can't imagine a straight up doc? I also claimed this role if not completely outright 1st.
And Drew's role is not stronger. Arguably the the conversion is the main thing and imo it's more valuable to not block town roles (again presumably 5 info roles) than whatever non converting scum power there is.I'll give you a moment to let that sink in-
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I don’t believe Maestro thought they were hammeringCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Yes either maestro was protecting me or appearing to give the illusion of that.I'll give you a moment to let that sink in-
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Why would they protect you if you're town and they are scum?In post 2165, ActionDan wrote: Yes either maestro was protecting me or appearing to give the illusion of that.-
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i mean dan is the leading wagon and if not having the momentum at the time would have probably been the elim once deadline started ticking closer
so i am not sure there is any motivation there to try and give the illusion of protecting dan when dan probably ends up being eliminated anyways without what maestro pulledalter of rautherdir
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I mention that case to say those are the two choices wether I'm town or scum. No other theory works assuming maestro is playing for advantage. (I still think he wanted to have fun mostly)I'll give you a moment to let that sink in-
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do not have the brain power right now to factor in if maestro is not playing for advantagealter of rautherdir
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Also @FL do you think as the "head" of the snake maestro would tie himself to me so obviously, that I would expose myself so blatantly with pointing to rat, or continuing to defend maestro and cakez so earnestly?I'll give you a moment to let that sink in-
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I got no sleep. This is what mafia doesI'll give you a moment to let that sink in-
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Maestro is too cocky for this to not be a gambit-
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well
fine then
VOTE: actiondan
i can sympathize with not getting sleep thoughalter of rautherdir
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and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
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