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Post Post #2425 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:04 pm

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In post 2418, Hu Tao wrote: My savior Roden, where do we lay our votes today?
You're scaring me lol
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Post Post #2426 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:06 pm

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It's either Cakez or Dan today

I think Leaf is right that scum is waiting to see what we do though
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Post Post #2427 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:08 pm

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i have a coffee and it is drunk

so i could in fact watch two people tonight
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Post Post #2428 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:10 pm

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I went from hard town reading Dan to hard scum reading Dan to soft town reading Dan

His behavior in the final few hours of Day 3 and effort in the dance party PT did a lot to sway me
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Post Post #2429 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:14 pm

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yeah that is why i have my vote on cakez instead
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Post Post #2430 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:30 pm

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In post 2428, Roden wrote: I went from hard town reading Dan to hard scum reading Dan to soft town reading Dan

His behavior in the final few hours of Day 3 and effort in the dance party PT did a lot to sway me
What specifically about them
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Post Post #2431 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:31 pm

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I think I do deserve to get faded since maestro had the chance to hammer me and didn't. Moreover I believe he must have recognized the opportunity but didn't take it. I don't know why. We'll find out post game.

In the meantime I will do all I can to try to solve the game.

I think it's clear Hu is converted maybe small chance of group scum. And is currently open wolfing.

I think there has to be group scum in at least one of Theta, Titus, and Aureal.

I am coming around to Aureal as town but it is in no way a surety.

At risk of provoking FL to feed into his confirmation bias I think there is role synergy between bianco, FL, and Theta. Theta's claim is currently the most useful role in the game, and it does align with Bianco's. Though possibly less strong, same deal with FL. They have otherwise played extremely passively this game.

I don't know what partner makes sense with Titus scum currently. That's about all the good I can say. I sense their play has taken a nosedive which might be a characteristic of Titus scum.
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Post Post #2432 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:32 pm

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I don’t disagree with the sentiment in its entirety. I’ve kinda been doing that with Dan all game.

I thought I’d be coming in strong with Dan today, but I’m less worried now that we slowed scum down now.

I feel like as scum he kind of had to start towning it up after Maestro flip, though
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Post Post #2433 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:33 pm

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In post 2428, Roden wrote: I went from hard town reading Dan to hard scum reading Dan to soft town reading Dan

His behavior in the final few hours of Day 3 and effort in the dance party PT did a lot to sway me
A good scum player can manipulate their role and play, especially in a role madness type game.

Dan had to obv town it up after the heat on him.
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Post Post #2434 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:35 pm

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@Dan - in regards to the Bianco, Theta, Flavor thing, you’re taking it at face value that as scum, it would be all true claim roles.

+ I thought you were under the impression Maestro was the traitor?

I think this game as a whole has a lot of synergy on a setup level.
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Post Post #2435 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:40 pm

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Cakez fade makes it so at the very least, IF scum used Unstoppable action by now, I imagine they wouldn’t have held it to here,

If by some chance Dan/Drew don’t have scum in them, targeting each other now means they can’t get converted throughout the game until one dies.

Alternatively, going Dan, and then having Cakez/Drew target each other could have the same appeal, but I don’t really trust Cakez enough for that.

At least Dan as scum would do stuff that would be readable if left alive.
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Post Post #2436 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:46 pm

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Dan, did you copy the paragraph on me being scum from boilerplates are us? I don't mind them pronouns as a generic thing (if you don't know my gender) but you know me much better than that. Yet, I'm referred to with "their" while Maestro is referred to by his gender. Not saying you should be reported in any sense but the language is telling.

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conduct has "taken a nosedive" and how is it related to me being scum? Most people know that I'm weaker early and stronger later,
regardless of my alignment
so I'm not letting you hide behind bullshit copy/pastas (did I meme right?).
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Post Post #2437 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:47 pm

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In post 2425, Roden wrote:
In post 2418, Hu Tao wrote: My savior Roden, where do we lay our votes today?
You're scaring me lol
:lol:

I'm going to be honest. I'm a bit lost and I know you're town, unless you're culted. But I'm taking that risk
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Post Post #2438 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:51 pm

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Can I borrow you until the savior comes back? His word says that Caketh is the scumzors.
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Post Post #2439 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:51 pm

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In post 2434, Flavor Leaf wrote: @Dan - in regards to the Bianco, Theta, Flavor thing, you’re taking it at face value that as scum, it would be all true claim roles.

+ I thought you were under the impression Maestro was the traitor?

I think this game as a whole has a lot of synergy on a setup level.
Yes perhaps you're right. Even if I think it is a decent assumption the roles are true that does not mean alignment is. Normally you would think scum have roles to counter town power but I see the appeal in a cult game of given roles to blend in.

I will think on it.

Yes maestro OG traitor certainly with that personal ability on FG group. Unsure where I gave impression he wasn't.

Synergistic setups rend to be easier to predict and I would like to leverage that as much as possible.
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Post Post #2440 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:54 pm

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Chapter 4 Verses 2395 and 2426.
In post 2395, Roden wrote: I've been convinced that Cakez is just a convert for awhile now, but I get this nagging feeling that maybe he's been trying to perform as one

Maestro attempting to delay Cakez's elim also implies that he's group scum here
In post 2426, Roden wrote: It's either Cakez or Dan today

I think Leaf is right that scum is waiting to see what we do though
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Post Post #2441 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:55 pm

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In post 2439, ActionDan wrote:
In post 2434, Flavor Leaf wrote: @Dan - in regards to the Bianco, Theta, Flavor thing, you’re taking it at face value that as scum, it would be all true claim roles.

+ I thought you were under the impression Maestro was the traitor?

I think this game as a whole has a lot of synergy on a setup level.
Yes perhaps you're right. Even if I think it is a decent assumption the roles are true that does not mean alignment is. Normally you would think scum have roles to counter town power but I see the appeal in a cult game of given roles to blend in.

I will think on it.

Yes maestro OG traitor certainly with that personal ability on FG group. Unsure where I gave impression he wasn't.

Synergistic setups rend to be easier to predict and I would like to leverage that as much as possible.
You talking about Bianco/Flavor/Theta would mean synergy as scum together? Which couldn’t be the case if Maestro is OG traitor.
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Post Post #2442 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:57 pm

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Also, Maestro, if were scum with me, makes zero sense why they would nose dive to save you.

I’ve also been fighting with Maestro all game, and saying they were scum.

I feel like you’re trying to angle to get pressure off of you, and trying to find something that works now
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Post Post #2443 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:58 pm

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It’s a good try, especially after Theta claim. But it makes no sense for Theta to claim that coffee here if the scum team were that proposed 3.
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Post Post #2444 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:59 pm

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No that was ostensibly an argument for Theta being town
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #2445 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:59 pm

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Hahaha come on man
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Post Post #2446 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:02 pm

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Flavor, notice where Dan's not putting it...Cakez. if Dan was groupscum and Cakez was a traitor or town, Dan would have no problem sheeping me.

If Dan is evil, then Cakez is definitely group scum.

Dan could be good and Maestro tanking the lim buys time away from Cakez. It's a weaker circumstantial case (and doesn't require Dan to be good, only not groupscum).
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Post Post #2447 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:03 pm

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I was assuming you were saying the 3 of us were scum because of the synergy through the context clues of you bringing up ‘provoking FL’

For that team to be true, that synergy would necessitate those 3 as starting scum and that we all truthfully claimed as scum openly.

I feel like my role is unnecessary as scum with Maestro, and I feel checking Gamma’s Ascetic claim was a great use of it.

I couldn’t have known what their role was if I were scum nor would I waste a check to see if they were really Ascetic.
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Post Post #2448 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:05 pm

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that would honestly be a big brained play though
sacrificing two traitors before a groupscum might buy enough momentum if they can successfully recruit each of those nights
though that assumes that one group scum going down would immediately implicate the other one
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Post Post #2449 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:05 pm

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I'm not arguing any of that. Provoking you was added because giving a reason to townread Theta would feed into your consistent postings of tying me and Theta together
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in

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