If Cakez scum I still believe he can only be converted scum (quite unlikely). Otherwise Nk15's role just blows everyone else's out of the water being able to have a 50% hit ratio from the get go.
i think we can have the fg claim names now since scum has them
if titus had some names of those in their list it would help us figure things out a bit perhaps
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
In post 2325, ActionDan wrote:
If Cakez scum I still believe he can only be converted scum (quite unlikely). Otherwise Nk15's role just blows everyone else's out of the water being able to have a 50% hit ratio from the get go.
In post 2325, ActionDan wrote:
If Cakez scum I still believe he can only be converted scum (quite unlikely). Otherwise Nk15's role just blows everyone else's out of the water being able to have a 50% hit ratio from the get go.
Explain this.
Maestro was a NK15 guilty as he could communicate outside FG (I asked mod confirmed this to me). Presumably non-traitor cult have a PT which would also be a guilty for NK15. so NK15 is stronger than every other role by a huge margin if 2 scum started in FG. So I doubt this. A lot.
In post 2325, ActionDan wrote:
If Cakez scum I still believe he can only be converted scum (quite unlikely). Otherwise Nk15's role just blows everyone else's out of the water being able to have a 50% hit ratio from the get go.
Explain this.
Maestro was a NK15 guilty as he could communicate outside FG (I asked mod confirmed this to me). Presumably non-traitor cult have a PT which would also be a guilty for NK15. so NK15 is stronger than every other role by a huge margin if 2 scum started in FG. So I doubt this. A lot.
The opposite actually. NK15 gets 2 names that would be actual guilties that would be altered by at least RR's ability. If RR targets someone, it would fuck things up. NK would have a 2/5 guilty with hiding, which is the same pool approximately as my names. He would get implied clears at best that could be converted at any time.
Spoiler: NK's role
During the night, you may choose to check if another friend is hanging out with any strangers, learning if they are capable of private communication with an acquaintance outside the Friendship Group.
Spoiler: RR's role
During the night, you may choose to seduce another acquaintance, inviting them to a rendezvous point shared by only the two of you, where you may converse with each other at all times.
You will gain a new rendezvous point for every acquaintance you seduce.
All actions that target you will instead be passively deflected onto the latest acquaintance seduced by you.
I don't even think 50/50 is unreasonable given the circumstances. A communications check is pretty far from a hard guilty, and Maestro would've been able to prove that his communication was a messenger ability, albeit at the loss of a night of telling anything to the main team. But there probably isn't even that much use for messaging your team after the first chance to send a message letting them know you're their traitor, so not even much loss.
"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
-furtiveglance
how soon did maestro claim having a communicative role
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
yeah depending on when the guilty dropped that would have been a bit tough to explain
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
In Maestro's case it would be very awkward to claim who they messaged because on flip they would confirm a scum member as it would be natural for Maestro to supply the info he was a traitor to his team. No idea how the spin would go but I'm doubting it would be pretty.
In post 2321, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Because of their love for mafia, once per game, an Enthusiast can make all of their actions Unstoppable.
Well this would have been the night to use it. If the scum PT was locked how would they be able to use a factional conversion ability if it was shared? Converter / Back up Converter then?
If they didn’t use it earlier.
I also don’t know if it counts for last night with how Thomith’s actively shutting down the action rather than blocking, if that makes sense.
So knowing Dan and Drew’s roles, with the idea that Maestro is starting traitor who sent scum a message, with an unstoppable action, it becomes more likely that one of Dan/Drew would get converted Night 2.
I do think it implies Dan/Drew can make sense as town roles together.
