Open 901 - Normal Idea Mafia Redux - Postgame

[JacksonVirgo]

Why do you need to be sanity checked?

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh, I know what you're trying to insinuate

[JacksonVirgo]

Don't you feel that's heavily confbiased?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Yeah, which is why I'm asking to be sanity checked.

[JacksonVirgo]

Where do you think that feeling is coming from?

[JacksonVirgo]

My attention is loosely placed here, I can respond in shallow ways. Working on a project but will be done soon

[Jake The Wolfie]

Where do you think that feeling is coming from?

It's coming from the knowledge that I have been known to scumread the two of you, and so I would have bias in this exchange, which is why I asked to be sanity checked.

[JacksonVirgo]

I know why you asked to be sanity checked and I respect that a lot, I'm specifically asking if you know where the feeling is coming from in regards to the actual read you had. Is it just because we seem to be vibing AND you're scum-reading both of us or is there something more?

[JacksonVirgo]

As you framed it now it feels like it's all just an extension on the scum-read of us both so you're seeing a connection where there isn't

[JacksonVirgo]

Which is fine, I'll explain my TR on black soon

[Jake The Wolfie]

I know why you asked to be sanity checked and I respect that a lot, I'm specifically asking if you know where the feeling is coming from in regards to the actual read you had. Is it just because we seem to be vibing AND you're scum-reading both of us or is there something more?

When I was looking over her ISO, I couldn't help but notice that Black has mostly strayed close to you, with only a few conflicts if I recall.

Like, take the start of today. Black followed your vote, with no hesitation or second thought. It was only after it was revealed that any check that you made on Cakez would've inevitibly turn up red that she moved her vote onto someone else.

This is just one example, and I haven't read your ISO through to see if it holds up on your end, but it just feels fishy.

[JacksonVirgo]

I know why you asked to be sanity checked and I respect that a lot, I'm specifically asking if you know where the feeling is coming from in regards to the actual read you had. Is it just because we seem to be vibing AND you're scum-reading both of us or is there something more?

When I was looking over her ISO, I couldn't help but notice that Black has mostly strayed close to you, with only a few conflicts if I recall.

Like, take the start of today. Black followed your vote, with no hesitation or second thought. It was only after it was revealed that any check that you made on Cakez would've inevitibly turn up red that she moved her vote onto someone else.

This is just one example, and I haven't read your ISO through to see if it holds up on your end, but it just feels fishy.

It's possible they're trying to keep me pocketed, they know I'm good at wolf perhaps they consider me good at town as well as a natural extension. Especially given I've shown an ability to check someones alignment, it could be that I am not pinned but I just had my action blocked by a mafia JOAT with a single block attempt and I just goofed and checked a true ascetic and they're trying to dodge (or control) that as best as they can. Unsure, that second bit is just speculation

[JacksonVirgo]

Like, take the start of today. Black followed your vote, with no hesitation or second thought. It was only after it was revealed that any check that you made on Cakez would've inevitibly turn up red that she moved her vote onto someone else.

With all due respect, I think you're barking up the wrong tree. She was the one that called Cakez out initially and was the reason I saw Cakez day-play as bad as an additional reason to check them. It would be natural to do this regardless of alignment so it's NAI.

[JacksonVirgo]

I do think Black has a point when she said you were looking at her posts with "rose-tinted glasses"

[Jake The Wolfie]

I do understand how in isolation it has an innocent explanation, however what I'm proposing is that this is one part of a pattern of a behaviour that she has shown.

[JacksonVirgo]

I do understand how in isolation it has an innocent explanation, however what I'm proposing is that this is one part of a pattern of a behaviour that she has shown.

Can you quote a few posts where they've done this? Straying close to me specifically

[JacksonVirgo]

Or the pattern you're seeing

[Argonauts]

Where do you think that feeling is coming from?

It's coming from the knowledge that I have been known to scumread the two of you, and so I would have bias in this exchange, which is why I asked to be sanity checked.

You've been known to scumread Jackson and Black? You guys are being really confusing and probably partly because Jackson just uses whatever pronouns he feels like describing people with.

-Atalanta

[JacksonVirgo]

You've been known to scumread Jackson and Black? You guys are being really confusing and probably partly because Jackson just uses whatever pronouns he feels like describing people with.

Whoops

[JacksonVirgo]

Stream of consciousness be like brr

[JacksonVirgo]

I'll try and be more consistent

[Jake The Wolfie]

Spoiler: Sometimes I put quote walls in my quote walls. Not this time.

wya Black we need to talk peaceably

I'm at work brother

All the question does is help me understand her for future games. That's why I prefaced it with "Just curious."

What purpose would town!you genuinely have to ask that question. "Do you purposefully say specific things to avoid giving information". Even if you get a yes or a no, it's a useless answer. It feels like you weren't genuinely asking it, more so making a point about what they were saying (aka shading them) or you were asking a question for the sake of appearing to do something pro-town (busywork). You say you explained it but you barely did such a thing, you gave shallow and unprovable reasoning and pretending like it's foolproof? I don't actually care too much about the message itself, one argument is one argument it's not damning by any stretch of the imagination but the way you're acting is almost entitled

You put into words what I was pretty much thinking about Clap's question

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That makes sense, but the last part I don't really agree with. I think certain players feel the need to seem townie when they are town. If people find me as town then I feel like I'm doing something right and the PoE is reduced for the people that townread me, which helps them narrow in on the baddies

Sure I know some townies focus on their image but that isn't really taking from what I'm saying as I'm saying most wolves

do

focus on their image and therefore doing the opposite is townie. It shouldn't really matter if other townies can focus on their image, it doesn't detract from the logic it just matters about the wolves wanting to focus on their image.

Ok yeah I see what you're saying

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I'm the one that caught him, let me be the one to end him >:)

Be careful what you wish for.

To my townies: I'm still not sure on JV. If he's mafia then he's pretty brave for going so hard at the beginning. At the same time, the numbers point to his guilt.

I'm not sure why scum!JV would pull this gambit just to fade you

These were some of the ones I was looking at.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Where do you think that feeling is coming from?

It's coming from the knowledge that I have been known to scumread the two of you, and so I would have bias in this exchange, which is why I asked to be sanity checked.

You've been known to scumread Jackson and Black? You guys are being really confusing and probably partly because Jackson just uses whatever pronouns he feels like describing people with.

-Atalanta

Maybe not Jackson before today, but yes.

[JacksonVirgo]

Ima be straight, I got no idea what you're seeing in those posts

[Argonauts]

That answer only confuses me more. Are you talking about what's happened in THIS game? That isn't the expected use of the phrase. You sounded like you were talking about previous games.

-Atalanta