Open 902: Frienemies Blitz | Postgame

[Alianna]

VC 1.05

Votecount 1.05

Dannflor (3):

Naerys, Cook, Ranger

usesPython (3):

Dannflor, light_ganski, gob

Naerys (2):

usesPython, Ausuka

Save The Dragons (2):

Doctor Drew, davesaz

gob (1):

Black

T-Bone (1):

Save the Dragons

Not Voting (1):

T-Bone

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-01-29 17:40:53).

Mod notes:

• Combined mod ISO

[Ranger]

Cool, will you help me fade gob then?

I'd prefer a deepwolf before I'm killed.

I'll settle for a bus if need be.

[Black]

Ausuka seems town as well

Agreed

She scares me though

[Naerys]

Ausuka seems town as well

Agreed

She scares me though

why?

[Black]

Cool, will you help me fade gob then?

I'd prefer a deepwolf before I'm killed.

I'll settle for a bus if need be.

You sound like me

I'm not interested in voting Dann today. gob wagon has plenty of room though *pats the seat next to me*

[Ausuka]

It was a question to the rest of you. Whether you think they were or not. Indirectly I think Dann answered and I had a related conversation with Light about it. Like, I think it was clear what I was doing when I offered a hero solve for 5 payments of 99.99. It's worth contrasting why Python was so hostile to the idea. I don't like to argue with people about their own behavior, that's not productive. I like to ask the rest of the players about people's behavior.

I mean, it very much does not come across as a neutral question. "Why is Python so rattled, is a question I will pose to the audience." is almost like, the definition of a leading question actually. If Python is rattled, that obviously implies they are scum I think. Saying they are hostile to the idea is also something that, if true, I don't understand the town motivation you think is there. Personally, I just see it as a simple response that they don't want your hero solve because it was completely wrong last time, but if you think they're hostile to it or rattled, why not push it? i don't understand your approach here.

[Ausuka]

I am scary

[Black]

Ausuka seems town as well

Agreed

She scares me though

why?

She's really good at being scum. Her and Dannflor give me similar vibes where I always feel like they are playing me in the back of my mind

[usesPython]

{UsesPython, Naerys}
{Ausuka}
{light_ganski}
{Save the Dragons}
{T-Bone}
{Doctor Drew, davesaz}
{Cook}
{gob}
{Black, Dannflor}

I actually townread everyone from Drew above.

Why is Black so low

[Dannflor]

I think I'm comfortable calling light ganski town

[usesPython]

T-Bone/Dann/Naerys, that's our hero solve

[T-Bone]

Cool, will you help me fade gob then?

I'd prefer a deepwolf before I'm killed.

I'll settle for a bus if need be.

You sound like me

I'm not interested in voting Dann today. gob wagon has plenty of room though *pats the seat next to me*

Hilariously this is the exact reason Ranger is against a gob move.

[Black]

{UsesPython, Naerys}
{Ausuka}
{light_ganski}
{Save the Dragons}
{T-Bone}
{Doctor Drew, davesaz}
{Cook}
{gob}
{Black, Dannflor}

I actually townread everyone from Drew above.

Why is Black so low

Are you townreading me?

[usesPython]

{UsesPython, Naerys}
{Ausuka}
{light_ganski}
{Save the Dragons}
{T-Bone}
{Doctor Drew, davesaz}
{Cook}
{gob}
{Black, Dannflor}

I actually townread everyone from Drew above.

Why is Black so low

Are you townreading me?

You are not on our radar, you're kinda just off doing your own thing

[usesPython]

If there's a scum wagon going on right now then you're probably town for fixating on gob instead

[Black]

You are not on our radar, you're kinda just off doing your own thing

I feel like this should make you feel one way or another about me

[usesPython]

You are not on our radar, you're kinda just off doing your own thing

I feel like this should make you feel one way or another about me

it doesn't

[usesPython]

like there's a void of vibes

[Black]

If there's a scum wagon going on right now then you're probably town for fixating on gob instead

What makes you think gob isn't the scum wagon?

[T-Bone]

It was a question to the rest of you. Whether you think they were or not. Indirectly I think Dann answered and I had a related conversation with Light about it. Like, I think it was clear what I was doing when I offered a hero solve for 5 payments of 99.99. It's worth contrasting why Python was so hostile to the idea. I don't like to argue with people about their own behavior, that's not productive. I like to ask the rest of the players about people's behavior.

I mean, it very much does not come across as a neutral question. "Why is Python so rattled, is a question I will pose to the audience." is almost like, the definition of a leading question actually. If Python is rattled, that obviously implies they are scum I think. Saying they are hostile to the idea is also something that, if true, I don't understand the town motivation you think is there. Personally, I just see it as a simple response that they don't want your hero solve because it was completely wrong last time, but if you think they're hostile to it or rattled, why not push it? i don't understand your approach here.

I'm either going to get a response of people agreeing with me or pushing back on me so I don't think the wording of the question or being neutral matters all that much in this instance. If someone thinks strongly that Python isn't rattled they might quote me and call me out on it.

I'm not sure if you're questioning my town motivation or Python's so I'll answer for me. Because this is how I play, I want people to react to things I say. One of the ways I do that is point something out and ask if anyone else is seeing it? You can ask the meta folk if that sort of thing appeals to you.

As to why I'm not pushing it you're not reading the thread since I had several posts of discussion about this very thing with Dann and Light. No, I didn't use the word rattle again, but I think I demonstrated how I was choosing to advance that thought process. Question the town motivation of that if you wish. If you're questioning why I didn't vote it's because I didn't feel like it.

[usesPython]

If there's a scum wagon going on right now then you're probably town for fixating on gob instead

What makes you think gob isn't the scum wagon?

Then that would still have you wagoning scum

[T-Bone]

As it turns out, not everyone was interested in this observation and we moved on.

[T-Bone]

I think I'm comfortable calling light ganski town

Should I post this in the main thread too or will that confirm Python's hero solve?

[Naerys]

fluffy pink balloon feels like LHF to me a bit

[T-Bone]

KK I lean town on Light