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Post Post #1300 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:41 pm

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In post 1296, davesaz wrote: No, we're not going to take any list that Python posted and just blindly run down it.
Kinda agree because I still think JV could be scum, although it doesn't take away from my point. If gob is town, he legit thought there was no way he could sway the vote to Gob. So what's your take on Python's post and switch to Black away from Gob?

Also: Gob didn't reach 5 votes in the VCs, but it might have happened in between that I'm not aware of. (Someone please double check.)
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Post Post #1301 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:41 pm

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In post 1297, Naerys wrote:
In post 1286, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1285, Naerys wrote: Ye i think we should keep limming in those python spew as those who would vote gob untill bye scum
What would your preferred lim order be in that list?
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Post Post #1302 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:42 pm

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Dann suspected her and dann is often right
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Post Post #1303 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:44 pm

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Post numbers are off by 1 and I can't figure out why my Python program is wrong. (yes, I'm a programmer and I use Python, it's quite the coincidence lol)

502 light_ganski vote gob 1 was Naerys 2
507 Doctor Drew vote gob 2 was Save The Dragons 0
518 davesaz vote gob 3
520 Black vote gob 4 was Naerys 1
524 Ranger vote gob 5 was Dannflor 1
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Post Post #1304 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:44 pm

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In post 1300, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 1296, davesaz wrote: No, we're not going to take any list that Python posted and just blindly run down it.
--snip--
If gob is town, he legit thought there was no way he could sway the vote to Gob. So what's your take on Python's post and switch to Black away from Gob?
--snip--
In post 1263, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 1260, JacksonVirgo wrote: Is it possible they exaggerated to act defeated/defeatist to try and gather sympathy?
Possibly. He listed my name as people who wouldn't go for gob despite not mentioning anything about it.
Was this just a shallow acknowledgement of what I said then? You seem >90% convinced you're right on what you just said.
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Post Post #1305 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:46 pm

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In post 1303, davesaz wrote: Post numbers are off by 1 and I can't figure out why my Python program is wrong. (yes, I'm a programmer and I use Python, it's quite the coincidence lol)
Man, the moment I started using python for actual app stuff it was over for my sanity. I'm never going back there. Are you making sure the first post (the OP) is post 0?
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Post Post #1306 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:47 pm

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It's a possibility. Dangerous to make conclusions. This game is hedging bets.
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Post Post #1307 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:50 pm

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I am fully convinced that whatever the reason is, Python believed he couldn't swing the vote to town!gob. I'll make that axiomatic assumption.
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Post Post #1308 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:50 pm

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The output had a bug, and the "was" numbers were off by 1.

502 light_ganski vote gob 1 was Naerys 3
507 Doctor Drew vote gob 2 was Save The Dragons 1
518 davesaz vote gob 3
520 Black vote gob 4 was Naerys 2
524 Ranger vote gob 5 was Dannflor 2

pedit, yeah starting at 0, technically (pagenum-1)*25
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Post Post #1309 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:51 pm

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In post 1306, humaneatingmonkey wrote: It's a possibility. Dangerous to make conclusions. This game is hedging bets.
Well I agree with you there
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Post Post #1310 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:54 pm

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What if Python tried to swing the vote to a buddy who they knew wouldn't have enough support to lim? Or for the distancing value?
I don't think that's likely, but when doing detective type work it's important to not prematurely rule out things.

(I've probably used wrong pronouns tonight, just caught myself there. Hard habit for a 60+ to change)
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Post Post #1311 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:55 pm

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In post 1310, davesaz wrote: What if Python tried to swing the vote to a buddy who they knew wouldn't have enough support to lim? Or for the distancing value?
I don't think that's likely, but when doing detective type work it's important to not prematurely rule out things.

(I've probably used wrong pronouns tonight, just caught myself there. Hard habit for a 60+ to change)
Who would that be in this circumstance, Black?
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Post Post #1312 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:56 pm

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Shaking my brain, I need to mentally reset. I'm too locked on Ganski to really analyse people for themselves
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Post Post #1313 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:57 pm

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Gonna give it a good rattle then get back to you all in the morning
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Post Post #1314 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:01 pm

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In post 1311, JacksonVirgo wrote: Who would that be in this circumstance, Black?
We've been talking about the who would/wouldn't vote for gob list.
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Post Post #1315 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:03 pm

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In post 1314, davesaz wrote:
In post 1311, JacksonVirgo wrote: Who would that be in this circumstance, Black?
We've been talking about the who would/wouldn't vote for gob list.
The point was that Python refused to wagon gob, may be delirium but how does gob fit what you're saying
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Post Post #1316 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:06 pm

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My light_ganski read dropped through the day btw. I noticed some things that didn't seem consistent or a good progression, but focus was elsewhere and with limited minutes didn't bother to post anything. This is partly a note to myself so that it's not lost in dreamland.
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Post Post #1317 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:08 pm

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In post 559, usesPython wrote: gob's a pretty meh wagon but dying is cringe so VOTE: gob
Here's where I thought Python could be trying to wiggle out by voting gob who was still unlikely to be limmed.
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Post Post #1318 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:41 pm

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In post 1290, davesaz wrote: I'm pretty sure both T-Bone and gob had been to 5 before usesPython became a real wagon.
The "who would vote for gob" might just be the people who had voted for gob to make it 5, gotta fix a bug in my program and check that again.
This is right, then. But does it really change anything?

Let's say gob is town. Python still thought they had no chance of convincing the no-go-on-gob list to hammer.

The defeatism is real because they still went for Black instead of gob where their ass is on the line.

Unless they thought their own wagon truly had no legs (which is unlikely, given their panic). Or they thought Black wagon was strong enough to push through vs Gob wagon.

This assumes gob is town, of course. I haven't decided on that.
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Post Post #1319 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:06 pm

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In post 1247, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 823, DragonEater70 wrote:
VC 1.15
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usesPython (4):
gob, Naerys, Dannflor, humaneatingmonkey
gob (3):
light_ganski, Black, Ranger
Dannflor (2):
usesPython, Doctor Drew
T-Bone (2):
davesaz, Save The Dragons
davesaz (1):
T-Bone
JacksonVirgo (1):
JacksonVirgo

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-01-29 17:40:53).

Mod notes:
In post 836, usesPython wrote: The saddest part about this day is we're probably dead here anyways cause the only viable CW is gob and that only gets to 6 votes with light/Black/Ranger/Python/Drew/Dave since gob/Naerys/Dann/HEM/STD/T-Bone/JV all townread gob
Why would Python say this? I didn't even townread gob.
Then JV and Python started the Black counterwagon - with daveas.
Why won't they just do gob - if scum? Is gob scum?
Why is Python so sad?

I need someone with triple-digit IQ to weigh in on this.
I think there's a very small chance that gob spent the entire day pushing python as a bussing/distancing thing but I think gob is probably just town

I would assume that python calculated who all would vote for me just like they did with gob

I'm not really sure who all even scumread me enough to vote for me but they were able to get Dave, Ranger, and StD on board. gob, Dann, and LG townread me at the time. I don't think Naerys was? Maybe python was hoping to get her specifically to switch off of them. With her, T-Bone, and Drew they might have had the numbers
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Post Post #1320 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:07 pm

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T-Bone's intent declaration felt weird. Let me find it to make sure I'm remembering correctly
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Post Post #1321 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:13 pm

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In post 924, Save The Dragons wrote: VOTE: black
In post 933, T-Bone wrote: Intent to hammer, I am hovering around this thread. (Yes I know no one is at e-1 yet)
StD's vote tied our wagons at 5 votes each and that's when T-Bone declares intent. It almost feels like the intent was made on me even though python and I were both at 5

Looking back on this I don't know why scum!StD would move back to python after this when my fade was absolutely possible. If there is scum on the wagon then it's probably dave
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Post Post #1322 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:18 pm

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I think the way Dave positioned around the EoD was pretty scummy. He tried to help make my wagon happened but ended up hammering for the town cred once it fell flat

I also think Ranger is probably just town here. I don't see scum pulling that gambit the way she did. It wouldn't be a very good play at all. I think it's more likely that she genuinely believed python was a Mason
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Post Post #1323 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:19 pm

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Anyway there's a few slots I need to look at closer so I'll be doing that in the morning
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #1324 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:24 pm

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In post 1319, Black wrote: I'm not really sure who all even scumread me enough to vote for me but they were able to get Dave, Ranger, and StD on board. gob, Dann, and LG townread me at the time. I don't think Naerys was? Maybe python was hoping to get her specifically to switch off of them. With her, T-Bone, and Drew they might have had the numbers
I just remembered Drew gave me the yellow M&M for "defending" gob so he was publicly suspicious of me. All python needed was for Naerys to switch over and that would have been it. I'm guessing that's what Jackson was trying to do
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