open 894: near vanilla (game over)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok seriously tho do you guys actually want me to reread the whole game or what

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[OutWorldER]

ok seriously tho do you guys actually want me to reread the whole game or what

uh I guess maybe you could read like, D1, D2, and then yesterday

the only days that really like, mattered I guess, because every other day was mostly autopiloting whoever Titus had jailed

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok what do you actually want my opinion on

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok seriously tho do you guys actually want me to reread the whole game or what

uh I guess maybe you could read like, D1, D2, and then yesterday

the only days that really like, mattered I guess, because every other day was mostly autopiloting whoever Titus had jailed

ok what would the point be

[tired person]

ok seriously tho do you guys actually want me to reread the whole game or what

not rly, but if you could read last day phase and the end of day 1 and give me your thoughts of who is scum that should be enough.

[tired person]

i think you implied that you think it's jupiter but i am not sure if the only reason is sheeping dannflor or something else also.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i think you implied that you think it's jupiter but i am not sure if the only reason is sheeping dannflor or something else also.

mostly dannflor and nka - like why does outworldER shoot dannflor if dannflor's last words to the thread are "never kill outworldER"

like the only reason would be to lock in reads and he's worried dannflor will 180 the read again AND he is also highly sure the rest of you are too demotivated to try to overturn thread consensus.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like maybe its to frame jupiter ? feels a very roundabout way to do it

[OutWorldER]

pooky do you think Bella would have a reason to kill dann

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

pooky do you think Bella would have a reason to kill dann

bruh i have her role pm its town

[OutWorldER]

okay so answer as if bella was scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i dont even understand the point of the question

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like if bella is mafia maybe she shoots dannflor because she is worried he will re-eval on her like he said he would at eod.

or maybe she believes you and shoots you tho i dunno if she would your act at eod looked kinda fake as f

or maybe she shoots doctor claimer dude.

i honestly dunno what she would do with a gun at that game state cuz i dont even know her that well.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

outworld I can't sort you in real time if you don't interact with me in real time

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like I get this game is a long ass slog that's been going on for *checks notes* 2 months and you all lost any willpower to play but since you've invested the better part of 2 months into the game let's get together and try to win it instead of mailing it in on a prayer

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

me rereading d1 and seeing that you guys actually eliminated Aisa/Skygazer and Jupiter/OutworldER are still alive rofl this town might deserve to lose

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

outworldER's posting straight up feels like openwolfing in D1

he pushes an exclusively town POE early - early townreads T3 on some stretchy ass logic - his questions to Black look like they are badly done distancing and not like he has any actual intent to sort her

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I have no clue why Dannflor would say to never kill this guy I've been through his iso three times and none of it screams definitely town to me

Dann why are you do me like this

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm going to VOTE: Kurtapika here to consolidate. I'm comfortable here or on shaddowez.

I absolutely hate this because voting solely to consolidate feels like he's pushing the blame for what happens if this wagon goes thru to "well it was just for consolidation!"

note here that this is fifth vote in this game state;

VOTE COUNT 1.6 !

Kurtapika (5): Titus, Dannflor, Bellaphant, Aisa, OutWorldER
shaddowez (2): JupiterXV, Black
Bellaphant (1): T3
T3 (1): Nono
Dannflor (1): Skygazer
JupiterXV (1): shaddowez
Skygazer (1): Kurtapika
Black (1): Afrayed Knott

not voting (1): ProjEctRy

with Dannflor/Titus both pushing Kurta at this point and being loud in thread about it.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Hi, I return. Apologies for the absence. Here's a wall of quotes I wanted to respond to while catching up

Spoiler: Quotes Wall

Not sure I agree with OutWorldER at 211 . In fact I don’t agree. Getting to the content I don’t agree that saying you would need a lot to switch reads is not town.

That wasn't the way he phrased it to me though. He said it would be a "pretty big swing to switch those reads right now" which reads to me like he's judging how jarring other townies would find his switch, not that he was dissatisfied with the evidence presented.

Right, in regards to catching up. I want to note in particular that OutWorldER's responses overall are giving me a strong tr on him, and as far as D1 reads go it's the most solid I currently have.
-SNIP-

Could you elaborate on why you're townreading me? If it's the strongest read you have, then I think you should be able to articulate it. Frankly, I myself aren't so sure what exactly I've done so far that exudes towniness.

I understand the scum reads on Jupiter

I think they have a posting style that is very stream of consciousness and somewhat performative and I tend to scum read that type of posting style a lot. But idk currently I feel that is more a sign of personality than a sign of alignment in this game

But like I *get* it

What, specifically, in Jupiter's posting allows you to make the distinction between alignment and personality?

Kurtapika > T3 > Black

these are dannflor approved wagons in about the order i feel comfortable wagoning them

What is your Black case, again? I'm not sure if I missed it while trying to read back up but I couldn't find where you give an exact reason for suspecting Black.

I'm kind of torn because I think Dann is a comfortable townread for me right now, but I also feel like Kurta's move onto Skygazer could be genuine, and the over-justification is simply a symptom of being in an unfamiliar meta. But even that said, they're a nullish read for me at best right now, voting low-content/low-activity slots is a very classic scum move to appear townie, and I'm general agreement with Dann here that the very diluted votes here and sheer amount of vanity votes is hurting Town's ability to read the game.

I'm going to VOTE: Kurtapika here to consolidate. I'm comfortable here or on shaddowez.

ok read what is in the spoilered quote box and tell me if you see something that doesnt make sense to you

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

btw if you slackers decide to afk all the way to the deadline again and then boohoo cant put votes together to yeet someone because everyone fell asleep im gonna be super annoyed i bothered to spend time on this shit

pick a time to be online so we can actually do this

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm ngl I havent even bothered to read Jupiter's iso but the way OutworldER has treated T3 in the first 600 posts of this game makes me feel like he is obviously mafia and I dont understand how he is still alive today

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

as someone who's played quite a bit with Scum!T3 I'll even make a prediction about what the conversation in the Scum PT looked like:


T3: Hi Guys, I'm kind of limbait as mafia and I expect to die early so just bus me or something ok?
Black: It's ok I will carry you because I'm the scumqueen and I will protect my subjects - let's instead try to townbin you into the townbloc.
OutworldER: haha great plan I'll townread you right away for "trying to start conversation"
Black: Cool i'll do it too
OuterworldER: Ok I'm gonna ask you a pointless question about it to "distance" and get our positioning to look good.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

T3 is probably town.

Curious to hear why you think so

Trying to jumpstart discussion in RVS, even if on a fairly reachy basis, feels fairly townie to me. In general I think scum are more likely to wait for other people to start pushing wagons rather than try to jumpstart one themselves. I also think the reachiness of it is actually +town since I feel like scum would probably be angling for a good first impression here.

^ this is such a reach to make about an early townread but the bonus kicker is this conversation between him and black 2 pages later;

I feel good about Aisa so far. It feels like she's engaging with people in a cooperative and amicable way and it feels like she's trying to genuinely figure them out

I like T3 here too. 15 feels like he's mocking bella considering his read in 26 which is kinda mean but not necessarily scum indicative. I like Project's read on T3 in 91 and I had similar thoughts when reading through, so I like Project so far as well

I agree with OWER's read on Jupiter in 86 and I like how inquisitive and engaged OWER feels

Nothing is really pinging me as scummy yet

Your T3 read feels odd here, as 91, a post you say you had similar thoughts to, voices suspicion on T3. You say you like T3, but your only point is early posts for which your only point is "not necessarily scum indicative". What has T3 done that is townie, in your opinion?

I don't think this question makes sense at all here